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Billy Mitchell wins defamation lawsuit against YouTuber, owed $240,000 in damages

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Billy Mitchell is no newcomer to lawsuits, having already been to court regarding the legitimacy of his Donkey Kong world records. That lawsuit took place over the course of around five years, with the matter settled privately, and Mitchell's high scores being reinstated. Now, a second legal matter has concluded, once more in Mitchell's favor.

YouTube content creator Karl Jobst has called out Mitchell on a handful of occasions, claiming that the latter's records were cheated and illegitimate. Jobst also made a YouTube video that claimed following yet another Mitchell-related lawsuit against content creator Apollo Legend, Legend took his own life as a direct result of owing too much in debt to Mitchell.

Jobst: He also sued YouTuber Apollo Legend for $1,000,000. I haven’t spoken about this publicly but this lawsuit ultimately ended with Apollo giving in and settling with Mitchell. He was forced to remove all his videos about Mitchell’s cheating and paid him a large sum of money. This left him deeply in debt, which required him to find extra work, but with his ongoing health issues this was all too much of a burden and he ultimately took his own life. Not that Billy Mitchell would ever care, though. In fact, when Billy Mitchell thought Apollo died earlier he expressed joy at the thought. The lawsuit against Apollo was just as frivolous as the rest and Apollo definitely would have won in court, but again he was extremely ill and couldn’t handle the ongoing stress.
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Mitchell filed a defamation case against Jobst, with his lawyers claiming Jobst's statements to be harmful to his reputation. KC Barlow, a Queensland, Australia judge proceeding over the case, found that while Mitchell has a negative reputation amongst the community as both a cheater and to frequently engage in suing parties for defamation, Jobst's videos on Mitchell were untrue. The defense team for Mitchell provided evidence that Apollo Legend never had to pay Mitchell any amount of money after the lawsuit--only if he made further content about Mitchell, which he never did--so Jobst's statements were incorrect and damaging to Mitchell.

Barlow: For the reasons below, I have made the following findings a) Mr Jobst defamed Mr Mitchell by making all the imputations that Mr Mitchell alleged;(b) Mr Mitchell has suffered significant personal and reputational harm as a consequence;(c) although he had the previous reputations alleged by Mr Jobst, and the defamatory video raised other substantially true contextual imputations about him, Mr Mitchell suffered substantially more personal and reputational harm as a consequence of Mr Jobst’s imputations about which Mr Mitchell complains;(d) Mr Jobst’s conduct since the first publication of the video, including during this proceeding, has been aggravating and has caused additional personal hurt and reputational damage to Mr Mitchell.[20] I therefore award Mr Mitchell $300,000 in general damages for non-economic loss and $50,000 in aggravated damages, plus interest on those sums at 3% per annum since the first publication on 21 May 2021. Subject to any submissions to the contrary, Mr Jobst should pay Mr Mitchell’s costs of this proceeding.
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The judge ruled in favor of Mitchell, stating that Jobst now owes the former around AU$384,000 ($241,000) in damages, legal fees, and interest. Jobst had previously started a GoFundMe account to help pay for the legal case, with some of his backers reportedly claiming that Jobst misled his fans. A subset of his community say that Jobst asked for money, claiming that the lawsuit was due to Mitchell suing Jobst over cheating claims.

Jobst took to X to defend himself, after the ruling. Here, Jobst claims that he never misled his audience, though he could have been more transparent regarding the matter. He also states that his comments on Apollo Legend were a result of "relying on incorrect information from multiple sources." According to Jobst, he owes "well over 600k" in legal fees.
 
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Damn, what a story.
That's a huge surprise honestly. Can we really say that the guy was malicious ? I really don't understand why he would lie about the purpose of the trial. Looks like stupidity to me.
 
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To be fair, if I truly felt that someone was responsible for the death of a friend, I would harbor a grudge too. So I can't blame Jobst for feeling about it the way he does if that's what he really believes, whether it's true or not. And on Billy's side I wouldn't want someone spreading that claim if I wasn't actually responsible. It's a sad situation all around.

I just hope that both of these guys can move on from here. No one is perfect and life is messy af. Sometimes you just have to accept that and leave things be.
 
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ChiefReginod said:
To be fair, if I truly felt that someone was responsible for the death of a friend, I would harbor a grudge too. So I can't blame Jobst for feeling about it the way he does if that's what he really believes, whether it's true or not. And on Billy's side I wouldn't want someone spreading that claim if I wasn't actually responsible. It's a sad situation all around.

I just hope that both of these guys can move on from here. No one is perfect and life is messy af. Sometimes you just have to accept that and leave things be.
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These aren't "move on" types of people
 
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AndorfRequissa said:
all i know is that u gotta be a complete loser tool to sue someone over defamation about video game claims. honestly anyone who would do this should be tortured and killed.

