If I wanted to move to US this is what I'd need?

SuperDan · Aug 2, 2017

i move to usa 4.5 years ago from london .. you will need about 6 to 7 grand .. a reason to be here ( i got married here ) .. and you could not have picked a worse time to try ... immigration is a bitch these days .. every letter they send you will cost $500 to $600 to send back and reply ...

A Green Card which costs about a grand
Would need to remain 5 years in the country (kind of a moot point if one wouldn't want)
Go through an interview
Have medical reports
Review the documents properly and even with a lawyer
Pass the citizenship test

these are just the basic's but there is so much more ... even DR's and Professionals are being refused ... good luck it's a fucking nightmare

Kioku · Aug 2, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
Did some basic research and this is what I've learned.

A Green Card which costs about a grand

Would need to remain 5 years in the country (kind of a moot point if one wouldn't want)

Go through an interview

Have medical reports

Review the documents properly and even with a lawyer

Pass the citizenship test

Sources:
http://www.wikihow.com/Immigrate-Into-the-United-States-Permanently
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/immigrant-process.html

I personally have no problem paying the fees necessary but they definitely seem to have made it pretty complicated to apply for US citizenship whether to live or just for vacations. I'd love to visit Texas because it looks like such a wonderful and historic place, and among other states in US.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

If you want to visit? Cool. As a citizen, I can tell you there's really nothing worth staying for here.

Also, can we not bring political opinion into this? I've seen some of the views around here.. Some things are best left unsaid.

Deleted User · Aug 2, 2017

From all these country's you select USA. Ehh...

dAVID_ · Aug 2, 2017

The American Dream doesn't exist. It's a trick made by capitalists to lure inmigrants into bad jobs.

the_randomizer · Aug 2, 2017

Can people stop acting as though having a different POTUS would've been better? I.E. no POTUS would've made it better, no matter who wins, no matter what party is in charge of the government, no one would be placated, no one would've been perfectly happy. The opposite party/parties would be dissatisfied, it's just how it's always been since 1776, let's face it. And can we please stop insulting those who voted one way and instead direct your energy to other, bigger issues? That'd be great. If people want to move to the US, that's their prerogative. not ours.

Between Clinton and Trump, neither of them was fit to run as POTUS, the very fact we got the election down to those two clowns shows how desperate we Americans can be.

Aerocool · Aug 2, 2017

Bimmel said:
You're in the wrong corner my friend. :-P

Rheinland-Pfalz is where you wanna be. Mostly good weather here. ;-)

The Pfalz is beautiful and we have nice wine

But stay away from Ludwigshafen, not the safest place to visit...

linuxares · Aug 2, 2017

Abcdfv said:
IDK why anyone from a developed nation would want to move to the USA TBH.

Because... uhm.... hmm.... guns can be fun to shoot?

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Pacheko17 said:
Scandinavian shitholes are not better than the USA. Europe has never been better than the USA.

I can't hear you over our universal healthcare, friendliness, openborders and happiness! Plus our Prisons aren't as full as yours

bennyman123abc · Aug 2, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
Did some basic research and this is what I've learned.

A Green Card which costs about a grand

Would need to remain 5 years in the country (kind of a moot point if one wouldn't want)

Go through an interview

Have medical reports

Review the documents properly and even with a lawyer

Pass the citizenship test

Sources:
http://www.wikihow.com/Immigrate-Into-the-United-States-Permanently
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/immigrant-process.html

I personally have no problem paying the fees necessary but they definitely seem to have made it pretty complicated to apply for US citizenship whether to live or just for vacations. I'd love to visit Texas because it looks like such a wonderful and historic place, and among other states in US.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

If you'd like to live here, wait until Trump is out of office or N. Korea has nuked us. Whichever comes first!

Beerus · Aug 2, 2017

canada boi free health care and good stuff

the_randomizer · Aug 2, 2017

linuxares said:
Because... uhm.... hmm.... guns can be fun to shoot?

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I can't hear you over our universal healthcare, friendliness, openborders and happiness! Plus our Prisons aren't as full as yours

Yeah but your cost of living and taxes suck big time though

Free healthcare, education, etc all come at a cost, someone has to pay for it. The prison system, okay, you got us there, the prison system in the US is an effing joke.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...lt.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Sweden

linuxares · Aug 2, 2017

the_randomizer said:
Yeah but your cost of living and taxes suck big time though Free healthcare, education, etc all come at a cost, someone has to pay for it. The prison system, okay, you got us there, the prison system in the US is an effing joke.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...lt.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Sweden

That was an awful list.
Sure, our Taxes pay for a lot. So it makes a lot of people happy and healthy. The US system is built like a facist idiology, the strongest survive.

