Three Wuhan lab researchers were hospitalized in November 2019

[Darth Meteos]

No, I'm saying that America is a land mass & doesn't vote for anyone.

this argument is semantics and beneath what i've come to expect from you

 

[smf]

this argument is semantics and beneath what i've come to expect from you

No, it's an argument against dehumanizing people by saying they are all the same and referring to them only by the name of the country they are from.

I don't care what you expect, you've proved yourself to be rude and clueless.

 

[tabzer]

No, it's an argument against dehumanizing people by saying they are all the same and referring to them only by the name of the country they are from.

The reference is to the country. If I say "China" and you think "all Chinese" people, then you are the one making that cognitive bridge (leap).

 

[smf]

America (aka the US) is a political territory.

Right, it's a country made up of 50 states. Each states representatives aren't responsible for the actions of the other states representative or for the actions of the citizens in each state. The citizens aren't responsible for the actions of the federal government.

The reference is to the country. If I say "China" and you think "all Chinese" people, then you are the one making that cognitive bridge (leap).

Well as China cannot be responsible as it's a country, who exactly do you hold responsible?

Are you claiming, though, that people are not responsible for their government?

You seem to be arguing against yourself now.

 

[tabzer]

Well as China cannot be responsible as it's a country, who exactly do you hold responsible?

The Chinese government defines its territory as China (or at least that is how it is translated into English), so I would assume the Chinese government. Is that racist or dehumanizing?

 

[smf]

The Chinese government defines its territory as China (or at least that is how it is translated into English), so I would assume the Chinese government. Is that racist or dehumanizing?

No, you can name a country. But it's just land, it doesn't do anything other than provide resources for the people who live on it.

Blaming a country is like when rather than calling someone by their name, you call them by a derogatory nick name based on their heritage.

If you have a problem with the CCP then say you have a problem with the CCP, if it's a particular company then blame the company. You can't blame a country, whether it's the land or all the people on it.

What you find is when you stop dehumanizing people it makes you more compassionate and less right wing.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

ROFL. smf would call white bread racist. I wouldn't bother with him.

 

[tabzer]

Are you claiming, though, that people are not responsible for their government?

You seem to be arguing against yourself now.

It was a genuine curiosity, not posturing or an argument.

No, you can name a country.

A country is a political territory. "Land" does not inherently convey a political statement.

Blaming a country is like when rather than calling someone by their name, you call them by a derogatory nick name based on their heritage.

I don't understand how you are thinking.

 

[PiracyForTheMasses]

No, it's an argument against dehumanizing people by saying they are all the same and referring to them only by the name of the country they are from.

I don't care what you expect, you've proved yourself to be rude and clueless.

You do NOT know the definition of dehumanizing. Dehumanization has absolutely nothing what so ever to do with the stupidity coming out of your mouth.

 

[weatMod]

No it's not a really ridiculous argument. What's a really ridiculous argument is believing what a bunch of random people on Twitter have to say about it. However, even if China did let a select few know about the virus back in October 2019 they still didn't tell most of the world for a month or so. When applied common sense would dictate that you know I wasn't talking in absolutes, and even if you're a tad bit slow my revised statement stands - China hid COVID from most of the world for over a month.

no it is you who are slow , they hid nothing because this was planned by the WEF and nearly every government was in on the plan , see event 201

 

[SG854]

no it is you who are slow , they hid nothing because this was planned by the WEF and nearly every government was in on the plan , see event 201

Did you read the full article from the Twitter thread you linked?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-al...disease-outbreak-in-china-in-november-report/


It said that there was no such report that exists of them knowing about the corona virus in 2019. The article is not definitive proof that they knew the virus existed early on. It's just claims without proof.



Event 201 did not predict covid pandemic. It was just a simulation to see what a covid like pandemic would be like. It was done since there has been an uptick in sars like viruses. Which happens to coincidentally be right before covid hit.

https://fullfact.org/health/event-201-coronavirus-pandemic/

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really ridiculous argument US, Trump, and Israel knew about it just as long as the CCP
as you can see here
https://twitter.com/hashtag/israelinnovember

In fact all UN member states governments knew about it because they all signed on to its release under economic agreement from the World Economic Forum, ,World Banks and IMF
see event 201 and the great reset world economic forum.

the evidence of foreknowledge if right out in the open just like it always is

I have my own anecdotal experience too, I have someone in my family who was warned in October 2019
they used to work for Goldman Sachs but now work for UBS , they make 7 figures
and have a place in NY and have some extremely high profile celebrity neighbors as well as other properties

they got some kind of a tip off and were all prepped for this in October of 2019
They were already all stocked up on TP and shelf stable food in October

If all the UN members knew about it then that means all these countries didn't react earlier which would mean they all have blood on there hands. They could've better handled the pandemic but didn't. They were almost as bad as Trump.



