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Series S Internal SSD Upgrade

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Hm... it seems that on some Xbox Series X it is possible to use an third party adapter and a specific 2230 ssd and on others Xbox Series Xs it will not work at all.
Maybe like the not more exchangeable southbridge board, MS patched the system to force users to buy original MS expansion cards.
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On youtube Caffeine Entertainement is talking about it. and in the first commend someone is blaming the newer firmware on the ssds for the issues other user have at running the diy expansion moduls. And Caffeine is confirming this after testing.



Now would be the question: What max firmware should be on the ssd drive to be accepted by the xbox?
And is the controller flashable with a lower needed firmware?
 
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angryartichoke said:
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You owe me a coffee, taking apart the Series S is annoying.
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Since I had the xbox apart again I wanted to see if I could go back to the original 512 GB drive, that didn't work. Tried to clone the first partition to another 1 TB drive I had and that didn't work either.

I wonder if Microsoft has something that stops you from going down in size?
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Thank you! I was amazed that nobody uploaded yet that model of ssd (also is a weird model) . I owe you are beer for sure hehe. Although opening xbsx is harder hehe
 
angryartichoke said:
Back in business with the original 512 GB drive. Ended up having to use easeus partition master oddly enough.
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What did you have to do in easeus to get working with the original SSD.. I tried upgrading to a 2TB SSD that did not come out of Xbox Galaxy edition. If you can DM me on how you did it, I appreciated it :)
 
Hi,

what's the (final) conclusion? Just original Xbox S or X cards or proper model of wd and Seagate are working at replacing?

If yes, after cloning the boot partition or whole SSD any other modification needed?

If no, and any SSD could work, what's the proper method for cloning? I've tried it with Crucial P310 1TB SSD and it didn't boot.
 
it doesn't work with just any old SSD from what I have gathered and done. It has to be SSD's that are whitelisted by the OSU1. i have tired this with a 2TB SSD that has not come out of another Xbox Series Console. I am sure the bios on the SSD is what makes it work with a series console. It did not work for me when I used a Western Digital 2TB SSD. It would throw a E109 error after t verifies the update. It would not applied the update to the SSD. You have to copy over the special Key partition (1gb) so that the SSD can be recognized even if it doesn't take the update. If you don't do that, the Xbox will turn on and turn off. Also every time you update the dashboard, the key gets updated.
 
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it doesn't work with just any old SSD from what I have gathered and done. It has to be SSD's that are whitelisted by the OSU1. i have tired this with a 2TB SSD that has not come out of another Xbox Series Console. I am sure the bios on the SSD is what makes it work with a series console. It did not work for me when I used a Western Digital 2TB SSD. It would throw a E109 error after t verifies the update. It would not applied the update to the SSD. You have to copy over the special Key partition (1gb) so that the SSD can be recognized even if it doesn't take the update. If you don't do that, the Xbox will turn on and turn off. Also every time you update the dashboard, the key gets updated.
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I'm pretty sure that the raw partition cloning is not enough.
As I wrote it above cloned whole ssd despite of that the console turned on for a moment and off.
I assume that ssd model number(s, WD CH SN530, Seagate, etc.) is stored on console's motherboard. That's the reason why it works only the given models. This is my assumption.

I didn't try OSU yet. Could OSU work in my case above too (1st boot device usb)?
Where can I find the whitelisted ssd's?
After OSU attemption will the original ssd work?
 
G33ksquad said:
Todavía funciona, necesitas una unidad con el chip correcto, Phison E19 y no es un chip disponible en las unidades de consumo, por eso es más fácil desde una consola muerta.

1.) montarlo en una máquina Windows
2.) usa la parte del disco para cambiar a GPT
3.) formato como tamaño de sector NTFS 4096
4.) Vuelva a colocarlo en su Xbox, ahora se le debe solicitar que lo formatee como una nueva expansión, necesitará un adaptador para esto. Compré el cablecc de Amazon, funcionan muy bien, las malas críticas se debieron principalmente a una unidad incorrecta que se utilizó

Avísame si tienes algún problema para poder intentar ayudarte a solucionarlo.
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dodisco con ese chip funcionaria?
 
Luismibailen said:
dodisco con ese chip funcionaria?
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Con el chip Phison E19 cada vez más difícil de encontrar, optar por opciones oficiales que han bajado significativamente de precio es tu mejor apuesta.

With the Phison E19 chip becoming harder to find, going with official options that have come down significantly in price is your best bet.
 
peanutpckrupper said:
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I'm not sure if anyone else has done this yet, but I upgraded the internal SSD for my series S with one from a broken series X I purchased on ebay.
If you want to do this swap, you'll need to clone all of the partitions from the original 512gb ssd to the 1tb ssd with the exception of the user content partition. If you put the ssd in straight from the series x, it won't power on.
Also if you want to use your old 512gb ssd as an expansion card just buy one of the cfexpress to m.2 adapters, delete the partitions from the drive, and you should be good to go.
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Wait, it's possible to upgrade the internal storage? What about on the Series X?

I largely kept away from getting a system BECAUSE i was expecting the storage to become a problem, either with the internal storage aging and then ending up with a brick when it fails.

Is it just an off the shelf m.2? Is it keyed in any special way?
 
The SSDs for the Xbox Series X from my knowledge have special serial numbers, so it should not be possible to use an out off the shelf m.2 to replace the internal SSD. A SSD from another Xbox will work.

The SSD itself has a 1GB RAW partition, which is unique. If cloned to a new SSD, the new SSD could be used inside the XBOX. But after an update, only RAW partition on the new SSD inside the XBOX is valid. The old SSD with the old RAW partition will not be accepted anymore.

So it is possible to swap SSDs. But for backup it would be necessary to clone the RAW partion every time the Xbox is updated.

There are some XBFS tools for extrating and modding the RAW partition.
 
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angryartichoke said:
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You owe me a coffee, taking apart the Series S is annoying.
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Since I had the xbox apart again I wanted to see if I could go back to the original 512 GB drive, that didn't work. Tried to clone the first partition to another 1 TB drive I had and that didn't work either.

I wonder if Microsoft has something that stops you from going down in size?
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Ironic that the controller chip shown is the sake brand that was killed en masse thanks to a damned Windows 11 udpate. 👺
 

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