Hacking Question 2 firmware on one console, switch is bricked. Need help.

[Deleted member 550701]

You really, REALLY, should give Atmosphere a second chance. It's probably the (only) future for CFW on the Switch. It's not that hard to set up. If you have a good NAND backup made before you did any hack to your sysnand, you should be good. Just restore that backup, format your SD card to FAT32, and start from scratch, make an emunand with hekate, update it and install atmosphere plus sigpatches. I don't see how it could go wrong. Follow a good guide. Don't settle for a dead CFW. Don't be a second class citizen in the Switch CFW scene.

Absolutely agreed, also wow that is very well formatted and worded.

 

[mikefor20]

I run atmosphere on a full EmuNAND and SXOS(for USB XCI loading) using a minimal 8GB EmuNAND. Both on my main card.

OP....REI is useless.

However, you can have multiple EmuNANDs. If you really want both. It IS possible. REI has 0 advantage... use atmosphere.

SX can still load from USB... and is compatible with thousands of games. IF you wanted to maintain an old os, SX has a clear unique and useful feature. REI is just old.

I still love my 5TB HDD and 1TB SSD(for handheld mode)

Also. FYI, if you're using EmuNANDs you can have different EmuNANDS and different firmwares.....

 

[impeeza]

Man, «Atmosphère no so good» is a manner of taste, once upon a time «they» charge you for a CFW and «they» did start a defamatory campaign against Atmosphère (from what ironically «they» steal most of his code) because it is free and some people just justified the «is a bad CFW» because Atmosphère is not piracy oriented and have no native USB XCI loader, but if you really think about it that loader is a hassle instead a bonus:

• You lost the portability of Switch.
• You depend on a bulk hard drive.
• Takes time on start a game.
• You waste power and battery.

If you are or not on piracy is beyond this forum, but Atmosphère and Sigpatches let you install a backup of your legally cartridges (or no so legally) in no time and you have ON THE GO all the games you need.

When you have a library of thousands of titles I can bet you; you never play more than a dozen at time, so no need for a XCI Loader at all. beside the say loader, Atmosphère and the optional Hekate are powerful pieces of software, open source and very easy of install and maintain.

Give a read to the many guides and put your self on a Switch with the latest firmware, latest Atmosphère (Hekate) and you can obtain several Sysmodules which you will love, like Mission Controll (pairing non official Bluetooth controllers), Emuiibo (Amiibo emulator), Edizon (Cheats on almost every game) JVK or Checkpoint (Very Save backup and export) and thousands of Homebrew.

 

[kidkat210]

I will state. Rei is pretty much an aio pack of atmosphere

 

[mikefor20]

Man, «Atmosphère no so good» is a manner of taste, once upon a time «they» charge you for a CFW and «they» did start a defamatory campaign against Atmosphère (from what ironically «they» steal most of his code) because it is free and some people just justified the «is a bad CFW» because Atmosphère is not piracy oriented and have no native USB XCI loader, but if you really think about it that loader is a hassle instead a bonus:

• You lost the portability of Switch.
• You depend on a bulk hard drive.
• Takes time on start a game.
• You waste power and battery.

If you are or not on piracy is beyond this forum, but Atmosphère and Sigpatches let you install a backup of your legally cartridges (or no so legally) in no time and you have ON THE GO all the games you need.

When you have a library of thousands of titles I can bet you; you never play more than a dozen at time, so no need for a XCI Loader at all. beside the say loader, Atmosphère and the optional Hekate are powerful pieces of software, open source and very easy of install and maintain.

Give a read to the many guides and put your self on a Switch with the latest firmware, latest Atmosphère (Hekate) and you can obtain several Sysmodules which you will love, like Mission Controll (pairing non official Bluetooth controllers), Emuiibo (Amiibo emulator), Edizon (Cheats on almost every game) JVK or Checkpoint (Very Save backup and export) and thousands of Homebrew.

