Tutorial  Updated

PS5 Exploit Guide

PS5 Hack Status:


FW Ranges:
2.XX = KEX+HV: PS4/5 backups, possible keys exploit (WK: 2.50 best / 2.7X max)
3.XX = KEX+HV+Linux: PS4/5 backups, possible keys exploit (WK/BD/LUA: 3.20 best / 3.21 max)
4.XX = KEX+HV+Linux: PS4/5 backups (WK/BD/LUA (Y2/NF/YARPE 4.03+): 4.50 best / 4.51 max)
5.XX = KEX+HV+Linux: PS4/5 backups (
WK/BD/Y2/NF/LUA/YARPE: 5.50 best + max)

6.XX = KEX: PS4/5 backups (KEX+HV+Linux: 6.02 max) (WK/BD/Y2/NF/LUA/YARPE: 6.02 for Linux / 6.50 max)
7.XX = KEX: PS4/5 backups (KEX+HV+Linux: 7.61) (
WK/BD/Y2/NF/LUA/YARPE: 7.61 best + max)
8.XX-10.00 = KEX: PS4/5 backups, no HV (WK/BD/Y2/NF/LUA/YARPE)
10.01-12.70 = KEX: PS4/5 backups, no HV (
WK/BD/Y2/NF/LUA/YARPE)
13.XX = HV+KEX+WK SOON! (WK/BD (13.42)/Y2/LUA/YARPE)
14.XX = No KEX/UL only (LUA/YARPE)


NOTE 1: Recommended firmware is subjective. Staying low is always recommended.
NOTE 2: Do not update too many major versions (e.g., 4.xx to 5.xx or 7.xx to 8.xx). Remain low unless all you want is backups.
NOTE 3: Do not update past 12.00. P2JB can take over an hour to exploit on FW up to 12.70.


Hypervisor (HV):
Highest released HV: 7.61
Highest unreleased HV: 13.60 (SlopVisor)
*unreleased/unimplemented


Kernel (KEX):
Highest released KEX:
12.70 (P2JB)
Highest unreleased KEX: 13.60 (SlopSploit SOON)
UMTX2:
1.00-7.61 (*WK to 5.50 / BDJB to 7.61)
Lapse: 1.00-10.01
Poopsploit: 4.03-12.00 (*BD to 12.00)
P2JB: 9.00-12.70 (*WK: Lapse to 10.01 / P2JB to 12.70)

Userland (UL):
LUA (Artemis): 2.00-LATEST (LUA exploit, + Lapse up to 10.01)
Y2JB: 4.03-13.40 (YouTube exploit, + Lapse: 10.01 / P2JB: 12.70)
NFNH: 4.03-12.XX (Netflix exploit, + Lapse: 10.01)
YARPE: 4.03-12.XX (Ren'Py exploit, + Lapse: 10.01 / P2JB: 12.70)
BD-JB: 1.00-13.42 (BD exploit + UMTX2: 7.61 / BD-JB5 + Poops to 12.00)
Webkit: 1.00-5.50 (PSFREE +UMTX2: 5.50 / SlopKit 7.00-13.60 (P2JB: 12.70) / (Slopsploit: 13.60)
Mast1C0re: 1.00-7.61 (Depreciated for LuaC0re)
LuaC0re: 1.00-12.70 (Poops: 4.03-12.00/P2JB: 9.00-12.70)
REDIS: 1.00-5.50 (Jordy's untethered JB on boot - coming soon)

NOTE 1: A userland entry point (UL) chained to kernel exploit (KEX) is required to exploit your console.
NOTE 2: Digital consoles can now use Y2JB+Poops (4.03-12.00) / Y2JB+P2JB (9.00-12.70).
NOTE 3: All consoles will be able to use SlopKit (webkit), SplopSploit (KEX) and SlopVisor (HV) for firmwares up to 13.60 SOON.


