Pokemon Winds and Waves announced for Nintendo Switch 2, set to release in 2027

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After much anticipation, The Pokemon Company have today announced the latest entries to the core Pokemon series: Pokemon Winds and Pokemon Waves. Set to launch globally in 2027 on the Nintendo Switch 2, the trailer premiered as the finale to today's Pokemon Presents presentation celebrating the series' 30 year anniversary. In the short trailer, we got our first glimpse of the games' new region, as well as the Pokemon you'll be able to pick to journey with you: Browt, Gecqua, and Pombon.
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Based on the trailer, the games appear to feature a much fuller open world than their predecessors Scarlet and Violet, including underwater exploration for the first time since Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. With the tenth generation of Pokemon set to kick off next year, we can expect more details to follow in the coming months.

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Yknow, it's kind of sad they have to specify "not actual gameplay" when it looks like that, that means in all likelihood the games will look (or perform) worse than that trailer, which is really sad.

Ain't nobody gonna watch that whole thing just for a 3 minute trailer that doesn't even show gameplay

(Summary for the hopelessly illiterate (a.k.a. "tl;dr"): By your definition, no reveal trailer would ever be worth watching, because very few of them actually have gameplay footage unless they're mere weeks/months from release or releasing day and date of the reveal.)

(Now the part for those who can actually read.)

It's actually not too uncommon for a publisher to include something along the lines of "Version not final, does not represent actual game footage" or "All footage represents a game still in development" in game trailers before release. It's not really an indication that a game will be better or worse than what's initially shown. It's meant to both temper viewer's expectations of the final product (since things can and often do change between first reveal and full release), and potentially keep the publisher out of legal trouble if people attempt to claim "false advertising" based on any trailer prior to the launch/"Available Now" trailer.

The only thing that differs in most cases is where this message appears. For the Pokemon Winds and Waves reveal trailer, Game Freak/The Pokemon Company/Nintendo elected to put this both at the start of the initial cinematic, and then at the part that begins showing what could be mistaken as (finalized) gameplay footage. For the Monster Hunter Stories 3: Twisted Reflections reveal trailer, however, it's placed as this fine print at the very end of the trailer (funny enough, this was the case for the reveal trailers for Wilds and previous Stories titles):

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Honestly, I find the implementation of the disclaimer in Winds and Waves more trustworthy, because it's GF/TPC/Nintendo letting us know up-front that the trailer is not fully reflective of what the final product will look like visual/gameplay-wise a year from now. Whereas Stories' disclaimer being at the very end could be seen as Capcom barely fulfilling legal obligations while simultaneously lulling consumers into false expectations and artificial hype (and we all saw how that went with Wilds).


Alternatively, there is also a disclaimer indicating what platform gameplay footage was taken from, if what's shown in the trailer is actual gameplay (and not just footage that's altered to look like actual gameplay running optimally at highest settings - looking at you, Gearbox and Randy Pitchford). This disclaimer is sometimes followed with other parts that indicate if certain things were altered for cinematic purposes (such as camera angles) or if gameplay experience might differ in multiplayer. Helldivers 2 is one example of a game that had this kind of disclaimer in its trailers.

(Extra note: Oddly enough, this disclaimer is missing from most, if not all, reveal trailers for games developed by From Software - not even for The Duskbloods, which rules out the trend being a Nintendo/Switch-only thing. Maybe Fromsoft's just confident that they won't get sued even if something changes, or that fans will just take whatever's given to them.)
 
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(Summary for the hopelessly illiterate (a.k.a. "tl;dr"): By your definition, no reveal trailer would ever be worth watching, because very few of them actually have gameplay footage unless they're mere weeks/months from release or releasing day and date of the reveal.)

(Now the part for those who can actually read.)

It's actually not too uncommon for a publisher to include something along the lines of "Version not final, does not represent actual game footage" or "All footage represents a game still in development" in game trailers before release. It's not really an indication that a game will be better or worse than what's initially shown. It's meant to both temper viewer's expectations of the final product (since things can and often do change between first reveal and full release), and potentially keep the publisher out of legal trouble if people attempt to claim "false advertising" based on any trailer prior to the launch/"Available Now" trailer.

The only thing that differs in most cases is where this message appears. For the Pokemon Winds and Waves reveal trailer, Game Freak/The Pokemon Company/Nintendo elected to put this both at the start of the initial cinematic, and then at the part that begins showing what could be mistaken as (finalized) gameplay footage. For the Monster Hunter Stories 3: Twisted Reflections reveal trailer, however, it's placed as this fine print at the very end of the trailer (funny enough, this was the case for the reveal trailers for Wilds and previous Stories titles):

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Honestly, I find the implementation of the disclaimer in Winds and Waves more trustworthy, because it's GF/TPC/Nintendo letting us know up-front that the trailer is not fully reflective of what the final product will look like visual/gameplay-wise a year from now. Whereas Stories' disclaimer being at the very end could be seen as Capcom barely fulfilling legal obligations while simultaneously lulling consumers into false expectations and artificial hype (and we all saw how that went with Wilds).


Alternatively, there is also a disclaimer indicating what platform gameplay footage was taken from, if what's shown in the trailer is actual gameplay (and not just footage that's altered to look like actual gameplay running optimally at highest settings - looking at you, Gearbox and Randy Pitchford). This disclaimer is sometimes followed with other parts that indicate if certain things were altered for cinematic purposes (such as camera angles) or if gameplay experience might differ in multiplayer. Helldivers 2 is one example of a game that had this kind of disclaimer in its trailers.

