RANT about current CFW standing and frustrations.

[TomSwitch]

I didn't mind the wait as much on 3DS, because cartridges saved to the cart, so I didn't have to worry about potentially losing my save data if something happened to my console. Mostly only important for Pokémon though, because of how much time went into that and how devastating it would be to lose it all. On the Switch though, I kinda refused to touch it until/unless I was able to make save data backups.

Save backup came very early too.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

I totally get you, but what you describe... is that cheating?
That sounds for me like something between cheating an modding! Maybe hard to explain, but I think we know what each other means!?
Like using the invisible/no boundaries cheat/mod to find eastereggs in maps of csgo!

That is a bit different and that line very close to each other (cheat/mod)

But from a technical point they are still cheats, and being able to use them also allows all the other cheats to be created.

And the line is even more blurry, if you use things like modifying item slots in a bag to change items to unused items, or to add them to your bag. Or when you play around with wild pokemon encounters, to test the variations of different pokemon.
Or combining cheats for using items in multi-player battles and capture trainer pokemon, to surprise a friend, and see a pokeball flying the other way around for the first time.

All these things are often done in memory on the fly with cheats.

And even getting advantages in single player games by increasing the level or giving you an ability you weren't able to unlock, because you are stuck at a specific enemy or level, is not hurting anyone, and might even let you enjoy the game more, when otherwise you would have just stopped playing the game in frustration.

Its like many powerful tools, don't blame the tool, blame the person missusing it.
At least for basic stuff, aimbots and stuff like that are a different thing, much harder to block, compared to basic cheating. But normal console cheats are much simpler then those tools.

 

[Donnie-Burger]

Everything thats been done through software and hardware has been extremely amazing / impressive.

 

[SecureBoot]

Some soup kitchen serves better food that others. Want better food at the soup kitchen run it yourself or donate to the cause.

Most homebrew app are developed by one person. Some of them very good and produce excellent quality work but you may not see a release for a very long time. Some app get baked in the squat and never get released.

A few are excellent and appear as if they are working full time for free.

That's why I said you just have to deal with it and move on

 

[guneszop]

CFW is from developer perspective a separate thing than homebrew. CFW allows using Switch OS at developer level + adds additional features. But as homebrew dev you're not limited to what CFW can, you are limited to what OS can. Libraries like libnx and Atmosphere-libs are helping you make homebrew much easier.

 

[emilin_rose]

i mean, it'd be nice to make cheats easier, like they were on the ds, but i have little coding knowledge so i can't really do anything but accept what others make available.

 

[TomSwitch]

i mean, it'd be nice to make cheats easier, like they were on the ds, but i have little coding knowledge so i can't really do anything but accept what others make available.

In what way is cheating easier on DS?

 

[emilin_rose]

In what way is cheating easier on DS?

well mostly i used akaio and desmume, so it was fairly easy to turn cheats on and off.

 

[TomSwitch]

well mostly i used akaio and desmume, so it was fairly easy to turn cheats on and off.

And how is it easier than on Switch?

 

[JayBae]

Ummm... no. Atmosphere would be shut down, and SciresM would be jailed and fined just like that Bowser dude (who ironically, isn't a coder at all... all he ever did was promote it). Loading XCI images is enabling piracy 100%. The only reason NSPs can be installed is that it's needed to install nsp homebrew. You can't even install and run commercial nsp dumps without loading 3rd-person patches. Leave Atmosphere out of this.

Bowser and such were jailed for a diff reasons, and the charges stuck cause they were making money off of it. Maybe look up what they actually went to jail for instead of the rumors. Just cause you give compatibility for a format does not make you a pirate, if they simply coded to handle or use .xci files is not pirating. They aren't providing you games or content, they'd just be putting the code in place to handle it. Simply supporting the format .xci is not promoting pirating, being the .xci format could be used more than just for games.

 

[urherenow]

Bowser and such were jailed for a diff reason. Maybe look up what they actually went to jail for instead of the rumors. Just cause you give compatibility for a format does not make you a pirate, if they simply coded to handle or use .xci files is not pirating. They aren't providing you games or content, they'd just be putting the code in place to handle it. Simply supporting the format .xci is not promoting pirating, being the .xci format could be used more than just for games.

Maybe take your own advise and look at what he was charged with. One of the charges he plead guilty to was "Conspiracy to Circumvent Technological Measures". XCI files require circumventing the checks in the system. That's why the patches are needed.

But hey, you do you. Atmosphere is open source, so go ahead and fork it and add support. We'll see where that gets you.

 

[M7L7NK7]

Name one time xci has been used for something other than games

 

[orangpelupa]

Huh? Isn't those issues are homebrew app issue (specifically edizon) instead of CFW issue?

 

[JayBae]

Maybe take your own advise and look at what he was charged with. One of the charges he plead guilty to was "Conspiracy to Circumvent Technological Measures". XCI files require circumventing the checks in the system. That's why the patches are needed.

But hey, you do you. Atmosphere is open source, so go ahead and fork it and add support. We'll see where that gets you.

;3 Just cause you think the charge relates to .xci, does not mean I'm wrong.

 

[JayBae]

Huh? Isn't those issues are homebrew app issue (specifically edizon) instead of CFW issue?

The Apps would not exist without CFW. So it all goes! It's all part of the big picture!

 

[JayBae]

Name one time xci has been used for something other than games

Just cause no ones used it for anything else, does not mean it can't be.

 

[M7L7NK7]

But it hasn't, abd probably never will be. Sx was advertised as loading xci game files and nro applications so even they had no intentions of it being for anything else

 

[JayBae]

But it hasn't, abd probably never will be. Sx was advertised as loading xci game files and nro applications so even they had no intentions of it being for anything else

TBH, does not really matter, but it is a format people use and find useful, there is nothing wrong with adding support for it, even if the SX team had no intentions of it being for anything else.

 

[JayBae]

It's whatever! XD

 

[TomSwitch]

Before long some people are going to say it is Nintendo's fault that they pirate games. If Nintendo didn't make the Switch all this won't have happen. Nintendo is the big picture. How about blame the air that you breath. If the air were not there you won't be pirating right? Even bigger picture.