Useful Applications:
FPKG: 3.00-12.70 / 13.60 SOON
Kstuff Lite: 3.00-12.70
HERE
Kstuff Toggle: 3.00-12.00 HERE
PS5 App Dumper: 3.00-12.00 HERE
Dump Runner: 3.00-12.00 HERE
Dump Installer: 3.00-12.00 HERE
Backporting: Possible (backpork / Porkfolio)
PS4/PS5 DLC: Work with Kstuff Lite
Trophies: Work with Kstuff Lite
Compression: Works with Kstuff Lite
Homebrew Enabler: etaHEN (3.00-10.01) latest HERE
PS5 Backup manager: ItemzFlow Compatibility list: HERE
PS4 Backup Loading: Works (rest mode & backports work, can crash).
PS5 Debug NG: 3.XX-13.XX
HERE
PS5 Remote Play: Works HERE & HERE
PS5 Trainers/Cheats: Work

UART:
HERE
Linux: (OG: 3.00-7.61, Slim: 7.61) HERE
Kldload (wip): 3.00-6.50 HERE
Full chain exploit: 1.00-4.51 (byepervisor) HERE (also built into etaHEN up to 2.7X)
PSN access: NEVER
Latest OFW: 14.00 (16/9/26)
Summarised OFW/Model guide: HERE
1.XX-7.61 compatibility list:
HERE
PS5 SDK Repo: HERE
Legit PKG Updates: HERE or HERE
OFW Updates: HERE (history HERE)

Preparing Your Console:


It is recommended to either self-host offline or block these addresses in your router to avoid accidental updates or getting an update nag. Using the DNS method is no longer failsafe, as these are not guaranteed to be running 24/7.


dau01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dbr01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dcn01.ps5.update.playstation.net
deu01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dhk01.ps5.update.playstation.net
djp01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dkr01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dmx01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dru01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dsa01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dtw01.ps5.update.playstation.net
duk01.ps5.update.playstation.net
dus01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fau01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fbr01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fcn01.ps5.update.playstation.net
feu01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fhk01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fjp01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fkr01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fmx01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fru01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fsa01.ps5.update.playstation.net
ftw01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fuk01.ps5.update.playstation.net
fus01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hau01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hbr01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hcn01.ps5.update.playstation.net
heu01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hhk01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hjp01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hkr01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hmx01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hru01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hsa01.ps5.update.playstation.net
htw01.ps5.update.playstation.net
huk01.ps5.update.playstation.net
hus01.ps5.update.playstation.net
sgst.prod.dl.playstation.net
gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net

Alternative DNS IP:
62.210.38.117 - User Guide = ES7in1
or
45.56.67.85
(Leave DNS 2 blank)

To determine your OFW version:
Go to settings > system > console information.

Version string info:
Year.Half (1st/2nd half of the year)-Major Version No.Minor Version No.Extended info-Further Info.Retail/Debug

21.02-04.03.00.00-00.00.00.0.1

It is recommended to keep your console as low as possible to have access to better jailbreak stability and features. Stay as low as possible within the "Golden" firmware brackets that apply to your current firmware, see the top of this page.

(No jailbreak is ever guaranteed. No developer is obliged to release anything publicly)

WARNING:

Only update OFW manually via USB by getting the firmware file from HERE and installing from <USB>:/PS5/UPDATE/PS5UPDATE.PUP
(Updating with RECOVERY PUP will perform a factory format and will wipe your internal HDD)

PS5 factory mode PUP installation path:
/usb/PROSPERO/UPDATE/PROSPEROUPDATE.PUP

NOTE: Make a system back up before attempting any modifications.
On console: go to [Settings] > [System] > [System Software] > [Back Up and Restore] > [Back Up Your PS5]

Select Your Jailbreak:


WEBKIT:BD-JB:LUA:Y2JB:NFNH:YARPE:LuaC0re:BD-UN-JB:


  1. Information:
    Firmware 1.00-5.50 or 7.00-12.70 is required for the webkit exploit.

    Enabling web browser:
    Open [Settings] > select [Users & Accounts] > select [YouTube] > click "Link" > click "use browser" > click "terms" (bottom right) > click google apps icon (top right) > select Google Search.

    Exploiting 1.00-5.50:
    Enter https://zecoxao.github.io/luasauce/ or https://github.com/kmeps4/PSFree into google > click “Jailbreak" or wait for it to complete.

    Exploiting 7.00-8.60:

    https://soniciso1.github.io/pooP2JB/

    Exploiting 7.00-12.00:

    https://jordyidk.github.io/slopkit/

    https://zecoxao.github.io/slopkit2/

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].

  2. Important:
    You will need a BD dive paired to your Slim/Pro console or an OG Phat model . Consoles must be on 1.00-13.42 to run this exploit.


    Recommended ISO: Viktorious AIO Auto BD-JB ISO for 4.XX-7.61

    Exploiting:
    1, Burn ISO to a blank BD-R or BD-RE > Insert into console > click on the [DISC PLAYER] icon.