Yet another Atmosphere use who knows nothing about SXOS trying to discourage it's use for no reason. XCI loading is a wonderful way to play backups. Let me clarify things for you

• Portability is not lost. SXOS is compatible with ANY USB device. An SSD in an enclosure uses almost no electricity (comparable to the NAND or Cart) Flash drives. SD cards in a reader. They all work. And work well. Just use an OTG cable in handheld mode.. Common misconception from Atmo users who read biased and incomplete posts.
• HDD aren't bulky. SSD even less so. And a SD an reader is even less... Be realistic. I use a clip for a lazy neck and velcro the SSD to it lol. Works great.
• Takes time to start game??? WHAT?? how you figure? with the SXOS auto loader (or whatever it is called) after you run the game once. you click the image on the home screen. EXACTLY LIKE ATMOSPHERE. It load's EXACTLY LIKE ATMOSPHERE. It takes the same mount of time. Some SD card are slow AF too.. That's just ridiculous. If you are talking about the XCI menu.. that takes as long as the HD needs to scan through the XCI files. and you only have to do it one time for each game . After that it's EXACTLY LIKE ATMOSPHERE except it plays off a MASSIVE storage device.
• That depends on your USB device. My SSD is very low voltage and makes no difference in battery life. My HDD is fine too. I suppose some shit old HDD could be an issue.. Who cares.?

Also., 20 titles or 500 titles, it's up to you. Having a CHEAP MASSIVE drive IS useful. 100%. You don't have to have it all portable either. I have my current favorites on my SD and use the USB HDD (5TB) for archival purposes. I keep it on the dock; I have my SSD (500GB and a NEW 1TB) for portable mode. And, even though you can install XCI EXACTLY LIKE ATMOSPHERE, XCI files require no installation. It's an easy drag and drop to try things and play off the USB. you can install later if you like the game. USB drives work great to INSTALL XCI files off of too.

• You say "it's a matter of taste" and then tell me the HDD is not necessary. Seems like an opinion stated as fact. None of this is necessary. It's just for fun. You only NEED to eat sleep breathe and expel waste.
  
• Nobody said to have thousands of games, just that SXOS is in fact compatible with thousands of games.
  
• Most SYS modules work fine. You just have to put then in the right directory for SXOS .(/SXOS/titles).. I use Sys-Con for USB controllers and Mission control all the time Edison too.. Emuiibo has issues but once again.. WHO CARES? I use a Tesla overlay to switch back and forth between atmosphere and SX when I want to use amiibo emulation. Or a N215 tag (they cost like $0.20 a piece!) Another "truthy" statement from the SXOS Hater brigade.
  
• There was little to no smear campaign FROM SXOS. There was bricking code if you tried to hack it. There was a statement that the brick was "easy for a programmer with talent to fix" (encrypted the NAND) and if the Atmo crew "couldn't figure it out they have no reason to be in the scene." The Atmo crew on the other hand.. LOOK OUT!!! So much SX hatred it's sad. It's like TX boned your mom on your birthday. Hell, you guys lynch normal users for wanting to use SXOS. Harass, harass and tell a bunch of blatant lies. At least get the story straight.
  
• I know some code was stolen.. who cares!! 99.9% of you are pirates.(and most of the remaining 1% are liars! Don't get your panties in a bunch and start swearing you never steal games. I don't believe you and I don't care.) Even though Atmosphere does not support piracy out of the box, it is clearly not designed to stop it. The Atmo team is quite aware of the sig patch situation and could easily make it a lot more difficult. They don't. Complaints about SX ripping off code are hilarious!

"Somebody ripped of my code I wrote to rip off Ninty's code!" Please...

The original statement was something like "Mainline Pokemon game incoming.. Time to buckle down and hack the system." I know Mikey was basically talking about his Pokedex program but he knew what he was doing..

Also the number one gripe... SX costs money.. IT'S FREE NOW. just stop.

I am not saying to use SX necessarily. I do. But it is an option that is FAR more useful, and up to date, than REI. That was my prior statement and the spirit of my post. USB loading really is great. It is reason enough to set up SX on something so you can use massive devices,. You can use a reduced size EmuNAND. IIRC 4GB is the smallest EMUtool does.. 4GB to have the ability to run so many types of devices is an easy decision for me. And remember HDDs are far cheaper per GB. Bought a 5TB WD Easystore for $60 or so on black Friday and another a few days ago for $70

OP, You can use all the CFWs on the same SD. Whatever you like. I personally have several SD's and several setups. My daily driver 256GB SD boots to Argon (a multi boot menu) and can boot SXOS (for USB XCI loading) Atmosphere (for current games) Ubuntu and Android (for fun!) Don't listen to the boring brigade. Use your device to it's fullest potential and have fun. You don't have to choose.

