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Anybody got any feedback on how the converter (version 15) has worked for you??? Do you have any songs you want to test? do let me know so we can crack this together.
 
Neobeo said:
Here's my take on a bbp2midi converter while I upgrade degausser to v3.0:
https://adib.fourplusfive.com/bbp2midi/v1.0/

It's compatible with the BBP soundfont2 a few posts earlier. And can also load bdx files.
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Oh, Cool!!

Thank you!!!

Let me ask you a question, did you have a chance to check the converter I uploaded? by chance, do you find it at least decent? does it work differently than the one you uploaded?

I ask all of this because, as you may have read, I am not a programmer and used AI to help me iterate the versions. At this point, I honestly do not know whether I should continue iterating or just wait for people like you (that most likely actually know what they are doing) to improve on it.

BTW, if you are the person that created degausser, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I was able to load some new (bbp) songs into my copy of Daigasso.

Thank you (and everyone) for the amazing work.
 
Thinkrs said:
Oh, Cool!!

Thank you!!!

Let me ask you a question, did you have a chance to check the converter I uploaded? by chance, do you find it at least decent? does it work differently than the one you uploaded?

I ask all of this because, as you may have read, I am not a programmer and used AI to help me iterate the versions. At this point, I honestly do not know whether I should continue iterating or just wait for people like you (that most likely actually know what they are doing) to improve on it.

BTW, if you are the person that created degausser, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I was able to load some new (bbp) songs into my copy of Daigasso.

Thank you (and everyone) for the amazing work.
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Hi, yes I'm the creator of Degausser (from the old DX Degausser to the more modern Degausser for bbp, and also degausser3ds), though I've been away from the scene for a while, so it's exciting to see things are still happening.

I did have a look at the converter, it's certainly a step up from the original bbp2midi.py which crashes on a lot of stuff. But fundamentally I don't think either the piano chords or the guitar chords are right. And there's no way for the AI to independently rediscover this either since it's really just reverse engineering my Degausser work which already didn't play these correctly.

Roughly speaking, there are two flavours of piano chords (1. generate from root+accidental+stuff, 2. four literal notes), and yours gets it wrong on both counts. So the piano chords is basically random noise.

And there are three flavours of guitar chords (1. generate from root+stuff, 2. six literal notes, 3. bdx migrated), Your AI-improvement gets the third one right, and about half of the "six literal notes" version. So you can actually get decent guitar behaviour. Though it still treats consecutive strums as a legato, and also ignores strumming a subset of strings etc.

The other thing which doesn't behave the same as volume control, and I'm not convinced I have the right formula either. Because there's the master volume, per-instrument volume, per-track volume changes, per-note intensity changes etc., and they combine in mysterious ways. I've made my best guesses which sounds reasonable, but not 100%.

But keep it up anyway! It's exciting to see what AI (even at the free tier) is able to achieve. Maybe even feed my website back into it and see whether it thinks my version is better, could be a fun experiment.
 
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Hi, yes I'm the creator of Degausser (from the old DX Degausser to the more modern Degausser for bbp, and also degausser3ds), though I've been away from the scene for a while, so it's exciting to see things are still happening.

I did have a look at the converter, it's certainly a step up from the original bbp2midi.py which crashes on a lot of stuff. But fundamentally I don't think either the piano chords or the guitar chords are right. And there's no way for the AI to independently rediscover this either since it's really just reverse engineering my Degausser work which already didn't play these correctly.

Roughly speaking, there are two flavours of piano chords (1. generate from root+accidental+stuff, 2. four literal notes), and yours gets it wrong on both counts. So the piano chords is basically random noise.

And there are three flavours of guitar chords (1. generate from root+stuff, 2. six literal notes, 3. bdx migrated), Your AI-improvement gets the third one right, and about half of the "six literal notes" version. So you can actually get decent guitar behaviour. Though it still treats consecutive strums as a legato, and also ignores strumming a subset of strings etc.

The other thing which doesn't behave the same as volume control, and I'm not convinced I have the right formula either. Because there's the master volume, per-instrument volume, per-track volume changes, per-note intensity changes etc., and they combine in mysterious ways. I've made my best guesses which sounds reasonable, but not 100%.

But keep it up anyway! It's exciting to see what AI (even at the free tier) is able to achieve. Maybe even feed my website back into it and see whether it thinks my version is better, could be a fun experiment.
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It is an honor!

Then, please find attached a report. I asked the AI to create a document to report on the findings "we have had" since I started iterating with it. I asked for the report to be technical enough as I thought that might come in handy for you, since you do know what you are doing and I do not.

Let me know if this helps in any way.
 

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Hi all, for anyone still wanting to play Band Brothers P online after the shutdown, I made a Luma3DS fork that forwards the game's local wireless ("Play with nearby people") over the internet:

https://github.com/suke0930/Luma3DS-BBP-Online

You just drop the boot.firm onto your SD card and turn on BBP Online in the Rosalina menu. It connects to a default public relay server, or you can share a 4-digit PIN for private sessions.
(Requires the retail game + update 2.1)
Hope this helps anyone looking to jam!

Since the public server uses the OCI (Oracle Cloud) Osaka Region (Japan), it may be a bit slow when accessed from overseas.
I will release the source code for the relay server soon, after adjusting the quality.
also working on a rendering fix and multiplayer support for the Azahar emulator...
using AI


We have confirmed that it works on the Japanese versions of the old3ds and new3ds.
we only have two debuggers lol so , it would be a huge help if anyone could test-play multiplay session.
 
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