[Rumour] Nvidia To Provide Single-Chips For Next DS?

Hadrian · Oct 13, 2009

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376911
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/...intendo-ds.aspx

QUOTE said:
As the time passed by, Nintendo started to work on the successor of its handheld console with a debut planned for late 2010 [Tokyo Game Show?]. According to our confidential sources, Nintendo is going to use Tegra System-on-Chip processor for the successor of DS/DSi handheld console. Unlike the current design, nVidia offered a single-chip proposal to Nintendo, a company famous for keeping the hardware platform absolutely simple.

Given the fact that Nintendo DS hardware is based upon 16-bit and 32-bit ARM cores, it looks like Next-Gen DS could be backwards compatible with the DS application library. According to our sources, all of the apps that came for old DS could run on a single ARM11 core, yet alone the next-gen CorTex-A9-based Tegra, leaving graphics subsystem to do "something smarter".

I do feel that Nintendo would announce a true successor to the DS next year but for the time being lets just say its a rumour.

raulpica · Oct 13, 2009

Yay, this would rock. I love Nvidia

By the way... it says it'll compatible with the DS library... that means it will have two screens like the DS?

My bets are on a single big touchscreen.

Maikel Steneker · Oct 13, 2009

raulpica said:
My bets are on a single big touchscreen.

I don't see that happening.

I really like Nvidia too. I'd say this has a good chance of being the thruth. We know the DS isn't very powerful, and today's technology and some smart people make it possible for a new system to be both compact and backwards compatible. I can definately see Nintendo announcing this at TGS 2010, with a worldwide release before summer 2011.

It will be interesting to see what new things Nintendo will be adding. I expect it to look pretty much like the DSi, but it'll probably have graphics that are at least as good as the PSP and some new feature that makes people want to buy it. It will also be interesting to see if and how Nintendo supports migrating DSiWare from DSi to their new handheld.

Satangel · Oct 13, 2009

Maikel Steneker said:
raulpica said:

My bets are on a single big touchscreen.

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I don't see that happening.

I really like Nvidia too. I'd say this has a good chance of being the thruth. We know the DS isn't very powerful, and today's technology and some smart people make it possible for a new system to be both compact and backwards compatible. I can definately see Nintendo announcing this at TGS 2010, with a worldwide release before summer 2011.

It will be interesting to see what new things Nintendo will be adding. I expect it to look pretty much like the DSi, but it'll probably have graphics that are at least as good as the PSP and some new feature that makes people want to buy it. It will also be interesting to see if and how Nintendo supports migrating DSiWare from DSi to their new handheld.

Hopefully it can produce the graphics of the PSP. Would love to play some PSX or maybe even PS2 games on the road.
I don't know if I'm going to buy the next DS though, school is getting more serious and life is just not letting me much time to game....

da_head · Oct 13, 2009

hmm interesting. can't wait

beano311 · Oct 13, 2009

Satangel said:
Maikel Steneker said:

I expect it to look pretty much like the DSi, but it'll probably have graphics that are at least as good as the PSP

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Hopefully it can produce the graphics of the PSP. Would love to play some PSX or maybe even PS2 games on the road.

The Tegra chipset, in it's current form in the Zune HD, is capable of playing 720p video as well as 3d graphics better than the iPod Touch/iPhone, which is definitely as good PSP graphics. Given that it'll be focused on playing games and 3D/2D rendering in the next Nintendo handheld, it'll probably be better than Wii level graphics.
As far as playing PSX/PS2 games on it, that probably won't happen, even through homebrew emulation. The emulation itself takes much more processing power than it would seem.

Sterling · Oct 13, 2009

This is great! I have had every revision of the nintendo handhelds over the years, and have loved everyone of them

I will buy this one too

Hop2089 · Oct 13, 2009

Why can't Nintendo just go both cart and Digital Distribution for their DS games? It wouldn't be that hard for them to do if they simplified the system and they could just up the AP protection.

Deleted_171835 · Oct 13, 2009

If this is true, I'll freak out. I purchased a DSi this YEAR! I wouldn't want a system that gets phased out by a new in 1 1/2 years. Then again, nobody forced me to purchase it.

Rock Raiyu · Oct 13, 2009

Damn. I hope this is true. If it's true, that PS3 just may have to wait a while!

blackdragonbaham · Oct 14, 2009

hopefully it is true, this would be a great footstep ahead for nintendo, and perhaps an argument for more people to be interested in a nintendo handheld; but also there would be comin' bad times up for sony; can't wait for this rumour to be officially confirmed

benjaminlibl · Oct 14, 2009

Whoa, this seems epic! Can't wait.

zeromac · Oct 14, 2009

Satangel said:
Maikel Steneker said:

raulpica said:

My bets are on a single big touchscreen.