Atmo users, please give a go and try USB loading. Like, really try it. Toss a game or two on the HDD and notice how easy it is. My 8yo nephew has been doing it for years. No install. No needing double the space to fit the NSP AND install it. No more running out of space and deleting games. And don't forget the auto loader ( I think it's on the SXOS forum). With it SXOS acts EXACTLY LIKE ATMOSPHERE except awesome USB loading...

And if you have never really used SX.. You know, for more than a few hours.. Please, stop talking shit. Your bitterness and your intentional deception is sad and pathetic.

Also, OP, REI really is shit. It has no advantage over atmosphere and is even more out of date than SXOS.

If anyone wants honest information, feel free to DM me. I will respond when I can.

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I will state. Rei is pretty much an aio pack of atmosphere

YES, an OUT OF DATE, inferior Atmosphere without any extra functionality! Exactly. Skip it.

 

[M7L7NK7]

I know you were one of sx's main defenders when everyone used to hate it but just let it go, why do you need to write a million words to defend them

 

[mikefor20]

I know you were one of sx's main defenders when everyone used to hate it but just let it go, why do you need to write a million words to defend them

I am not defending SXOS. I am simply saying REI is useless. IF you want to maintain an additional OS try SXOS because its more up to date and has USB Loading. Other than that its about squashing the bullshit anti SXOS propaganda. USB loading is GOOD. And the lies are so pathetic. Just stating the facts Ma'am. Defending SX?? No. I DGAF about them. This board is the #1 place to go for information regarding Switch hacking (Wii,3ds etc.) Let's try to be complete and factual instead of incomplete and incorrect. Just the facts. For the sake of the scene. Screw the politics. And a million words? please. How many WPM do you type? 10?

I never cared about SX. Just USB loading. And I hate liar elitist children.

In think you mean well (Great)Milenko (hee hee hee hee ha ha ha ha ) and you are far less blatant and annoying than the average SX hater. That said, please use facts to make your case. Everyone never hated SX. Some people did. I am pretty sure it's cause they are mostly 13 year olds and their mommies wouldn't pony up the $60. Alot of us love our USB loading.

 

[Deleted member 550701]

I am not defending SXOS. I am simply saying REI is useless. IF you want to maintain an additional OS try SXOS because its more up to date and has USB Loading. Other than that its about squashing the bullshit anti SXOS propaganda. USB loading is GOOD. And the lies are so pathetic. Just stating the facts Ma'am. Defending SX?? No. I DGAF about them. This board is the #1 place to go for information regarding Switch hacking (Wii,3ds etc.) Let's try to be complete and factual instead of incomplete and incorrect. Just the facts. For the sake of the scene. Screw the politics. And a million words? please. How many WPM do you type? 10?

I never cared about SX. Just USB loading. And I hate liar elitist children.

In think you mean well (Great)Milenko (hee hee hee hee ha ha ha ha ) and you are far less blatant and annoying than the average SX hater. That said, please use facts to make your case. Everyone never hated SX. Some people did. I am pretty sure it's cause they are mostly 13 year olds and their mommies wouldn't pony up the $60. Alot of us love our USB loading.

Do you know Twitter? I think you would love it, everyone's arguing there like a 12 year old too.

 

[mikefor20]

Do you know Twitter? I think you would love it, everyone's arguing there like a 12 year old too.

Argument? What argument? Just fallacies and facts. Give COMPLETE and ACCURATE information and let the reader make up it's mind. And talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Your post has zero information. Zero original ideas. And zero reason to exist! 100% bait. Don't you have a bridge to guard and billy goats to scare? Please.

SXOS has USB loading, it costs 4GB of SD space to implement and no longer costs one red cent. Why shouldn't it be presented as an option? Especially when compared to REI... REI sucks.

OP don't listen to the hype. You can have all CFW if you want. And REI is pretty much crap.

 

[Lacius]

@optimizedc4 Making the switch to Atmosphere is highly recommended.

@mikefor20 and I are in agreement that ReiNX, at this time, is useless. However, unless you just need to be able to launch games off a USB device (and are willing to install an extra emuMMC to do so), SX OS is also useless at this time.

You can't launch newer games using ReiNX or SX OS, since newer games require newer dependencies that are absent from the older system versions required to use ReiNX and SX OS.