    2, Highlight [PIPELINE RUNNER] > click option 2 [Normaljailbreak-etaHEN-UMTX1.pipe] to auto load etaHEN ready for ItemzFlow.

    ELF Loader uses PS5 IP: port 9021 / BIN loader uses 9020 / Jar loader uses port 9025

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].

  3. Important:
    LUA entry point works from 2.00 to the latest OFW, but there is no KEX above 12.70 yet.
    (A compatible PS4 game is required to launch the exploit on PS5. See below)

    Your PS5 console must be activated to use save copying for PS4 games.
    1. Insert your game disc and, as soon as possible, make a save file within it.
    2. Copy the save files to USB, go to [SETTINGS] > [STORAGE] > [CONSOLE STORAGE] > [SAVE DATA] > [PS4 GAMES] > select the game save and copy to a USB drive.
    3. On PC, using a Google Drive account, make a new folder with the GAME ID of your game, and upload the savedata & savedata.bin files to that folder.
    4. Share the folder, set it to editor mode, share with anyone, and click "copy the link".
    5. Join the HTOS Discord group: HERE type "/decrypt", select "FALSE" for including SCE_SYS, paste or type in the Google Drive link, and press enter. The bot should begin mounting your save. (If it doesn't, paste in the link again.)
    6. Click "ENCRYPTED" to remove the Sony PFS layer. Download the generated files and extract the folder to your desktop (you should have 4 files in there and be named dec_savedata_CUSA[GAME ID]).
    7. Using REMOTE LUA LOADER, open the savedata folder, copy the 20 files within into your encrypted save folder on your desktop.
    8. Upload the encrypted save folder (now with 24 files in) to your Google Drive. It should be named "dec_savedata_CUSA[GAME ID]" where GAME ID is your games 5 digit number, and set it to editor mode, share with anyone, and then click "copy the link".
    9. Go back to the HTOS discord server, and type "/encrypt", hit "FALSE" for uploading individually, and "FALSE" to include SCE_SYS. Finally, hit shared_gd_link and paste in your link to the original save (4 files) folder. (If it doesn't, paste in the link again.)
    10. When this is done, paste the link to the decrypted save (24 files) folder, and the bot will encrypt the files.
    11. Resign the files by typing "/resign" followed by your account name on the console, or PSN ID associated with that account if using the latest OFW.
    12. Download the resigned files, extract the files to your USB drive and overwrite them into the savedata folder on your USB or external drive.
    13. Copy the saves back to your console [SETTINGS] > [SAVE DATA AND GAME/APP SETTINGS] > [SAVE DATA PS4] > [COPY OR DELETE FROM USB] > [COPY TO CONSOLE STORAGE] > select your game save folder from the USB drive and copy/overwrite old save data.
    14. Load LUA game again, and you should see the LUA LOADER screen.
    15. You can use "SEND_LUA.PY" to send the UMTX files to the loader.
    (NOTE: Some games require manual loading of save game)

    On firmware up to 7.61, you can now load UMTX/2 followed by etaHEN by sending the files to your console IP on PORT 9026.
    On firmware 8.00-LATEST, you can connect with the REMOTE LUA LOADER APP to send debug notifications or FTP on port 1337.

    LUA Loader: HERE or HERE

    Auto LUA Loader Fork: HERE

    Compatible LUA games:
    Aerial Life (CUSA17122)
    Aibeya (CUSA17068)
    Aikagi 2 (CUSA19556)
    Aikagi Kimi to Issho ni Pack (CUSA16229)
    Aikano Yukizora no Triangle (CUSA19370)
    Boku to Nurse no Kenshuu Nisshi (CUSA12049)
    Boku to Joi no Shinsatsu Nisshi (CUSA18107)
    Fuyu Kiss (CUSA29745)
    Hamidashi Creative (CUSA27389)
    Hamidashi Creative Demo (CUSA27390 requires the latest OFW to download from PSN)
    Haruoto Alice (CUSA14324)
    IxSHE Tell (CUSA17112)
    IxSHE Tell Demo (CUSA17126)
    Jinki Resurrection (CUSA25179)
    Jinki Resurrection Demo (CUSA25180 requires the latest OFW to download from PSN)
    Maid-san no Iru Kurashi (CUSA18106)
    Nora Princess and Stray Cat Heart HD (CUSA13303: Rename save9999.dat into nora_01.dat)
    Nora Princess and Strat Cat Heart 2 (CUSA13586)
    Raspberry Cube (CUSA16074)
    Winter Guest (CUSA11977)

    WARNING: using demos is free but can become corrupt, and you cannot upgrade your internal HDD either. If you lose the demo you can no longer use the exploit. Disc recommended.

