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Switch emulator Citron is being discontinued and Ryubing enters maintenance mode

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Citron, one of the big main 3 Nintendo Switch emulators that came out of Yuzu's downfall is sadly being discontinued.

Yesterday on Citron's subreddit. one of Citron's moderators, lockhart1433, announced that the Citron emulator will be discontinued due to internal conflicts, citing one of the major problems being that one of the lead developers got doxxed, leaking the real name and location of the developer, as well as still some lingering issues with the whole fallout from last year between Citron and some of its developers, which led to the creation of the Eden emulator, as well as the controversy when they switched how their internal Discord server operated, which happened alongside it.

This decision seems to be a culprit of all the previously mentioned topics, and now all of Citron's servers and websites have all been taken down, including their own self-hosted repository.

lockhart1433 said:
Citron has been discontinued after the recent drama involving eden. To keep a long story short, theres a new .tar file floating around called the citron files. Inside of these are zephyrons full name, location and camilles side of events mirroring the fall of citron post from last year. To add fuel to the fire, scubasteve a verified admin of citron may have been the one adding fuel to this. The files basically summarize every event leading up to camille getting a cease and desist from zephyron due to accepting donations claiming to be the lead developer. Everything died down for a year and now its back again. So i guess eden wins. Camille wins and is to blame for this. No more stolen commit posts. No more reverse engineering to improve switch emulation for everyone. Now all eyes are on you to step up since LotP is the only one with the knowledge. Reminder that totk and botw wouldnt work on 20.0 without their knowledge. So we bid you all goodbye and await the next project or maintainer to step up. The drama is now...finally...over and we are free.
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Not only that, but also one of the other main 3 Switch emulators, Ryubing, will also change, with the main developer GreemDev no longer maintaining the Ryubing project. However, the Ryubing emulator will still remain in "maintenance mode" by other users, like LotP, but GreemDev will no longer be involved in the development of Ryubing going forward.

GreemDev said:
Ryubing is not going anywhere. There's a lot of things going on in the scene right now, and I want to take the time to clarify some things. --- It is with a heavy heart that I announce that GreemDev is no longer maintaining the project. He's moved on to bigger and better things, and we support him in this decision. LotP and I will be spearheading the project moving forward, and while we do plan to make some changes, we can't promise anything more than what Ryubing currently is. This is not a phoenix project, this is a maintenance project, and we are sticking to those limited goalposts. We are not discontinuing development, but we do need help -- if you want to contribute, please reach out tofor an account on our GitLab.thanks for sticking it out ~ GreemDev

It is also with a heavy heart that I announce that the Citron project has discontinued. Zeph has taken the project down and left Discord. As this is a pretty hot topic, please refrain from discussing the happenings unless you are knowledgeable about the situation (see Rule #3, no drama, please). We are monitoring the scene for changes, and we are aware that forks will likely pop up. We are working with developers on a solution, but in the meantime, I strongly advise you all to be vigilant and wait for an announcement regarding this. --- With this being said, you may see a lot of new members join the server. Please say hello and welcome them to our little hellscape. To our newcomers, hello and welcome to Ryubing! I

and make yourself familiar with our policies, they're a bit different than what you might be used to. If you have questions, you are welcome to ask -- all I ask in return is that you are respectful. This is a difficult time for all of us, but we'll get through it. If you want to help us out, we are looking for contributors, and boosts help the server a lot! We are about to lose our server tag if we don't get more boosts, and I know many of you want to see the gradient role colors come back.

We're also opening ⁠chat for notes and suggestions from the community on what we should work on, and we're going to be accepting applications for a new helper role. You can message me directly if you're interested (will require verification). Thanks for sticking around, and for reading the giant text wall. love you guys.
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It is important to note though, that this is not related to the recent wave of DMCA's sent by Nintendo on GitHub earlier this week, as these decisions were made mainly due to internal conflicts and events unrelated to that wave of DMCAs, more so given how all 3 Switch emulators do not operate within Github and rather self-host their own source code.

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Bladexdsl said:
this is why you should not take donations for emulators leave the fucking things free. this is why we can't have nice things because people get greedy :glare:
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I don't think you understand the simple fact that people need money to pay for food and living expenses. You're probably still in school, so you're used to getting everything handed to you for free, but that isn't how the real world works. Somebody has to pay for everything.

Adults don't have unlimited free time, and most of them have families they want to spend time with and not just work 24/7 until they drop dead from exhaustion.

Because open source work is largely unpaid, they have to do that work in their free time, which takes time out of other things they could be doing, and they don't have as much time to spend on the open source project as they maybe would like, because of the paid job they *actually* have to be doing, otherwise they would be on the streets.