You guys pay a lot of insurances, hidden food taxes (ours include the tax right away), we got right to education (Where in Sweden it's actually illegal if you don't go to school) and hell of a better environment that ain't polluted with fear of each other.

bennyman123abc · Aug 2, 2017

linuxares said:
That was an awful list.
Sure, our Taxes pay for a lot. So it makes a lot of people happy and healthy. The US system is built like a facist idiology, the strongest survive.

You guys pay a lot of insurances, hidden food taxes (ours include the tax right away), we got right to education (Where in Sweden it's actually illegal if you don't go to school) and hell of a better environment that ain't polluted with fear of each other.

Eh. I'll give you it's illegal to not go to school here too! That's about it though. And our public education system is absolute shit...

the_randomizer · Aug 2, 2017

linuxares said:
That was an awful list.
Sure, our Taxes pay for a lot. So it makes a lot of people happy and healthy. The US system is built like a facist idiology, the strongest survive.

You guys pay a lot of insurances, hidden food taxes (ours include the tax right away), we got right to education (Where in Sweden it's actually illegal if you don't go to school) and hell of a better environment that ain't polluted with fear of each other.

And I totally have the means to move out of the US from having low funds being underemployed and in debt, right? If you're going to bash the US, at least bash the government, not the people, I don't like it. I don't have any control of being able to move out or not. We're not perfect, no one is, so please try to keep that in mind. There's no denying there's a huge cost of living difference in Scandinavia compared to the US. Free this, and free that, aren't truly free, because someone has to pay for it.

linuxares · Aug 2, 2017

bennyman123abc said:
Eh. I'll give you it's illegal to not go to school here too! That's about it though. And our public education system is absolute shit...

Ours (Sweden) have declined. But the Finns got a really damn good one!

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the_randomizer said:
And I totally have the means to move out of the US from having low funds being underemployed and in debt, right? If you're going to bash the US, at least bash the government, not the people, I don't like it. I don't have any control of being able to move out or not. We're not perfect, no one is, so please try to keep that in mind. Thank you. There's no denying there's a huge cost of living difference in Scandinavia compared to the US. Anyways.

I will bash the people and the goverment, because it's your duty to vote in the right people. Then again the democracy system over there is really, really strange.

bennyman123abc · Aug 2, 2017

linuxares said:
Ours (Sweden) have declined. But the Finns got a really damn good one!

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I will bash the people and the goverment, because it's your duty to vote in the right people. Then again the democracy system over there is really, really strange.

I feel I have the right to bitch about the country leader here as he hasn't given me the right to vote to change who the next leader will be.

the_randomizer · Aug 2, 2017

linuxares said:
Ours (Sweden) have declined. But the Finns got a really damn good one!

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I will bash the people and the goverment, because it's your duty to vote in the right people. Then again the democracy system over there is really, really strange.

It's so nice to be loved by other people from other countries, remind me to do the same for other people in other countries as well. It's only fair and my right to bash others for the people they vote too. Sound good? Good.

More anti-American bullshit, I love it, keep it coming.

Pacheko17 · Aug 2, 2017

linuxares said:
Because... uhm.... hmm.... guns can be fun to shoot?

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I can't hear you over our universal healthcare, friendliness, openborders and happiness! Plus our Prisons aren't as full as yours

I can't hear you over with your socialism bullshit.
Your country is collapsing, you've became a bunch of pussies. If Sweden keeps going like this, there will be no Sweden.

Nothing is free too, you're still paying for all that bullshit. Private is better than public.

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linuxares said:
Ours (Sweden) have declined. But the Finns got a really damn good one!

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I will bash the people and the goverment, because it's your duty to vote in the right people. Then again the democracy system over there is really, really strange.

They did vote the right people. Unlike you.

Saiyan Lusitano · Aug 2, 2017

the_randomizer said:
If he wants to visit, who are we to tell him otherwise? No country is perfect and all governments are run by power hungry douchebag politicians, there, problem solved.

Edit: Also, there hasn't been a single perfect or angelic POTUS either, never has and never will be one.

