Hacking Arm9loaderhax vs Menuhax Coldboot Comparison

[funnystory]

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It is not master race because by using arm9hax you lose your ability to boot into sysnand without an SDcard. You give up crucial functionality for 10 seconds of boot time.

 

[Manuel9181]

The latest setup for Arm9loaderhax I did took 4 hours and used up 60GB of space on my computer for backups, as opposed to 5 minutes and 200MB for Menuhax. Menuhax is definitely more user-friendly and lower risk. I'd say it would be good enough for your everyday homebrew/CFW user.

To avoid all the troubles and time to backup my SD (80gb/128gb used), I've just used another SD of 4gb reinstalling rxtools on it. From the bigger one I've just backed up the sysNand.bin in order to re-inject it on my 3ds before to launch the arm9loaderhax.3dsx.

 

[NekoMichi]

It is not master race because by using arm9hax you lose your ability to boot into sysnand without an SDcard. You give up crucial functionality for 10 seconds of boot time.

Most people have an SD card inside their 3DS though, it wouldn't make sense for someone to set up a CFW without an SD card. Those who don't use SD cards are ones who prefer to keep their games on cartridges, and are unlikely to be CFW users anyway so they wouldn't have this problem in the first place. Hence the SD card problem is kind of paradoxical.

 

[endoverend]

My O3DS takes 11 seconds to boot A9LH into updated sysNAND (which has a whole host of advantages over emuNAND). So overall, it's pretty much the dream set up to have signature patches on your 3DS.

Now all we need is an actual CFW...

 

[Supster131]

Isn't it risky to use Sysnand as the main nand, even for A9LH.

cant it be blocked, if you installed an update that blocks it?

That's why AuReiNAND blocks FIRM0/FIRM1 when updating. Those are the partitions where A9LH is stored.

 

[NekoMichi]

That's why AuReiNAND blocks FIRM0/FIRM1 when updating. Those are the partitions where A9LH is stored.

So theoretically, we could safely install future updates without making any major changes to the setup, right?

 

[funnystory]

Most people have an SD card inside their 3DS though... Those who don't are ones who prefer to keep their games on cartridges, and are unlikely to be CFW users anyway so they wouldn't have this problem in the first place.

It's still an incomplete hack that is being marketed as if it was a dream CFW solution.Just because you personally don't see a problem with it,doesn't mean there isn't a problem with it.

 

[endoverend]

So theoretically, we could safely install future updates without making any major changes to the setup, right?

Yes, A9LH is basically unblockable.

 

[Just Passing By]

It is not master race because by using arm9hax you lose your ability to boot into sysnand without an SDcard. You give up crucial functionality for 10 seconds of boot time.

People always run back to the faster boot time, but there's more to it than that. I personally think being able to unbrick your console witbout a hardmod is the best thing about it. Sure if you somehow do screw up your console so bad that you need a hardmod, it won't work, but that's why the amazing (like legit amazing) developers test everything before releasing it to the public. Plus the 3ds scene is now moving towards A9LH and away from just homebrew and cfw. And later on it may be possible to load sysnand back without an sd card (this might be completely wrong). And I don't see how being able to load your 3ds without a sd card is a critical functionality if you have cfw since mostly everything you do with your system will be on emuNAND and not sysnand which you need a sd card to use.

 

[Supster131]

It's still an incomplete hack that is being marketed as if it was a dream CFW solution.Just because you personally don't see a problem with it,doesn't mean there isn't a problem with it.

It's currently being worked on. Then you'll have your "dream CFW solution".

 

[Lumince]

ok well since my N3DS XL boots into reinand in 9 seconds im not gonna do this... going to 2.1 scares me and Id rather not go throught the trouble of doing a hardmod. Waiting 9 seconds isnt that bad

 

[funnystory]

It's currently being worked on. Then you'll have your "dream CFW solution".

Once that happens I will gladly switch over to A9LH( I was going to switch before I knew sysnand didn't load without SD),I was just pointing out that to truly say something is "master race" it has to be unequivocally better.