    Incompatible LUA games:

    Dokyusei Remake Csver (CUSA47117)
    Dōkyūsei: Bangin' Summer - Home Edition Demo (CUSA47132)
    Kiss Trilogy (CUSA19341)
    Love Clear Demo (CUSA18109)
    Mikagami Sumika no Seifuku Katsudou (CUSA11481)
    Sen no Hatou, Arazone no Hime (CUSA09647)
    Tonari ni Kanojo no Iru Shiawase: Two Farce (CUSA09825)
    Tonari ni Kanojo no Iru Shiawase Summer Surprise (CUSA18998)

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].

  4. Requirements:
    PS5 console must be on 4.30-12.70 and previously activated through PSN or fake activated to use the YouTube app, unless you're restoring a backup.
    (Note: restoring a backup will factory reset your console).

    Information:
    If updating and older installation, download the latest download0.dat > use FTP or PS5 Explorer to place it in the user/download/PPSA01650 folder.

    Preparation:
    Download the Y2JB_backup_X.X(4.03) if you're on 4.03-12.40, or the Y2JB_backup_X.X(12.20) if you're on 12.60 or higher from HERE
    On PC: format a USB 3.0 HDD to exFAT, and copy the PS5 folder from the backup to the root, and put the latest nanodnf.efl from nanoDNS to the root too.
    On console: go to [Settings] > [System] > [System Software] > [Back up and Restore] > [Restore] > select the y2JB back up & let it install (the console will reboot when complete).
    (Note: The exploit will now be accessible under the [MEDIA] tab)

    Exploiting:
    Going to [Settings] > [Network] > [Settings] > [Set up Internet Connection] > [Set up Manually] > set up a wireless or LAN connection > change [DNS Settings] to manual > change [Primary DNS] to 127.0.0.1 > click [Done] > open the [YouTube App].
    (Note: Ignore and internet connection issue warnings)

    Firmware up to 10.01 will use Lapse Kernel Exploit. Firmware 10.20-12.70 and above will use P2JB and could take up to an hour.

    You can send payloads using netcat GUI to PS5's IP Address & port 9021.

    You can swap the download0.dat to itzPLK version for auto loading and payload manager in future (payload manager accessible through browser on 127.0.0.1:8084)

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].

  5. Requirements:
    PS5 console must be on 4.30-10.01 and previously activated through PSN or fake activated. You will need a 256GB external HDD (minimum).

    Preparation:
    Download balenaEtcher
    Download the latest Extended Storage or M.2 Image (select your m.2's capacity)

    EXTERNAL DRIVE METHOD (Netflix_PS5_EU_Ext.7z):
    1a, On PC: connect your 256GB (min) USB drive to your Windows/Mac/Linux PC > extract the image to your computer > open Etcher > click [Flash From File] & select the extracted image *.zip > click [Select Target] & choose the external drive > Click [Flash!] & allow it to complete.
    (Note: 256GB is the smallest drive you can use)

    2a, On console: click [Settings] > [Storage] > [USB Extended Storage] > [Games and Apps] > press X on [Netflix] > select [NETFLIX] under items to move > select [Move] > move to internal storage & allow it to complete.
    (Note: The exploit will now be accessible under the [MEDIA] tab)

    INTERNAL DRIVE METHOD (Netflix.XXXXGB.7z):
    1b, On PC: connect the M.2 to your Windows/Mac/Linux PC > extract the image to your computer > open Etcher > click [Flash From File] & select the extracted image *.zip > click [Select Target] & choose the external drive > Click [Flash!] & allow it to complete.
    (Note: 4TB will take 80 mins, 2TB 45 mins, 256GB 10 mins)

    2b, On console: Power off the console > insert the M.2 SSD > power on the console > click [Settings] > [Storage] > press X on [Netflix] > select [NETFLIX] under items to move > select [Move] > move to internal storage & allow it to complete.
    (Note: The exploit will now be accessible under the [MEDIA] tab).

    Exploiting:
    1a, for consoles 10.01 and below, on console: go to [Settings] > [Network] > [Settings] > [Set up Internet Connection] > [Set up Manually] > set up a wireless or LAN connection. Go to Proxy > change [Automatic] to [Manual] > enter Address: 172.105.156.37 & port: 42069 > click [Done] > open the [Netflix App].
    (Note: Ignore and internet connection issue warnings)

    1b, for consoles 10.20-12.70, COMING SOON.