(Extra note: Oddly enough, this disclaimer is missing from most, if not all, reveal trailers for games developed by From Software - not even for The Duskbloods, which rules out the trend being a Nintendo/Switch-only thing. Maybe Fromsoft's just confident that they won't get sued even if something changes, or that fans will just take whatever's given to them.)
You misunderstand me. I didn't say the trailer wasn't worth watching. I said the other 20 minutes weren't worth watching. Nobody cares about Pokemon Presents. It's mostly just fluff, it's not like Nintendo Directs which while often disappointing, at least it's all about the games.

I know it's not uncommon to have that disclaimer, but remember this is Game Freak we're talking about here, the bar is already pretty low and they are clearly not even trying to raise it. The final game always disappoints compared to early trailers. At least these days. So it's a pretty good guess that it will look and/or run worse than what is shown.
 
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You misunderstand me. I didn't say the trailer wasn't worth watching. I said the other 20 minutes weren't worth watching. Nobody cares about Pokemon Presents. It's mostly just fluff, it's not like Nintendo Directs which while often disappointing, at least it's all about the games.
Okay, fair on the Pokemon Presents part. I also kinda found myself a little bored with much of it. Mostly because I don't play the TCG or mainline competitive (Legends Z-A is the closest I've been to actual competitive play in a Pokemon game), and I don't play the mobile games. Did play Pokemon GO in the past, but it's hard to keep playing when you don't live in one of the ideal locations for a game that expects you to be in suburban or urban areas daily, so the announcements for that don't interest me either.

Honestly, outside of Winds/Waves, only the details for Pokopia and Champions had even a degree of attention from me beyond "Oh, okay" (well, maybe Mega Garchomp Z got a little more than that, but I doubt I'd replace Focus Sash Garchomp in Z-A anytime soon), and Champions is only because I'm curious to see how that turns out with Pokemon Showdown still being around as something that competitive players have been using for a decade or two now.
 
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Do it yourself then.
People do, honestly some of the fan projects and Pokemon-"inspired" games are far more impressive than anything Game Freak has put out since the DS/3DS. Shame that they get insta-DMCA'd.
 
It looks ... not that bad. (Yeah low standards for Pokemon I know)
It's not releasing this year ... good ... they are taking some time for it.
Wind/water mechanics can be fun. (If they even care about that)
Let me guess ... DLC on release again?
Besides that; it's Pokemon, everyone is gonna get that as ... always.
 
So these will be the first Switch 2 exclusive entries aka not hackable? :D
While I don't care about these games, I hope that triggers someone as talented as SciresM to tackle the NS2 after all.
 
So these will be the first Switch 2 exclusive entries aka not hackable? :D
While I don't care about these games, I hope that triggers someone as talented as SciresM to tackle the NS2 after all.

Honestly, I hope for the opposite, I want to be able to finally play Pokemon without all the hacked and genned Pokemon in online and trades.
 
I hope they'll feature national dex for 10th gen. File size isn't problem anymore since Nintendo already implementing game keycards. At the same time, 3d models of pokemon wont take so much space... look at pokemon home, it contains all 3d models of pokemon but its file size is less than 1 gb...
 
I hope they'll feature national dex for 10th gen. File size isn't problem anymore since Nintendo already implementing game keycards. At the same time, 3d models of pokemon wont take so much space... look at pokemon home, it contains all 3d models of pokemon but its file size is less than 1 gb...

Pokémon company and gamefreak is just lying. A report a while back was saying something like Pokémon games works on a budget. If they want they can put all the Pokémon. Its just time and money which is the real problem.

It's just greed imo.
 
As someone who goes through phases of ignoring Pokemon followed by phases of intense addiction, I'm waiting until every Pokemon can be transferred into one of these games before I even consider jumping back in.

Between transferring from older games, 2016 GameStop mythical distributions, and Pokemon GO (including GO fest events) I have a ~99% complete living dex in Pokémon HOME that caps at Gen 8. But knowing that even today not every Pokemon is transferrable into a main game just makes the phrase "Catch 'em all" pointless.

Fix that issue, and I'll once again become a blind follower of all things GameFreak.
There's never gonna be a mainline game again that will feature all pokemon. So if that's what u waiting for might as well just forget that idea now.

But Pokemon Champions exists now and if any game will have all of them at some point it will be that game.
 
The famous YouTuber, who I won't name, just did a video on it for 30 mins, and claiming it looks amazing! And he couldn't ask for more, but went on for 11 minutes talking about the water, SMH!

True Nintendo Fans, and True Pokemon fans, deserve better than this trash!

They have continued to disrespect their fans for the past 7 outings in the series.

Seriously, after seeing what Game Freak was able to do with their solo game Beast of Reincarnation!

And back to Pokemon, which looks worse than Palworld made years ago, and worse than almost every UE3, UE4, and UE5 fan made game, is mind-boggling.

Seriously, until the fanbase, says enough is enough and stop buying their mediocre releases, especially with the new price hikes and the underpowered hardware.

They will never give us a true Nintendo console, with actual updated technology, nor a real high quality Pokemon title.

They don't even change the formula, how it starts, and rinse and repeats the music and sound effects.

That's not nostalgia, it's just plain laziness. Cutting corners and costs!

Yet we're still suppose to pay the Premium price for mediocracy?
 
I really wonder whether the game will actually get a physical release, or just game keys.

People ate that shit all up with Pokopia, so why would Nintendo/GameFreak bother with actual cartridges?
 
I'm not as hardcore as any of you, but I do believe there is already an owl and gecko-type Pokemon in the franchise. If they're running out of animals to be inspired by, maybe it's time to use household objects for starters.
 

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