Ethics/moralality of using AI for fanfics

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so let me back up a bit when i was 19 i wrote my first fanfic AI wasn't around and due to my mental illness (bi polar) i used it as therapy the creativity flowed, fast forward 21 years andi hit massive writers block that was until i used google geminai now a lot of people may argue over using it

currently the stories i write are Isekai based
legends Arceus
Yugioh
Code lyoko
and Digimon (adventure 02/tri) are my main projects
I do have an AO3 account and may post my stories
 
like i said i hit a massive writers block i used to enjoy it writing i just can't process my ideas into words on my own no matter how hard i try
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the concepts are still my own just needed a way to transcribe it
 
Ethics: bad
Morality: bad
im SHOCKED!
and here i thought you were such a fan of that artificial intelligence.
SHOCKED i say <3
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aaaanywho... no its not immoral to do that. Just PLEASE use local AI, not that cloud-based cancer.
There are some really wonderful models out there you can bounce ideas off of.
No rivers go dry, no hardware-shortages, no villages destroyed by constant noise and no power outages from using your own AI.

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I don't see how ai pushing out shit from your concepts can be considered a job well done.

I don't assume to understand writers block but regardless of the concepts, the end result is not yours. Personally, i would feel dirty claiming it as my own!

Why not then ask it to help you with your block, inspire some new ways to express yourself and my advice... Don't stop writing. Everything, anything, just don't force it and try some styles or subjects away from your comfort zone.

Hope you find your creative spark again soon man, don't give in to Skynet 🤪
 
personally i think unofficial works and what your describing is something that if your doing the fan flcs shouldnt be shared online and should be kept personal.

If your doing it for mental health and it helps you that is great and keep at it. Just don't put the work online for others.

I think AI crosses a boundary and personally when it comes to unauthorized works they aren't canon and aren't ever going to be apart of the official story so they shouldn't be put online.

When I was a kid I had a great time playing Felix The Cat Cartoon Toolbox. It was a software animator which allowed you to make animated shorts extremely easily. They had one for the Simpsons too. They were fun and you could create your own story but everything that was created was for personal fun. It was back when technology hadn't evolved to where you could screencap or share your animated shorts on youtube or some social platform thankfully. I don't think they would even make something like that for end users now because of how people would try to make their own content and monopolize the slop that would come out of it.



Fan Fics imo generally should only be for personal fun. Allowing them to be circulated and created easily just further dilutes entertainment and the convoluted web will just break. It's kinda like search engines. They used to be able to easily find what your searching for but with all the AI and created slop and changes to algorithms most search engines won't show you what your actually looking for. They will show you sponsored slop results because there are too many hands in the cookie jar. Getting a quality search result is almost impossible when looking things up because there is so much regurgitation of the same content that you have to go through pages of nonsense now in search results just to find something.

Fan fics have the same potential to destroy content quality content searching because of how much content can easily be created that no one is asking for and when they might look up stuff for official works they will end up finding a bunch of garbage. As a huge star wars fan I have seen quite a few Star Wars fan fics and not a single one of them imo should have ever been made or circulated around. They add nothing to Star Wars.
 
personally i think unofficial works and what your describing is something that if your doing the fan flcs shouldnt be shared online and should be kept personal.

If your doing it for mental health and it helps you that is great and keep at it. Just don't put the work online for others.

I think AI crosses a boundary and personally when it comes to unauthorized works they aren't canon and aren't ever going to be apart of the official story so they shouldn't be put online.

When I was a kid I had a great time playing Felix The Cat Cartoon Toolbox. It was a software animator which allowed you to make animated shorts extremely easily. They had one for the Simpsons too. They were fun and you could create your own story but everything that was created was for personal fun. It was back when technology hadn't evolved to where you could screencap or share your animated shorts on youtube or some social platform thankfully. I don't think they would even make something like that for end users now because of how people would try to make their own content and monopolize the slop that would come out of it.



Fan Fics imo generally should only be for personal fun. Allowing them to be circulated and created easily just further dilutes entertainment and the convoluted web will just break. It's kinda like search engines. They used to be able to easily find what your searching for but with all the AI and created slop and changes to algorithms most search engines won't show you what your actually looking for. They will show you sponsored slop results because there are too many hands in the cookie jar. Getting a quality search result is almost impossible when looking things up because there is so much regurgitation of the same content that you have to go through pages of nonsense now in search results just to find something.

Fan fics have the same potential to destroy content quality content searching because of how much content can easily be created that no one is asking for and when they might look up stuff for official works they will end up finding a bunch of garbage. As a huge star wars fan I have seen quite a few Star Wars fan fics and not a single one of them imo should have ever been made or circulated around. They add nothing to Star Wars.

But how will I get my r34 smut without fanfics? That is a niche that official sources either can't or won't fill.
 
Saying "I can't find inspiration for writing so someone else did it for me." would not get a pass so why should the Predictive Text Generator Machine Pretending to be Artificial Intelligence be allowed to excrete any of that?
 
There are some really wonderful models out there you can bounce ideas off of.
No rivers go dry, no hardware-shortages, no villages destroyed by constant noise and no power outages from using your own AI.
It would be better if AI never existed. If it didn't exist, then search engines wouldn't be bloated with misinformation, people can still make money for artwork and illustrations, we'll be still talking about brand-new, great game consoles. And of course, graphics cards and RAM would still be sold at a reasonable price. I don't need this slop shoved down my throat.
 
AI is a great *tool*, it’s not a replacement for creativity or hard work. It’s useful in more technical implementations like rapid prototyping or live suggestions, the menial tasks that would be considered a waste of an engineer’s or a programmer’s time. In the same way, it can be useful for an artist - you have a piece of art and you’re not sure if it would look better with cooler night tones or warm subset ones? Great - you can throw that problem at an AI and rapidly generate 10 concepts with all sorts of different shades to check the “feel” of it before you waste an entire day colouring your piece of art. You’re writing a story and you’re facing writer’s block? Not a problem, you can use AI to generate some cues based on what you’ve written so far and activate your imagination a little bit. AI output should not be considered the final output because it doesn’t actually create anything - it mixes and remixes things that it was trained on. If you’re going to call yourself an author, there’s a prerequisite of authorship there. Unless you’re writing a shitpost or making a meme - in those cases nobody really cares. If you want to know what people think about using AI in art, you’re more than welcome to look at how they react to Shadiversity - spoilers, it’s not positive. My position is in the middle ground - I think the anti-AI in all circumstances crowd is suffering from some kind of schizophrenic meltdown and are missing the point, or just don’t see the opportunity AI presents in terms of productivity and creativity. On the flip side, AI evangelists are also crazy - they suffer from delusions of grandeur because a computer spat out something that, to their untrained eye, looks decent. You want to strike a happy middle ground where you’re using the tools at your disposal to be the best creator you can instead of letting your tools replace you.
 
AI use as a story telling tool is actually very useful.dont ask it for stories.its bad.you should have a plot.break down it in parts .have a plot twist ,a switcharoo and a cliffhanger.then use AI to create the realation between caracters,the dialogue,the scenes descriptions.create diagrams to visualize relations and caracters depth.why not a story board? its a very fascinating subject.Start with mystery and crimes.
 

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