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].

  6. Important:
    YARPE works from 4.30 to 12.70 (9.00 - 12.07 via P2JB)
    (A compatible PS4 game is required to launch the exploit on PS5. See below)

    Requirements:
    PS5 console must be on 4.30-10.01 to use this exploit.

    Exploiting:
    coming soon

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].

  7. Requirements:
    PS5 console must be on 4.30-12.70 to use this exploit. SWRR

    Exploiting:
    coming soon

    Debug settings will be loaded, and the package installer can be found under [SETTINGS] > [DEBUG SETTINGS].


  8. [UPDATED]
    No longer needed if using latest WebKit (to 13.60) or BD-JB (to 13.42)!


    Important:

    This method modifies the BD-J stack to allows BD-JB entry point to be re-enabled on consoles up to 13.60, for convenience only.

    Very Important:
    This method requires your console to be jailbroken by another method first to gain access to alter the files.

    https://github.com/Gezine/BD-UN-JB

    Preparation:
    Burn the ISO to a blank Blu Ray, insert it into the jailbroken console. Send the bdj_unpatch.elf to elfldr using netcat GUI to PS5's IP Address & port 9021 to unpatch BD-J.

    (NOTE: DO NOT REINSTALL/UPDATE FW, IT WILL WIPE THE PATCH AND LOSE BD-JB)


Once jailbroken it is recommended to run KSTUFF LITE and SHADOWMOUNTPLUS at minimum to get you up and running.
(ShadowMountPlus: is an automated background auto-mounter payload for jailbroken PS5 consoles. Detects, mounts, and installs game dumps from internal or external storage, with support for UFS, exFAT, PFS, and nested compressed PFS containers)

Additional Information:


Blocking Updated with nanoDNS:
Set primary DNS manually to 127.0.0.1. Send latest elf to BIN LOADER using netcat GUI to PS5's IP Address & port 9021.

PS4 GAME INFORMATION:
OFW 1.xx cannot run PS4 games.
OFW 2.xx runs PS4 games up to 8.03

OFW 3.xx runs PS4 games up to 8.52
OFW 4.xx runs PS4 games up to 9.04
OFW 5.xx runs PS4 games up to 9.60
OFW 6.xx runs PS4 games up to 10.50

OFW 7.xx runs PS4 games up to 11.00
OFW 8.xx/9.xx runs PS4 games up to 11.50
OFW 10.xx runs PS4 games up to 12.00

OFW 11.xx runs PS4 games up to 12.50
OFW 12.xx runs PS4 games up to 13.00


(Note: PS4 backported FPKGs also work perfectly on an exploited PS5 with Kstuff)


You can install free/demo PKGS (legit pkgs) via the debug pkg installer, provided you have all the files/json/licences required.
(Astro’s Playroom has no licences and can be installed and played from official pkgs and updated inline with your firmware)

Warnings:


1: Never enable IDU mode.
If you do, you will need to enter staff mode by holding L1 + L2 and tapping this combo: circle, cross, square, triangle, right D-Pad. Release L1 + L2, and you can access settings to exit IDU.

2: Try to stay on the lowest FW possible and wait for hacks on that firmware.

3: PS5 FPKGs do not work. A hack for the A53 processor does not publicly exist to enable installing PS5 content as FPKG/PKG.

4: Installing legit game PKGs you do not own will never work, even if spoofed.

5: If you get stuck in a boot loop at the PS logo, the SNVS is corrupted (if the hash check fails on boot, this causes a “soft brick”). It’s not “bricked”. Simply reinstall your current firmware RECOVERY PUP in safe mode from USB: PS5 > UPDATE > PS5UPDATE.PUP.

Archived Information


 
Last edited by KiiWii,
How could they know this though? There have been rumours of other undisclosed HV exploits for years, how can anyone say this with any certainty?
You would think this cannot be true, but with LLM's burning exploits so quickly, there might not be many more to find, and if they do find them they might not be entirely useful.

Sonic-Iso claims to still have more (zero-day) exploits in the pipeline, so I hope he has something of worth now 13.xx will be blown open. As @littlemisskittn mentioned, they should have held on just a bit longer... until GTA 6 at least, but Jordy said someone else found the exploit he found that was the same as The Flow found.... so it was only a matter of time before it got out I guess.
 