Billy Mitchell is a complete loser even if he has some money.
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its not about the video game, its about the apollo stuff
 
Jayro said:
I admit, I don't follow Billy's cases.
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You literally just skipped even the comments here and spewed out the first thoughts that came to mind lmao

LightBeam said:
Damn, what a story.
That's a huge surprise honestly. Can we really say that the guy was malicious ? I really don't understand why he would lie about the purpose of the trial. Looks like stupidity to me.
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Karl Jobst is an absolute idiot, that‘s quite evident. I mean, he speedruns video games. He didn’t misunderstand and mistakenly misrepresent the case to us though, he actively lied to his viewers for his own benefit. He profited off of claiming Billy Mitchell killed Apollo Legend and when presented with objective evidence to the contrary from AL‘s family he *doubled down*. KJ showed himself to be just as bad as BM by doing the exact thing BM has done: lying for gain.

ChiefReginod said:
To be fair, if I truly felt that someone was responsible for the death of a friend, I would harbor a grudge too.
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KJ and AL were not friends, I‘ve tried finding even a shred of interaction they had and come up short.
 
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ChiefReginod said:
To be fair, if I truly felt that someone was responsible for the death of a friend, I would harbor a grudge too.
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Funny story: Billy and Apollo Legend can be considered more of friends than Karl Jobst and Apollo Legend lol. Apollo Legend and Billy actually met up and chatted with each other for a while (posting pics together)

Karl just used Apollo's suicide as an excuse to fling more shit towards Billy (even tho imo he already had more than enough shit to throw at him.)
 
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Devastated at Karl tbh. Shame that he mislead people into believing it was about cheating and not the Apollo Legend stuff. I think he's completely destroyed his reputation. Time for him to get a "normal job" now I guess lol
 
Can you IMAGINE the video Karl would make about someone else doing EXACTLY this? I think he actually should. He should make a video about himself the way he would about anyone else. If he can’t do that I’m out.
 
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BlusterBong said:
It's so much worse because apparently Karl got definitive proof that Billy wasn't responsible for Apollo Legend's sudoku but kept fucking going anyways

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This was posted under the section of the legal papers "Reckless Indifference to the facts" by the way.
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I think it was a contributing factor. There is no way to prove a negative, and the only person who knows for sure is gone. Also, the statement was retracted, albeit in a less-than-conventional manner.
 
Well this definitely isn't what I expected. Even though Billy is still a very unlikable guy with a huge ego, he rightfully won this time. Shame on Karl for misleading us about the details of his lawsuit.
 
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orangy57 said:
Crazy that Karl Jobst made literally DOZENS of videos about Billy Mitchell and didn't mention this in any of them.

By the end it really felt like jobst was absolutely dragging the situation on and on and on. Doesn't help his case that he made all these inflammatory videos during an active lawsuit too.

This isn't to say that Billy Mitchell is a good guy or that he isn't a cheater but this changed my perspective honestly
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He mentioned it vaguely in one but made it about what he WANTED it to be about. Which is exactly what got him into this exact f'ing case. Had Karl made a full proper apology/retraction video instead of hiding one at the hind end up a video that not only *didn't* include any form of designation of "And an Apology" sort in the title, but also was PART OF A GAME COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO MITCHELL, maybe he'da not got sued.

But no, he doubled down, tripled down, and quadrupled down on the wrong bloody thing. He proved he's as manipulative as Mitchell and thus now everyone rightfully hates him.
 
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linuxares said:
Huh... Here I thought the case was about Billy being labeled as a cheater, that's the defamation lawsuit were about. Apparently it was an actual justifiable lawsuit about being blamed for someone's death? TIL
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What if Karl Joust disappears now?
 
Karl is the personification of arrogance and selfishness, this is what he said days before the trial:

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Like, what the fuck is the point of raising over $200,000 from your own audience to pay your lawyers, then proceed to dismiss what they have to say on the things you share on internet related to your lawsuit? just insanity.
 
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NinStar said:
Karl is the personification of arrogance and selfishness, this is what he said days before the trial:

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Like, what the fuck is the point of raising over $200,000 from your own audience to pay your lawyers, then proceed to dismiss what they have to say on the things you share on internet related to your lawsuit? just insanity.
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So he had a lawyer, but given that he clearly sees lawyers as a bad thing, I would not be surprised if he ignored his lawyer >90% of the time, and rendered said laywer as useless as soccer/football cleats in golf. Certainly came back to bite him, and his reputation is shot as a result.
 
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So he had a lawyer, but given that he clearly sees lawyers as a bad thing, I would not be surprised if he ignored his lawyer >90% of the time, and rendered said laywer as useless as soccer/football cleats in golf. Certainly came back to bite him, and his reputation is shot as a result.
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Someone pointed out that it's quite likely that Karl wasted most of his lawyer's time arguing with them or gaslighting himself into thinking he had a case no matter what, which fits his behavior and would explain why his legal fees are so high.
 
As someone who enjoyed Karl's videos I think he went overboard on some occasions. Not weird that it happened because well Billy keeps getting into situations. But Mutahar's (SomeOrdinaryGamers) video on that Karl lost sums it up well.

Sad though as Billy in my humble opinion really deservers his cumuppins.
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A-Hacked-Soul said:
He would upload a video about it first
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For sure, unlike some other just vanished Completionist ;)
 

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