 

[digipimp75]

I run atmosphere on a full EmuNAND and SXOS(for USB XCI loading) using a minimal 8GB EmuNAND. Both on my main card.

Just curious, how did you set up a minimal 8gb emunand for SX OS? I run both Atmosphere and SXOS on separate emunands, but they're full size.

 

[mikefor20]

@optimizedc4 Making the switch to Atmosphere is highly recommended.

@mikefor20 and I are in agreement that ReiNX, at this time, is useless. However, unless you just need to be able to launch games off a USB device (and are willing to install an extra emuMMC to do so), SX OS is also useless at this time.

You can't launch newer games using ReiNX or SX OS, since newer games require newer dependencies that are absent from the older system versions required to use ReiNX and SX OS.

Lassie. I said 4GB EmuNAND for SX. I said it's for USB loading only. and i said newer games don't work. This was already stated multiple times. USB loading is well worth 4GB. It is. And as far as compatibility goes, there are over 3000 compatible games. Plenty. And its nice to have hot swappable massive storage. It is. If you dont want it ,don't use it. But SX is FAR from useless and should be presented as an option. I think you can't afford a HDD.

REI on the other hand has zero advantages and is more out of date than SX. No reason to be on a modern setup. USB loading is awesome.

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Just curious, how did you set up a minimal 8gb emunand for SX OS? I run both Atmosphere and SXOS on separate emunands, but they're full size.

I'll link it later. It's called Emutool IIRC.

 

[Lacius]

Lassie.

That is not my name, and it's clear what you're trying to do by using it. I recommend you stop.

Lassie. I said 4GB EmuNAND for SX. I said it's for USB loading only. and i said newer games don't work. This was already stated multiple times. USB loading is well worth 4GB. It is. And as far as compatibility goes, there are over 3000 compatible games. Plenty. And its nice to have hot swappable massive storage. It is. If you dont want it ,don't use it. But SX is FAR from useless and should be presented as an option. I think you can't afford a HDD.

REI on the other hand has zero advantages and is more out of date than SX. No reason to be on a modern setup. USB loading is awesome.

You and I are in agreement that there's a use for SX OS if one absolutely needs to use USB loading, if one is willing to use an extra emuMMC, and if one understands that SX OS cannot be used with newer games. I'm struggling to find where we disagree.

I think you can't afford a HDD.

HDD space is generally cheaper than SD space. I assume that's why some, like yourself, want to use USB loading in the first place.

I personally recommended spending a little extra money on a 512GB or 1TB microSD card for the convenience of not having to worry about the USB storage device, not having to worry about swapping between custom firmwares, and not having to have an extra emuMMC, but it's a matter of personal preference.

For comparison, you can get a 512GB microSD card for about the same price as a 2TB USB HDD (the prices become more comparable if we talk about an SSD). However, I play a lot of Switch games, and my entire library (including DLC and updates) is approximately 347GB, so I personally don't even need the added space of a USB HDD.

 

[M7L7NK7]

Don't even bother, you'll just get condescending replies.. it's just like 6 months ago

 

[Lacius]

Don't even bother, you'll just get condescending replies.. it's just like 6 months ago

Aside from the "Lassie" he always uses when he futilely tries to elicit a negative emotional response, he seems to be behaving himself with me so far. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[mikefor20]

Don't even bother, you'll just get condescending replies.. it's just like 6 months ago

You know you are the one stating opinions as fact and posting condescending troll remarks. You have added nothing to the conversation. Also, as usual, no respect to me or the truth. Now about that bridge...

Aside from the "Lassie" he always uses when he futilely tries to elicit a negative emotional response, he seems to be behaving himself with me so far. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Actually, Lassie, I am not trying to illicit any emotion responses from you. I just give respect where due. I know you can read because you repeat propaganda very well but you don't seem to grasp everything. Hence your "Unless you setup an EmuMMC" comment. I talked about making a 4GB EmuNAND and stated it's just for USB loading. And yes, as I already stated, HDD is FAR cheaper per GB. Thanks for repeating what I said and pretending you came up with it. That's nice.

Once again boys and girls, IF you want to run multiple OS then SX is the only one to consider. Ubuntu and Android is fun as well. REI, kosmos and the like are garbage. They are atmosphere that is less maintained and bloated out. And REI is way out of date. SXOS costs 4GB for a minimal EmuNAND. That's smaller than a lot of single games. Way smaller. It is well worth the footprint to hot swap USB devices.. And it's free. There is no drawback and multi boot is cool. I like having all options implemented. ALL the bells and whistles.