You would think this cannot be true, but with LLM's burning exploits so quickly, there might not be many more to find, and if they do find them they might not be entirely useful.

Sonic-Iso claims to still have more (zero-day) exploits in the pipeline, so I hope he has something of worth now 13.xx will be blown open. As @littlemisskittn mentioned, they should have held on just a bit longer... until GTA 6 at least, but Jordy said someone else found the exploit he found that was the same as The Flow found.... so it was only a matter of time before it got out I guess.
Along with destroying the job market, LLMs are going to make future consoles and DRM bulletproof 🎉
 
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I just converted stellar blade to pkg again using builder 0.6.7 .. I hope it works this time because last time it froze at the intro and I couldn’t even close to game to return to main menu that I had to do hard restart. It used to work fine as a game folder.

They said that all games are modified to work with itemzflow and sm+ not clean dumps that it why some work as pkg and some not.

I will try it when I get home 👍

I really like the game sizes are like retail sizes and full speed too.

I tested: demon souls, days gone, MHS3, spongebob, yooka, split fiction, dragon ball zero, reanimal and sand land … all working fine 👍

I tried it yesterday with 0.6.7 because of your older post and... Same issue. Had to hard reset.
 
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And if that's true, and GTA 6 comes out on 14.xx minimum, then there will be no back ups of that for anyone.
Surely that won't happen though right? They'd have to push a day 1 patch since it's most likely built on lower firmware, given all the delays and stuff. Unless that's part of the excuse for being digital only.
 
New fpkg gui update. Some improvements and fixes. See below:

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Link: https://gofile.io/d/ejiPLoFr
Post automatically merged:

I tried it yesterday with 0.6.7 because of your older post and... Same issue. Had to hard reset.
Check if rebuilding with fpkg-gui-0.6.8 resolves the issue or issues.
Post automatically merged:

At least we have "Wolverine & Sabertooth Erotic Adventure" to keep us busy on 13.60 😂
I see what you did there...
Post automatically merged:

Surely that won't happen though right? They'd have to push a day 1 patch since it's most likely built on lower firmware, given all the delays and stuff. Unless that's part of the excuse for being digital only.
It could be build on 13.00 and when released it will require 14.02 or an higher FW. Anyway the latest SDK. Be sure of that. The annoyance of Sony's digital only no disc policy.
 
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Probably unpopular to say this, but Flow, for as godly as he is with his knowledge, is doing entirely too much. He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. He says he's vehemently against dumping and piracy (at least for as long as I've seen him post publicly, even going back to the PS4 days), yet he said he wanted to wait to disclose it so that people could "people would have the opportunity to legally purchase the game and also enjoy Linux"? I don't think that really makes sense. He frames it like it's about Linux, when in reality it is obviously implied that it's about dumping GTA, imo. Obviously, it doesn't literally say that and that's my assumption, though.

The nature of disclosing bugs to these companies is competitive. If Jordy thought someone else was going to post the exploit, and if he really does have a sick parent (if that's even true), I don't blame him at all for disclosing it. That's $10k. That's life changing money for some people, especially depending on where they live.

How many exploits has Flow posted? Dozens? He's made a ton of money from this (for going on, what, a decade since PS4 days?), and I doubt he'd struggle to find a job in the tech field if he doesn't already have one. I think it's an ego thing. He's not the only person capable of doing this anymore, even if the others are just script kiddies messing around with LLMs until they find something. I'm sure that's gotta hurt (with good reason, I suppose).

Flow used to be, essentially, the ONLY person capable of doing this. Now that field has opened up and he's not the only one, so he says he's going to leave (again, BTW). He's left many times before, but he always comes back. I don't, however, believe that Sonic is the other person who independently found the exploit. AFAIK, he's only put out LLM made web apps and little more.

And do we have any proof that 14.00, which was already rumored to close a ton of bugs and introduce major changes that would significantly complicate jailbreaking before all this drama, was directly affected by Jordy's disclosure? AFAIK, firmware changes and pushes don't happen that quickly.

I also don't want this to sound like I don't appreciate Flow, Jordy, or Sonic. They've all contributed to the community and all deserve praise for that. I just think this dogpiling on Jordy is ridiculous when 99% of the people here probably would have done the same thing as him if they were in his shoes.