 

[endoverend]

People always run back to the faster boot time, but there's more to it than that. I personally think being able to unbrick your console witbout a hardmod is the best thing about it. Sure if you somehow do screw up your console so bad that you need a hardmod, it won't work, but that's why the amazing (like legit amazing) developers test everything before releasing it to the public. Plus the 3ds scene is now moving towards A9LH and away from just homebrew and cfw. And later on it may be possible to load sysnand back without an sd card (this might be completely wrong). And I don't see how being able to load your 3ds without a sd card is a critical functionality if you have cfw since mostly everything you do with your system will be on emuNAND and not sysnand which you need a sd card to use.

You pretty much get the point perfectly. Sure, installing A9LH can cause a brick if you do something really dumb, but in the future if you do dumb things A9LH is better brick protection than any other option.

 

[NekoMichi]

It's still an incomplete hack that is being marketed as if it was a dream CFW solution.Just because you personally don't see a problem with it,doesn't mean there isn't a problem with it.

That's true, it's not a perfect solution. But it hasn't been marketed by the developers as an ideal setup either. I think mostly it's hype from users. It's important to highlight the risks and shortcomings too

ok well since my N3DS XL boots into reinand in 9 seconds im not gonna do this... going to 2.1 scares me and Id rather not go throught the trouble of doing a hardmod. Waiting 9 seconds isnt that bad

Yeah, A9LH would be useful to some people, but not everyone. If you have a good, stable setup already, it's probably better than risking a brick from the A9LH process. There's a cost-benefit scale here somewhere...

You pretty much get the point perfectly. Sure, installing A9LH can cause a brick if you do something really dumb, but in the future if you do dumb things A9LH is better brick protection than any other option.

Guess it comes down to choosing whether to spend some time researching and doing something tricky now to save yourself trouble in the future, or use a simple low-risk setup that's usually good enough everyday, but has risks or downsides in the long run.

 

[Supster131]

Once that happens I will gladly switch over to A9LH( I was going to switch before I knew sysnand didn't load without SD),I was just pointing out that to truly say something is "master race" it has to be unequivocally better.

Well, not like it really matters. Do you ever even use your 3DS without an SD card? You can't even run any hax without an SD card.

 

[funnystory]

That's true, it's not a perfect solution. But it hasn't been marketed by the developers as an ideal setup either. I think mostly it's hype from users. It's important to highlight the risks and shortcomings too

Yeah, A9LH would be useful to some people, but not everyone. If you have a good, stable setup already, it's probably better than risking a brick from the A9LH process. There's a cost-benefit scale here somewhere...

You are totally right,it is mostly users that claim it as the ultimate solution.I am pretty sure the devs said its a work in progress.

 

[Lumince]

That's true, it's not a perfect solution. But it hasn't been marketed by the developers as an ideal setup either. I think mostly it's hype from users. It's important to highlight the risks and shortcomings too

Yeah, A9LH would be useful to some people, but not everyone. If you have a good, stable setup already, it's probably better than risking a brick from the A9LH process. There's a cost-benefit scale here somewhere...

I know how to set this up but that chance of random bricks even with doing it correctly scares me. Like when people were all like "Don't downgrade with sysupdater yet" and people were messing up and blaming it. I don't want to end up like that xD. I already panicked with sysupdater when i said screw it and downgraded without any problems. But this makes me a little bit more panicky.

 

[funnystory]

Well, not like it really matters. Do you ever even use your 3DS without an SD card? You can't even run any hax without an SD card.

I dont use my 3ds period lol,I have an o3ds and an n3ds that I am returning because I don't play. I mainly picked the 3ds up for majoras mask(GREAT GAME) . I know you can't run the cfw without an SD but off principle I just want my console to gain functionality without losing functionality,specially when I am risking a brick.

 

[endoverend]

I know how to set this up but that chance of random bricks even with doing it correctly scares me. Like when people were all like "Don't downgrade with sysupdater yet" and people were messing up and blaming it. I don't want to end up like that xD. I already panicked with sysupdater when i said screw it and downgraded without any problems. But this makes me a little bit more panicky.

Random bricks? There is no possibility for a random brick, and not a single random brick has been reported by any user. The risk of doing this is exactly the same risk as downgrading.

 

[Lumince]

Random bricks? There is no possibility for a random brick, and not a single random brick has been reported by any user. The risk of doing this is exactly the same risk as downgrading.

You know what I mean. Not like me doing something wrong. but it messing up in the process.