Click to expand...

I don't see that happening.

I really like Nvidia too. I'd say this has a good chance of being the thruth. We know the DS isn't very powerful, and today's technology and some smart people make it possible for a new system to be both compact and backwards compatible. I can definately see Nintendo announcing this at TGS 2010, with a worldwide release before summer 2011.

It will be interesting to see what new things Nintendo will be adding. I expect it to look pretty much like the DSi, but it'll probably have graphics that are at least as good as the PSP and some new feature that makes people want to buy it. It will also be interesting to see if and how Nintendo supports migrating DSiWare from DSi to their new handheld.

Click to expand...

Hopefully it can produce the graphics of the PSP. Would love to play some PSX or maybe even PS2 games on the road.
I don't know if I'm going to buy the next DS though, school is getting more serious and life is just not letting me much time to game....

So so true i don't actually think ill end up buying ANY new DS whatever, i might just grab a psp and get all its functions

zuron7 · Oct 14, 2009

This is going to rock.
I was looking to update to the DSi might as well wait.

Veho · Oct 14, 2009

Although I'm excited about the next handheld, I can't help but think "liek OMG where did the time go."

RupeeClock · Oct 14, 2009

I don't get it, ATI did the graphics for the Gamecube and the Wii, so why Nvidia in this rumour?

Zalda · Oct 14, 2009

beano311 said:
Satangel said:

Maikel Steneker said:

I expect it to look pretty much like the DSi, but it'll probably have graphics that are at least as good as the PSP

Click to expand...

Hopefully it can produce the graphics of the PSP. Would love to play some PSX or maybe even PS2 games on the road.

Click to expand...

The Tegra chipset, in it's current form in the Zune HD, is capable of playing 720p video as well as 3d graphics better than the iPod Touch/iPhone, which is definitely as good PSP graphics. Given that it'll be focused on playing games and 3D/2D rendering in the next Nintendo handheld, it'll probably be better than Wii level graphics.
As far as playing PSX/PS2 games on it, that probably won't happen, even through homebrew emulation. The emulation itself takes much more processing power than it would seem.

but if it can produce graphics as good as the Wii's, then why couldn't it be able to emulate PSX games?
the wii can do it, the psp can do it, why not this one?

psycoblaster · Oct 14, 2009

Some thoughts on this:
Even if the next model of Nintendo's handheld uses a Nvidia Tegra platform or any other modification of it, I doubt the graphics will still be comparable to the PSP. The PSP, which surely has better resolution for its screen size than that of a DS (especially the DSi), also renders more than 30 million polygons per second.
It's true that the Tegra will enable better graphics acceleration, but I bet it still won't be able to reach the PSP's graphics. However, we also need to think about another problem.
The DSi's screen is larger than the lite. Battery consumption increases, but the device's batteries are getting worse. From 1000mAh (which is still too low when considered to other devices), the DSi's battery is only 840mAh.
If the next device's battery still remains in this range, then we won't see much of a good battery life. At least a 1200mAh battery should be included for a decent performance.

Also, I'm sure that the Tegra used in the next device will be somewhat underclocked. That may be another reason why we won't see the best performance.
If the next device is actually Tegra equipped, we won't see a stunning performance, but we finally may be able to see a "mature" device from Nintendo.

My hope list:
Larger RAM
A resolution that actually makes good use of the screen size
A usable media player
Better battery (840 mAh is really a bad move.)
Good use of Tegra's flash acceleration!!!

Hadrian · Oct 14, 2009

Veho said:
Although I'm excited about the next handheld, I can't help but think "liek OMG where did the time go."

I know, its hard to think that we only got the DS five years ago.

I thought there would be a new DS this year actually what with Nintendo not really doing many first party DS games, I thought their teams might have been working on something new. They're hardly doing that much on the Wii either. They've got like eight first party studios and there doesn't seem to be that much coming apart from Zelda: Spirit Tracks which is probably finished now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Ente...and_Development

^ Most of their stuff is nearly done so most all be working on unannounced games, I guess EAD Software Group No. 3 is doing the next Wii Zelda right now. Even the second party ones don't seem to have much apart from localising existing Japanese games.

They're cooking something at Nintendo, 2010 could be a major year...or it could have Wii Music 2 as the biggest title...well ok Mario Galaxy 2 will be and there is Metroid: Other M even though that one is mainly by a 3rd party team.

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