My own personal BS going on right now: Reddit banned my 15 year old account out of the blue for no reason other than "actions taken from your account". Still trying to appeal that, but so far, no luck :sad:
 
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Jordy said someone else found the exploit he found that was the same as The Flow found.... so it was only a matter of time before it got out I guess.
The thing is, the third person didn't do anything. Jordy just got it in his head that if someone else found it, more people would, so he cashed out. There was no dialogue or attempt made like TheFlow did to preserve the HV exploit, he just cashed his chips in and thought only of himself.

This is why that fucking bug bounty system was introduced in the first place. Until now, the difficulty level was such that professionalism ruled among the legitimate security experts despite the monetary incentives. Now that these undisciplined people are coming in, the fragile peace has been shattered. Sony bet peoples' selfishness would eventually pay off big time and the tree is now bearing fruit.

"sure he was selfish but think of all the reasons he had to be selfish, and if you don't agree, i invite you to prove a negative"
He sold us out in a moment where Sony is doubling and tripling down on deeply anti-consumer practices. I couldn't care less about his reported personal circumstances. The man scabbed, and there's only one thing to do with a scab.
 
The thing is, the third person didn't do anything. Jordy just got it in his head that if someone else found it, more people would, so he cashed out. There was no dialogue or attempt made like TheFlow did to preserve the HV exploit, he just cashed his chips in and thought only of himself.

This is why that fucking bug bounty system was introduced in the first place. Until now, the difficulty level was such that professionalism ruled among the legitimate security experts despite the monetary incentives. Now that these undisciplined people are coming in, the fragile peace has been shattered. Sony bet peoples' selfishness would eventually pay off big time and the tree is now bearing fruit.


"sure he was selfish but think of all the reasons he had to be selfish, and if you don't agree, i invite you to prove a negative"
He sold us out in a moment where Sony is doubling and tripling down on deeply anti-consumer practices. I couldn't care less about his reported personal circumstances. The man scabbed, and there's only one thing to do with a scab.
Let me reword @mattyxarope a little different in the ego aspect to show more what he means

Jordy was getting hella pressure and abuse before even sharing this because of these other folks that found the exploits ahead of him. They think they own them and can dictate how they get shared even when zero help was provided

This isn’t a rumor either I can speak from experience. I got the console keys on my console on my own after 3 months of work

You know what my reward was when people found out? I was told I better not fucking leak them “or else” and was also blocked by a lot of folks like the flow in return. Because I shouldn’t have them

I don’t plan on sharing them, but if my dumb ass could do it. Anyone can, the point of this is. You’d be surprised at how toxic these people are
 
Let me reword @mattyxarope a little different in the ego aspect to show more what he means

Jordy was getting hella pressure and abuse before even sharing this because of these other folks that found the exploits ahead of him. They think they own them and can dictate how they get shared even when zero help was provided

This isn’t a rumor either I can speak from experience. I got the console keys on my console on my own after 3 months of work

You know what my reward was when people found out? I was told I better not fucking leak them “or else” and was also blocked by a lot of folks like the flow in return. Because I shouldn’t have them

I don’t plan on sharing them, but if my dumb ass could do it. Anyone can, the point of this is. You’d be surprised at how toxic these people are
I absolutely believe this. People in this scene are psychos and demanding. Not only that, but they demand constant access to the people who make exploits in order to force them to troubleshoot for them. I would never, ever go on Discord if I were a person who releases exploits.

I would get that 10k bag, dip, and post the information online anonymously.

It's not worth dealing with the entitled public.
 
Let me reword @mattyxarope a little different in the ego aspect to show more what he means

Jordy was getting hella pressure and abuse before even sharing this because of these other folks that found the exploits ahead of him. They think they own them and can dictate how they get shared even when zero help was provided

This isn’t a rumor either I can speak from experience. I got the console keys on my console on my own after 3 months of work

You know what my reward was when people found out? I was told I better not fucking leak them “or else” and was also blocked by a lot of folks like the flow in return. Because I shouldn’t have them

I don’t plan on sharing them, but if my dumb ass could do it. Anyone can, the point of this is. You’d be surprised at how toxic these people are
If you were mistreated by members of the scene in that way, they engaged in the height of foolishness aside from their toxicity, and I'm sorry that happened to you. Making people feel shut out is a great way to make problems in the future. Ideally, we should all be working together. My bitterness comes from someone breaking ranks for their own benefit, and being rude or mean-spirited is ridiculously unhelpful in preventing things like that from happening.
 