The US is definitely far better than the crisis Western Europe is facing right now and it won't take long before things take a turn for the worse.

Quantumcat said:
This!!!!

I would not move there if was paid $200,000 to do so. I don't want to get shot or end up with a massive medical bill that bankrupts me. Holidays, with plenty of travel insurance, sure. I enjoyed my two visits. But to live.....?

@Saiyan Lusitano where do you live currently? If it is somewhere with civil wars etc I can understand wanting to get out. But maybe consider somewhere else. For example what about a Scandinavian country (always ranked in the top of world happiness and life satisfaction rankings), or Australia, or maybe Japan or Canada or the UK? If you live in South America I can understand wanting to go to the US because it's sort of the closest thing you think of. But once you emigrate, 2,000km is kind of the same as 20,000km so it's worth considering everything.

TotalInsanity4 said:
It's not that living in the US is bad, it's just that there are better places that should be considered first

It's no secret that I live in UK and the rest I want to move is because UK nor Europe are safe anymore. In UK someone can just throw acid in your face while you're walking down the road, stabs you, runs you over or whatever weird shit.

I used to love UK as it used to be a great European country but honest to god, that time is long gone.

Honestly, it's really chicken of me to leave Europe if I can while the rest will keep on suffering. This will just end up on multiple civil wars.

Maz7006 said:
1. Assuming that you are from Portugal as indicated by your flag you do qualify to enter the United States under something called the ESTA as part of the Visa Waiver program

See here: http://www.esta.us/portugal-esta.html

Yes, I know you have your mind set on moving but it isn't as simple as you just stated. The ESTA will allow you 3 months in the states for leisure and business purposes; you cannot work is basically it's biggest legal implication. It will give you an idea about the states though; a really good way to experience the country firstly.

2. Getting a green card isn't a simple or quick process it may take years. You need some sort of entry point into the states. Basically many people enter the states under different types of Visas prior to even starting to have a green card.

3. Familiarize yourself with https://egov.uscis.gov this is like your holy book to all this stuff and if push comes to shove it wouldn't be a bad idea to hire a lawyer to help in the process.

I spent 5 months in Texas; it's alright, Austin and San Antonio were great, Houston if you like a big metropolitan city, and that's about it really.

I really liked the United States and definitely look forward to some kind of future there.

Thank you for this piece of information. I'm currently not in Portugal though I am native Portugal and plan on moving back, sooner rather than later.

The tidbit about taking years is something that concerns me although with patience and plan in mind it'll allow to make time and plan it ahead so I suppose it's not all that bad.

2A isn't something that Europe really has it per say but there are other means of protection (bb guns, bullet proof vests, etc), albeit not as effective.

Lilith Valentine said:
The US is currently on fire, come back later.

Compared to Europe the US is in a far better condition and citizens have the amendments in their rights.

the_randomizer · Aug 2, 2017

Saiyan Lusitano said:
The US is definitely far better than the crisis Western Europe is facing right now and it won't take long before things take a turn for the worse.

It's no secret that I live in UK and the rest I want to move is because UK nor Europe are safe anymore. In UK someone can just throw acid in your face while you're walking down the road, stabs you, runs you over or whatever weird shit.

I used to love UK as it used to be a great European country but honest to god, that time is long gone.

Honestly, it's really chicken of me to leave Europe if I can while the rest will keep on suffering. This will just end up on multiple civil wars.

Thank you for this piece of information. I'm currently not in Portugal though I am native Portugal and plan on moving back, sooner rather than later.

The tidbit about taking years is something that concerns me although with patience and plan in mind it'll allow to make time and plan it ahead so I suppose it's not all that bad.

2A isn't something that Europe really has it per say but there are other means of protection (bb guns, bullet proof vests, etc), albeit not as effective.

Compared to Europe the US is in a far better condition and citizens have the amendments in their rights.

Well Linuxares seems to disagree; I'm not trying to say our country is perfect, no country is or ever will be. All governments want is power to themselves, not power to the people, many politicians are corrupt and selfish. But I'll be damned if some butthurt punk wants to bash a country's citizens based off of their government or decisions. Sometimes we don't always have a say in who to elect for, so if people don't like what the US does, so fucking what?

Joe88 · Aug 2, 2017

I like how over 3/4 of the posts here are either people who don't even live in the USA but find the need to bash it or liberals still crying that trump won the election...
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