Homebrew Question Could you still connect to Jackbox servers if you are banned?

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If your console was banned, could you still connect to the Jackbox servers and play the Jackbox games. Same question about once online service becomes paid.
 

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I can't speak for if you could play if you were banned, but I can make an educated guess that all the Jackbox party packs will be playable even if you don't pay for Nintendo's online subscription service. The logic behind this being that this is the case on competing platforms, Xbox Gold is not required to play these games and neither is PS Plus.

I would like to venture a guess that you could even play these games if your system or account was banned, since being banned doesn't fully block your console from connecting to the Internet, just certain Nintendo services. And Jackbox Party Packs connect directly to Jackbox services, not Nintendo at all.
 

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You can't. Nintendo forces publishers to check the user's Nintendo Account before accessing any online service.

However, both of those games you mentioned won't require the subscription when it launches.
 

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please excuse me for being extremely skeptical. i understand you cant access nintendo services and it makes sense for them to force publishers to check the ban status.
but.. lolcatzuru saying nope without elaborating haves me think he didnt try thus doesnt know.
and i am still skeptical on whether jackbox would work.

if you paid for their game and got banned for some other reason, not being able to go online for jackbox means completely bought out from that game. something that does not seem legal. especially since people can get banned from doing things that are not illegal but nintendo just deems 'not desirable'.

anyone who actually got banned and can confirm the game does not work?
 

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You cannot connect to anything. It has to go through Nintendo's server validation first then it send you to whatever company's server you are trying to contact/use and tells said server that its a valid connection.

If you are banned, you're obviously not getting past the first step.

Doesn't matter if it requires an online sub or not. If you get banned, you have lost all online services that are routed through Nintendo's authentication, aka: all of them.
 

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Hmm. If it is just authentication via Nintendo's servers (as opposed to broadcast, matchmaking and more involved server duties/calculations like a lot of other games) and then passed off I would wonder if a ROM hack, maybe also a spoof of device ID (think https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/User-Agent rather than any unique switch serial sort of thing) if necessary, could make it work again.
 
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Hmm. If it is just authentication via Nintendo's servers (as opposed to broadcast, matchmaking and more involved server duties/calculations like a lot of other games) and then passed off I would wonder if a ROM hack, maybe also a spoof of device ID (think https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/User-Agent rather than any unique switch serial sort of thing) if necessary, could make it work again.

I heard that Jackbox games only require authentication on Nintendo's servers the first time you go online, and then afterwards the games connect directly to Jackbox. If so, Jackbox games would be playable after a ban as long as you have already played them online, or perhaps if you use a save file from someone who has already played online.
 

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I heard that Jackbox games only require authentication on Nintendo's servers the first time you go online, and then afterwards the games connect directly to Jackbox. If so, Jackbox games would be playable after a ban as long as you have already played them online, or perhaps if you use a save file from someone who has already played online.

thats not true - i have bought 2 jackbox games - played them with friends online with a legit console. after SX OS release i disabled all connections and played offline. one time i wanted to play with friends online - so i configured my switch to use wlan again and so on. im not banned at nintendo servers but you cant play jackbox if you have enabled stealth mode. so i disabled stealth mode and everything worked fine.

didnt got a ban since then - but i can confirm, that no connection to the game can made without nintendo servers.

so theres no way to play this game online on a banned console.
 

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I'm wondering though.... We were able to patch out the YouTube app to where it doesn't check Nintendo's servers and it will just directly connect to YouTube. You would think with games like fortnight, pso2, etc (games that don't require a paid Nintendo subscription) that it would be possible to patch it out. It seems plausible.
 
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I'm wondering though.... We were able to patch out the YouTube app to where it doesn't check Nintendo's servers and it will just directly connect to YouTube. You would think with games like fortnight, pso2, etc (games that don't require a paid Nintendo subscription) that it would be possible to patch it out. It seems plausible.
YouTube has the least amount of checks compared to all of the other third-party apps. Which makes sense since you don't need an account or subscription to use YouTube unlike those apps. What I'm trying to say is that YouTube doesn't care if you bypass their security as much as everything else.
 

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I'm wondering though.... We were able to patch out the YouTube app to where it doesn't check Nintendo's servers and it will just directly connect to YouTube. You would think with games like fortnight, pso2, etc (games that don't require a paid Nintendo subscription) that it would be possible to patch it out. It seems plausible.

YouTube doesn't get authentication from Nintendo, its a glorified webapplet.

These games are looking for authentication, signed, from Nintendo. You're not patching that out, they simply will reject any queries to their server without Nintendo's middle-man authentication. This is basic security on their end that assigns accounts/users to a known and traceable quantity for purposes of banning or moderation if need arises.

Otherwise, if they ever tried to ban you, you could just shift your ID. Not to mention, game like Fortnite are tied to your Nintendo Account+Fortnite Account when accessed on the Switch.
 
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Just for the sake of it, just installed JBP4. I'm super-banned, btw.
 

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