"sure he was selfish but think of all the reasons he had to be selfish, and if you don't agree, i invite you to prove a negative"
He sold us out in a moment where Sony is doubling and tripling down on deeply anti-consumer practices. I couldn't care less about his reported personal circumstances. The man scabbed, and there's only one thing to do with a scab.
People are asserting that this 14.00 change was due to Jordy's disclosure. That requires proof. I don't believe there is sufficient evidence to show that his release directly affected any loopholes closed in 14.00.

And regarding the scab thing:
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These are videogames, y'all. It's not this serious. We're not entitled to ANYTHING. Threatening people over it is fucking wild.
 
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People are asserting that this 14.00 change was due to Jordy's disclosure. That requires proof. I don't believe there is sufficient evidence to show that his release directly affected any loopholes closed in 14.00.

And regarding the scab thing: snip
Due to Jordy's disclosure, there is a 100% chance that the hypervisor exploit will be patched by November. If it was an exploit that was already discovered, he wouldn't have been paid. It's immaterial whether it's in 14.00, because the issue is related to the timing of the report related to Grand Theft Auto VI.

I stand by the comment. The company is the enemy, and if you sell out to them when we needed solidarity, you're a scab, and scabs get shamed.
 
He sold us out in a moment where Sony is doubling and tripling down on deeply anti-consumer practices. I couldn't care less about his reported personal circumstances. The man scabbed, and there's only one thing to do with a scab.
Sold us out? Oh come on, the guy is about to release a brand new hypervisor exploit for free to a bunch of folks craving for a new jailbreak and this is the only thing you can come up with?

I swear some of you need to calm down about GTA, none of this story would have overblown like that if it wasn't for that single game.

JUST.BE.PATIENT, it will come eventually, it always does, just look at the state of the PS5 scene 9 months ago, people were still struggling with outdated software like Itemzflow.

And if you absolutely need to play GTA day one then go ahead, update your console, buy the game and let us enjoy that new hypervisor exploit.

This isn’t a rumor either I can speak from experience. I got the console keys on my console on my own after 3 months of work

You know what my reward was when people found out? I was told I better not fucking leak them “or else” and was also blocked by a lot of folks like the flow in return. Because I shouldn’t have them

I don’t plan on sharing them, but if my dumb ass could do it. Anyone can, the point of this is. You’d be surprised at how toxic these people are
Thanks for your insight on the matter, you are a knowledgeable individual and I appreciate some inside information in these drama times.
 
JUST.BE.PATIENT, it will come eventually
As of version 14.00, the security on the PS5 has changed. Getting dumps requires a full hypervisor exploit, not a kernel exploit. TheFlow's issue is that he wanted people to be able to legally play Grand Theft Auto VI and use Linux on the same console. My motives are much less pure, I just want to see the maximum number of people possible flip off Sony and dip, although I suppose TheFlow might have thought that, too.

After this, both are impossible, unless something truly astounding occurs. You don't just get a hypervisor exploit. It's not just going to the mine and digging one out. There was a golden opportunity for people on the GTA firmware to go "Okay, I'm done, fuck Sony," and go offline forever, with a full hypervisor exploit waiting for them day and date. That won't happen, now.
 
Stonnedmodder always defense slop devs.
Almighty flatz didn't wanted to release hypervisor exploit on 4.xx because failoverflow founded it first.
And stop making all news about yourself and your controller program.

I remeber you were crying here that nobody is using your bdjb theme when someone else released his theme.
Or when somebody else forked your controller github page and made improvements.
Kstuff was forked million times and made better by dozens devs and i don't see sleirsgoevy talking shit on the internet about it.
You slop devs are something else.
 
I feel like anyone complaining about reports to Sony should consider paying the bounty themselves before complaining about people trying to earn money, like yeah it's nice if we get free stuff and game dumps, but these guys don't work for you, so don't act like they owe any of us anything.

Wasn't there that community bounty recently for a full HV exploit or something like that?
What happened to that, did it get shutdown because the whole idea was you don't disclose the bug to Sony but instead to those guys in exchange for the bounty. Also I think it was US only or something right?
 
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I feel like anyone complaining about reports to Sony should consider paying the bounty themselves before complaining about people trying to earn money, like yeah it's nice if we get free stuff and game dumps, but these guys don't work for you, so don't act like they owe any of us anything.

Wasn't there that community bounty recently for a full HV exploit or something like that?
What happened to that, did it get shutdown because the whole idea was you don't disclose the bug to Sony but instead to those guys in exchange for the bounty. Also I think it was US only or something right?
It's still active.
Please google before posting
https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/playstation-5
 

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