3.4 and recent updates

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Nov 20, 2008

3.4 and recent updates by djdynamite123 at 12:52 PM (12,016 Views / 0 Likes) 115 replies

  1. djdynamite123
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    Nintendo released a recent update that once again tries to secure some existing bugs on the console, breaks some things, deletes others. This time they’ve also gone around and modified the TOS. As usual, mass panic ensues.

    The people who are panicking can be divided roughly into two groups (non exclusive):

    The pirates
    The clueless
    This should go without saying, but we don’t want to have anything to do with the former group. Nintendo is obviously going to fight piracy (and that’s going to hurt homebrew). We’ll have to deal with the homebrew part, but don’t expect that to help piracy in any way. It may, or it may not. And if it doesn’t, pirates will have to deal with fighting nintendo themselves. The usual messages about WADs, “backups”, and all that crap are going straight to /dev/null, and we’re seeing quite a few bans due to piracy on #wiidev recently. Don’t ask as about it, don’t talk to us about it.

    The clueless are panicking because, well, that’s the thing to do (OMG, new update! What will we do!). Read the Wiibrew page about the update. To clarify some things: the Twilight Hack is gone and probably won’t be coming back. There are other game exploits on the table (which haven’t been announced yet). Given the ability to run PPC code, we can install stuff and exploit IOS, as the HBC beta9 installer already shows. In short, homebrew isn’t going to go away. We can “do anything” right now. But we do need to figure out what to do.

    All we’re concerned with is the ability to run homebrew (from-scratch programs), not necessarily modify the existing system. This means that we’re not necessarily concerned with getting things like menuloader and DVDX working again. Menuloader involves hacking the system menu - which is pointless if it can be replaced. DVDX enables DVD use - which is pointless if there are other ways or you use an entirely new IOS. We’re also not big fans about installable stuff - the utopian homebrew ecosystem would be contained entirely on removable storage and involve zero changes to NAND (implausible, but hey). Either way, the ultimate goal is to have homebrew that is able to use the Wii’s features, period. How that is accomplished is irrelevant, so old methods of doing things aren’t necessarily going to work in the future, nor do we care about it (we’ll find alternatives if necessary).

    You may be wondering what it is that we’re doing anyway. Basically, we’re looking at the current situation, moving on with existing projects, and trying to figure out what the best course for the future will be. Quickly releasing hacks as soon as they’re available might not be such a good idea for the future - it’s best if we think it through a bit. We’ve also got tons of stuff to do. Prognosis is good, and hacks will come out eventually, but you’ll have to wait it out. And you shouldn’t expect anything in particular. Remember, it’s about the end result (homebrew), not about how we get there. Also, don’t take some ideas that we’ve thrown out there previously as definitive - we’re rethinking things right now.

    In short, calm the hell down and just wait. Don’t update if you don’t feel like “change” - you’ve got that option so far. And if you’ve updated, my suggestion is that you wait. Avoid hacky workarounds - they can be worse than the problems they purport to fix.
     


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    I'm sad for TP Hack.

    Hope that Twiizers will release (thay have already found XD) a new method soon. [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG] they said they were looking at other games to wak in there code, and obviously they have a few, must be the most common games i recon
     
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    because some people only use gbatemp! and you know there are many lazy gooses out there that wont SEARCH!
     
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    I completely agree with you, there's no point in panicking at all.
    I'm going to just lie back and enjoy my now-homebrew-enabled Wii until I run into any problems which would most probably be caused by an automatic update from a game or something. [​IMG]
     
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    I firmly stand by the statement that all problems always come from user-error.

    If you never turn on your wii, it'll never have any problems. :-D
     
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    Yeah, the fact that there are no decent games coming out until next year helps the wait a bit.
     
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    sonic and skate it! are both awesome

    luckily neither requires an update.
     
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    Got a question say for some reason i want to take everything off my wii and go back to the way i had it before i installed homebrew ans the Twilight what does one do....
     
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    Format it
     
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    if you format it will you loose games that you downloaded already?
     
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    remove it like you would any other time, uninstalling/deleting etc, why even worry about it, it doesn't disable hbc so your sorted... guess your paranoia is kicking in! [​IMG]
     
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    there's never any reason to format.
    formatting actually creates a permanent record of any "pirated" titles you have on your wii. (ironic?)
    don't format.
     
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    Just curious...so just deleting everything and doing the update whatever one is out will make the wii normal then correct....

    Just curious about it in case the time comes
     
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    Wouldn't say make the wii back to default "normal" but AS GOOD AS [​IMG]
     
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    Just worring about bricking thats all...so basically uninstall or delete everything and then install update and I am good to go back to NORMAL
     
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    I agree , lets all just relax and dont update people if ure on 3.3 or less. why panick , the great devs will eventually bring something to counter these updates.
     
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    This should go without saying, but we don’t want to have anything to do with the former group. Nintendo is obviously going to fight piracy (and that’s going to hurt homebrew). We’ll have to deal with the homebrew part, but don’t expect that to help piracy in any way. It may, or it may not. And if it doesn’t, pirates will have to deal with fighting nintendo themselves. The usual messages about WADs, “backups”, and all that crap are going straight to /dev/null, and we’re seeing quite a few bans due to piracy on #wiidev recently. Don’t ask as about it, don’t talk to us about it.


    You are preaching to the wrong crowd, buddy.

    GTFO.
     
  20. Livin in a box

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    When marcan says that 'we’re seeing quite a few bans due to piracy on #wiidev recently.', does he mean on the 'Wii Network Service' or on #wiidev? I've got 1 WAD file on my Wii Menu at the moment is Midnight Pool. I had more before I formatted. I had to format because of the dreaded big message brick.
     

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