Taking donations allows them to work a part time job and put more time into the open source project while still making ends meet. And maybe, they might get enough donations to make that their full time job, which is nothing but a benefit to the users of the program.

As a result, we get a better quality emulator than we otherwise would have had, in fact it's quite possible the emulator would not exist in a usable state at all were it not for donations, because of the massive effort it takes just to get there.
 
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The Catboy said:
Bruh, read the article


That said, I hate that doxxing has become so normal these days. Countless projects have been ruined because some dickheads decided to put others in danger for literally the stupidest of reasons
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Yup, that's why I tried my best to make my self "doxproof". None of my personal info is online, and I often check for it. Everyone should be doing the same. lol
 
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The Real Jdbye said:
You're probably still in school, so you're used to getting everything handed to you for free, but that isn't how the real world works. Somebody has to pay for everything.
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He's actually been on this website since 2008... dunno how old he is now, but why should I care.
 
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Metoroid0 said:
That's it. I need to filter news on |GBA| temp. Im sick of hearing the word "nintendo".
There is something seriously wrong with that company.
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Welcome to GBATemp! On this website, we require a prerequisite to join in on the fun! Please ensure you see the words in a post before smashing that reply button!
 
Figured something was up with Ryubing since that wasn't updated in a while.
Metoroid0 said:
That's it. I need to filter news on |GBA| temp. Im sick of hearing the word "nintendo".
There is something seriously wrong with that company.
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Brilliant idea! Block out everything with the word Nintendo on a Nintendo themed internet form mainly focused on Nintendo video game consoles and handhelds (such as the Nintendo DS and Nintendo 3DS, with some smaller stuff focused on the Nintendo Gamecube, the Nintendo 64, the Super Nintendo, and the Nintendo entertainment system). Ignore the Nintendo Switch discussion you posted to with your Nintendo themed username.

(Wonder what this forum would be called if you strip all the Nintendo stuff away.)
 
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i miss the WII day's where nintendo did not give a fuck about emualtion and getting free online and easy hacked wii's to pirate games and stuff like that. now that the switch you can't pirate an play online. there like Steam now....
 
Metoroid0 said:
That's it. I need to filter news on |GBA| temp. Im sick of hearing the word "nintendo".
There is something seriously wrong with that company.
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Another clown that reads the headline and assumes Nintendo is at fault, which obviously it is not. I'm sick of incels trashing the company that has brought them more joy over the years than any other.

Lear to read, Metoroid0:
"Yesterday on Citron's subreddit. one of Citron's moderators, lockhart1433, announced that the Citron emulator will be discontinued due to internal conflicts"
 
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Darth Meteos said:
doxxing someone in a community where nintendo likes to sue for more money than you will ever make in your life sounds like the most evil thing that can be done
do we know who did it
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Last time I read about it is it's someone from the eden community. Not sure if accurate though.
 
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So besides the non-issue of Nintendo hitting forks on github (because people still havent learn't thier fuckin' lesson with emulating a currently selling device and putting it on GITHUB for the world to see, btw), the Switch Emulation scene is one again crippled by it own choices, because time is a flat circle.

Nintendo really did kill the hydra and cut off every possible limb if the community could only do just the equivelent of performing a half assed revival ritual that only made the hydra try to kill itself with all of this drama that happens every minute something not done to it by the Big N happens more or less dragging emulation progress by the fucking knees with 100 ton weights
 
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ChronoCrossfangirl2002 said:
Do people just forget that doxxing is illegal?
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As is libel.

//EDIT

Not affiliated with either project, but Citron main devs constant attacks against Eden seem to be a personal vendetta with claims of stolen code, using AI in development and now this. Unless proof is given on any of these, I'm personally labeling these as libelous.
 
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Hmmm well the whole narrative should be the focus on the emulation news evolving.
I say that because fights/arguments. (for a lack of better wording) are always messy when they get to this extent, but also always have multiple sides of the story and also multiple points of view (as we hardly ever see more directly then the online side (and there could be so much more to it)),

Key take-way besides the 'mess'; Switch emulation takes a big hit ... even without Nintendo's most recent actions.
 
Screw Citron! Bunch of a holes. Eden will be next they already got nintendo on their ass with take down.
 
Drama aside, if any of the devs still want to take a crack at developing an emulator for a portable gaming system, I'm sure the Vita3K dev team would gladly take the help. At this point it's the least well emulated of all of the retired handhelds. It would be great to see that get on the same level as 3DS emulation.
 

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