Also you timeline seems off

The who sent out this tweet in January 14 2020

Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG

— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) January 14, 2020

If they knew about the virus and it's effects back in November of 2019 why would the who sent out this tweet? Thats being pretty reckless and could've prevented many deaths if they reacted sooner. Your comment just does not make any sense.

 

[Darth Meteos]

The reference is to the country. If I say "China" and you think "all Chinese" people, then you are the one making that cognitive bridge (leap).

i hate it when you're right

No, it's an argument against dehumanizing people by saying they are all the same and referring to them only by the name of the country they are from.

Spoiler: Oh man...

China did it just like America elected Trump.

This is tabzer agreeing with the content of your post. He was affirming that:

"China" didn't, the chinese government tried to keep a lid on it

... is an accurate statement. Referring to the broad actions of a country on a macro scale is what tabzer is doing, but you are engaging in semantics to try and own him. You accidentally baited tabzer into saying some dumb shit right after that, (insinuating that the Chinese people are responsible for the actions of their government) but you were initially being semantic, which I called out.

Reducing people to a country is a way of dehumanizing them, don't trust anyone who does that.

This is what I'm talking about. When referring to the macro actions of the ruling power of a country is engaging in, it is perfectly acceptable to say "America did this," etc.
"America attacked Iraq in an illegal war," for example, is an accurate statement. Responding to that with "uh ackshually, america is a landmass," is semantic nonsense.

I don't care what you expect, you've proved yourself to be rude and clueless.

Calling me clueless when I stated nothing related to the subject in my message to you and, indeed, being broadly in agreement with most of what you have posted in this thread(!) is disappointing. Calling you out for making a shit argument ≠ calling you incorrect on the substantive issues.

 

[tabzer]

(insinuating that the Chinese people are responsible for the actions of their government)

Some people think that a country's people are responsible for its government. I was genuinely curious and I clarified that. It wasn't an insinuation. I am personally uncertain.

 

[Darth Meteos]

Some people think that a country's people are responsible for its government. I was genuinely curious and I clarified that. It wasn't an insinuation. I am personally uncertain.

thank the lord
no, mate, no, the chinese people under a dictatorship are not responsible for their government
china is a place horribly repressed by its leaders

 

[tabzer]

thank the lord
no, mate, no, the chinese people under a dictatorship are not responsible for their government
china is a place horribly repressed by its leaders

If there is a revolution, it would be because of such conviction. I don't imagine it happening, but I do imagine people holding the sentiment.

 

[smf]

Calling me clueless when I stated nothing related to the subject in my message to you and, indeed, being broadly in agreement with most of what you have posted in this thread(!) is disappointing. Calling you out for making a shit argument ≠ calling you incorrect on the substantive issues.

Just because you broadly agree with me doesn't mean you aren't clueless.

You're suffering from black and white thinking, which is what I expect from you.

 

[weatMod]

Did you read the full article from the Twitter thread you linked?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-al...disease-outbreak-in-china-in-november-report/


It said that there was no such report that exists of them knowing about the corona virus in 2019. The article is not definitive proof that they knew the virus existed early on. It's just claims without proof.



Event 201 did not predict covid pandemic. It was just a simulation to see what a covid like pandemic would be like. It was done since there has been an uptick in sars like viruses. Which happens to coincidentally be right before covid hit.

https://fullfact.org/health/event-201-coronavirus-pandemic/

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If all the UN members knew about it then that means all these countries didn't react earlier which would mean they all have blood on there hands. They could've better handled the pandemic but didn't. They were almost as bad as Trump.



Also you timeline seems off

The who sent out this tweet in January 14 2020

https://mobile.twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152



If they knew about the virus and it's effects back in November of 2019 why would the who sent out this tweet? Thats being pretty reckless and could've prevented many deaths if they reacted sooner. Your comment just does not make any sense.

I don't believe it is a coincidence
I believe they do have blood on their hands
the WEF has been saying for years leading up to COVID they want a "great reset" of the world economy something that COVID has help to accomplish
Bayer knew that factor 8 was infected HIV and still sold it to children in Europe and gave them all AIDS
you think people do not do bad things , you think big pharma has any ethics?
Tuskegee, MK ultra (dosing people with LSD without their knowledge,

by January 14th 2020 it was all over the internet that there was a deadly epidemic in China it was not secret at all
of course China and WHO did their part to conceal it because they wanted it to spread.
I was well aware of it on January 14th and I had already assumed it was everywhere I was already wearing a respirator with p100 filters by then.