That way I can get the most potential out of the switch. Any argument to that is pure trolling. Please refrain.

Just curious, how did you set up a minimal 8gb emunand for SX OS? I run both Atmosphere and SXOS on separate emunands, but they're full size.

I think this is it.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/emutool...r-sd-switch-emu-type-on-sxos-and-more.550756/

been a while 4GB is the smallest I have used. Might want 8GB. I figure if you use Super XCI then go 4GB since you have no need to install updates. If you want pure XCI than 8GB to fit some updates.

 

[Lacius]

Actually, Lassie, I am not trying to illicit any emotion responses from you. I just give respect where due. I know you can read because you repeat propaganda very well but you don't seem to grasp everything. Hence your "Unless you setup an EmuMMC" comment. I talked about making a 4GB EmuNAND and stated it's just for USB loading. And yes, as I already stated, HDD is FAR cheaper per GB. Thanks for repeating what I said and pretending you came up with it. That's nice.

Once again boys and girls, IF you want to run multiple OS then SX is the only one to consider. Ubuntu and Android is fun as well. REI, kosmos and the like are garbage. They are atmosphere that is less maintained and bloated out. And REI is way out of date. SXOS costs 4GB for a minimal EmuNAND. That's smaller than a lot of single games. Way smaller. It is well worth the footprint to hot swap USB devices.. And it's free. There is no drawback and multi boot is cool. I like having all options implemented. ALL the bells and whistles.

You and I seem to be in agreement that ReiNX is useless. You and I also seem to be in agreement that one can use SX OS to launch games off a USB storage device if they are willing to install an extra emuMMC and do lot of swapping between custom firmwares and eMMC's, since SX OS is incompatible with any system version higher than 11.0.0 and is incompatible with newer games.

 

[mikefor20]

@optimizedc4 Making the switch to Atmosphere is highly recommended.

@mikefor20 and I are in agreement that ReiNX, at this time, is useless. However, unless you just need to be able to launch games off a USB device (and are willing to install an extra emuMMC to do so), SX OS is also useless at this time.

You can't launch newer games using ReiNX or SX OS, since newer games require newer dependencies that are absent from the older system versions required to use ReiNX and SX OS.

There are like 3 real games and a handful of shovelware that SX can't launch at this point. Most were developed on 11.0 SDK or prior and run fine. You may have to take away the firmware requirement but they run.

You and I seem to be in agreement that ReiNX is useless. You and I also seem to be in agreement that one can use SX OS to launch games off a USB storage device if they are willing to install an extra emuMMC and do lot of swapping between custom firmwares and eMMC's, since SX OS is incompatible with any system version higher than 11.0.0 and is incompatible with newer games.

What are you talking about? Swapping FW.? To switch between the two is easy. And intuitive. FastCFWswitch is great once you set it up, and it's easy to setup. SXOS at this point is for USB archival. like I said. And you only need a 4GB EmuMMC. That's NOTHING.

What are you trying to argue?

 

[Lacius]

There are like 3 real games and a handful of shovelware that SX can't launch at this point. Most were developed on 11.0 SDK or prior and run fine. You may have to take away the firmware requirement but they run.

You're right, but as we move into the future, a larger percentage of newly released games will be incompatible with SX OS.

Swapping FW.? To switch between the two is easy. And intuitive. FastCFWswitch is great once you set it up, and it's easy to setup. SXOS at this point is for USB archival. like I said. And you only need a 4GB EmuMMC. That's NOTHING.

Regardless of how inconvenient one does/doesn't find it, using SX OS requires one to use an extra emuMMC and swap between custom firmwares and eMMC's depending on one's needs. If someone wants to play an older game from the USB storage device, swap into SX OS. If someone wants to play a newer game, swap into Atmosphere on a separate emuMMC. If someone wants to play online with a legitimately purchased game, swap into the sysMMC. For some, it may require keeping a list of what games are installed where to avoid having to swap around to find the right game.

 

[Detroitguy22]

You keep misspelling sx there's a u in between the s and x lmao

SuX is dead and its just you defending them lmfaoooo 420 lol so edgy