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lol fuck i already spent 1000 dollars on this one

Framework laptop? They're basically apple but actually good. The Framework Laptop 12 is pretty sexy.

Surface as well has similar build quality and portability to apple. But also similar anti repair habits.

framework is a scam to me. i am not paying even 100 dollars for those specs

You're deluded then. I mean yeah, they ain't cheap and that's why I don't own one. But 100 bucks? You know that's not realistic. You're gonna pay a premium for Apple quality no matter where it comes from.

Honestly I don't think 2 kg for a modern mid range gaming laptop is too bad either, still portable enough and in my experience don't get too loud or hot unless you're actually gaming and you want the max settings and FPS. Gaming laptop power supplies are bricks, but you can just swap that for a modern GaN USB-C charger and you're good.

Laptops are in a pretty good place nowadays compared to where they were just a decade ago. Build quality generally isn't great though, you have to pay a premium for that.

Gaming laptop power supplies aren't that big nowadays to be fair. At least the ones I've had. I have a Zephyrus G14 and it's such a nice mix of portable and powerful, though you definitely pay through the nose for that form factor.

@Scarlet This laptop's PSU is half the weight of the laptop itself. That is significant enough to make it less portable, so when I'm away from home for a couple days I just bring a USB-C GaN charger along which charges my other devices as well. With all the other crap I bring (Switch 2 + controllers usually) it keeps the weight of my bag down just enough that it doesn't feel annoyingly heavy.

I can't run the GPU at max performance over USB-C because my laptop's not new enough to do 240W USB-PD. I mean, I can, but it would drain the battery not so slowly and maybe not be great for the battery in the long term. I'm not playing AAA games on my laptop when I'm away for just a couple days though, so it's worth the tradeoff.

It's fine enough for what I need. If I were bringing a Switch 2, I wouldn't generally feel the need to bring a gaming laptop. I've been quite liking the Geekom laptop I reviewed a bit ago as a portable non-gaming laptop. It's like 1kg, it's great.

1 kg is pretty nice but I wonder how much battery life they sacrificed to get it there. If you don't need gaming/high end productivity-grade specs then there is no shortage of slim and lightweight options on the market. A gaming laptop just ends up being the best all rounder for my use, I don't do a ton of PC gaming but some productivity stuff and heavy multitasking along with emulation.

It does fall short of the ARM laptop, but still hits 8+ hours of browsing, video watching etc. It's more than enough for me.

@The Real Jdbye Do you own a Framework? I’ve been considering getting one for a hot minute now

@The Real Jdbye im sorry, the price i said wasnt supposed to be concrete. But...i3? on the surface (no pun intended) that sounds pretty bad. Ram prices are also tragic. dont get me wrong. i DONT wanna buy another mac. i want a good deal, and especially a laptop that is good at being a laptop. Not a heavy burning mess, and the lighter it is the hotter usually.

unless of course it uses something like an arm chip

@The Catboy I wish. I'm not rich enough for that. Maybe next time.
@DesCube Yeah the Framework 12 isn't their most powerful offering by far but I mentioned it because I love the design and the different color options they're offering. Plus it's their most portable offering.
i3s these days are fine for most people honestly and they don't suck power. I'm not most people though.

In any case the Macbook Neo is probably the best deal you can find right now, not sure how they managed it with the current RAM pricing but somehow they did. I totally get not wanting a mac (I'm with you there) but waiting is probably the best option right now apart from that lol.

i have a mac mini. it was the best purchase i ever made, because i can run professional software, its very very fast, and windows update doesnt destroy it. But i could only afford this 1000 dollars cause of an inheritance.

also, i am also NOT most people. hundreds of browser tabs. every professional application you can imagine running in 1 workflow at once and they are all important so i cant close them