I have someone in my family ,(through marriage) who works on Wall St. and who,lives in NY and CT
they worked for GS and now work for UBS , they make 7 figures and live in the West Village and have some very high profile neighbors , one was in a classic movie about and unstable nightime livery driver
the other is a famous fashion editor who had a movie made about her , a certain red horned figure who wears a certain brand of high end footwear , lives nextdoor

well they got some kind of tip off back in October of 2019 that there was going to be a pandemic and were told to prep
they were already stocked up in October with TP ,shelf stable food ,etc.
this was extended to their immediate family who they provided prep items for
this warning was not passed to me and I didn't hear about it until about late March when things were already in full swing here in the US

I have not seen this person since COVID started to ask them the details but this anecdotal story backs up the WEF event 201 being more than just a coincidence , people knew because this was a deliberate act

 

[Darth Meteos]

Just because you broadly agree with me doesn't mean you aren't clueless.

You're suffering from black and white thinking, which is what I expect from you.

implicitly calling yourself clueless in one hand, refusing to take an l in the pettiest fashion possible in the other
yup, i'm done here

 

[Deleted member 559230]

I don't believe it is a coincidence
I believe they do have blood on their hands
the WEF has been saying for years leading up to COVID they want a "great reset" of the world economy something that COVID has help to accomplish
Bayer knew that factor 8 was infected HIV and still sold it to children in Europe and gave them all AIDS
you think people do not do bad things , you think big pharma has any ethics?
Tuskegee, MK ultra (dosing people with LSD without their knowledge,

by January 14th 2020 it was all over the internet that there was a deadly epidemic in China it was not secret at all
of course China and WHO did their part to conceal it because they wanted it to spread.
I was well aware of it on January 14th and I had already assumed it was everywhere I was already wearing a respirator with p100 filters by then.

I have someone in my family ,(through marriage) who works on Wall St. and who,lives in NY and CT
they worked for GS and now work for UBS , they make 7 figures and live in the West Village and have some very high profile neighbors , one was in a classic movie about and unstable nightime livery driver
the other is a famous fashion editor who had a movie made about her , a certain red horned figure who wears a certain brand of high end footwear , lives nextdoor

well they got some kind of tip off back in October of 2019 that there was going to be a pandemic and were told to prep
they were already stocked up in October with TP ,shelf stable food ,etc.
this was extended to their immediate family who they provided prep items for
this warning was not passed to me and I didn't hear about it until about late March when things were already in full swing here in the US

I have not seen this person since COVID started to ask them the details but this anecdotal story backs up the WEF event 201 being more than just a coincidence , people knew because this was a deliberate act

Word about COVID-19 (the Chinese virus / Wuhan Coronavirus) hit the Internet early November 2019 so I find it completely feasible that some intelligent agencies were aware that there was a new coronavirus in Wuhan a few weeks prior to the news breaking. Did they think it was a global threat? I'm not sure, but that could explain a few people in those circles being warned it could possibly become a global pandemic.

I've also heard a right wing theory that the deep state (Obama's, Clinton's and Soros) had China engineer the pandemic to use as political fodder to oust Trump from office, but I give that theory as much credit as I give your Twitter sources.

 

[weatMod]

Word about COVID-19 (the Chinese virus / Wuhan Coronavirus) hit the Internet early November 2019 so I find it completely feasible that some intelligent agencies were aware that there was a new coronavirus in Wuhan a few weeks prior to the news breaking. Did they think it was a global threat? I'm not sure, but that could explain a few people in those circles being warned it could possibly become a global pandemic.

I've also heard a right wing theory that the deep state (Obama's, Clinton's and Soros) had China engineer the pandemic to use as political fodder to oust Trump from office, but I give that theory as much credit as I give your Twitter sources.

the source was not twitter it was just a trending hashtag
of course that is a ridiculous theory it has nothing to do with Trump h was as controlled as the rest of them ,
didn't accomplish anything he promised except what he promised for israel wow what a shocker
didn't "lock her up" didn't "build a wall" didn't "repeal Obama care" I could go on all day
COVD was for the "great reset" to help fulfil the "sustainable development goals" which are
just an excuse for a totalitarian technocratic society where every single resource is metered and rationed
world communism through AI just like Elon Musks common gutter snipe of a GF/wife baby momma?
eluded to in her tweet