Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Cryoraptor]

This thread is becoming a toxic construct. We should build a wall between us so we can start to heal.

Any thread like this devolves into toxic 'no you' and 'but what about x' eventually in the modern political climate. It's inevitable.

 

[Frankfort42]

Also, Wikipedia seems to disagree with your statement (is Wikipedia leftist propaganda too?):

"A December 2020 poll showed 77% of Republicans believe widespread fraud occurred during the election. 35% of independent voters also said they believe widespread voter fraud took place. Overall, 60% of Americans believed Biden's win was legitimate, 34% did not, and 6% were unsure. Another poll taken in late December showed a similar result, with 62% of Americans polled believing Biden was the legitimate winner of the election, while 37% did not. This split in popular opinion remained largely stable, with a January 10, 2021, poll commissioned by ABC News showing 68% of Americans believed Biden’s win was legitimate and 32% did not."

Actually, anything on Wikipedia related to politics is mainly written by the Liberal left and good luck getting anything added that promotes Conservatism. The Liberals have the political articles on Wikipedia under lock and key. So yes, Wikipedia's is bias as fuck in that regard.

For your poll, it's wrong.

so we can start to heal

I won't be participating in this "healing" with the Left. Count me out.

 

[Cryoraptor]

even if genetic hermaphrodicity is a defect, that doesn't make it any less real

I'm not denying that it's real, but it can't be a third sex by definition. It's an ambiguous mix between the two and it's up to the person to decide what their gender identity is.

and we both know the "biological sexes" argument frankfort was making was an excuse to shit on gender identity- he probably doesn't even know the difference

Most likely. I'm not responding to him anymore because he's quite obviously a troll to me.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I'm not denying that it's real, but it can't be a third sex by definition. It's an ambiguous mix between the two and it's up to the person to decide what their gender identity is.


Most likely.

fair point

Actually, anything on Wikipedia related to politics is mainly written by the Liberal left and good luck getting anything added that promotes Conservatism. The Liberals have the political articles on Wikipedia under lock and key. So yes, Wikipedia's is bias as fuck in that regard.
I won't be participating in this "healing" with the Left. Count me out.

1) ah yes, "Wikipedia's is bias as fuck". such perfect grammar. backed up with such brilliant reasoning as "my opinions aren't displayed as facts, so the facts must be wrong since they don't fit with my opinions", too!
2) of course you won't. you're part of the reason that said healing is nigh impossible on a national scale.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

I won't be participating in this "healing" with the Left. Count me out.

Time for an oldie but goodie.I bet you're real fun at parties!

Thanks for admitting to be a very huge part of the problem. Clap clap.

 

[Plasmaster09]

Clap clap, slap slap, Trumpers' tantrums full o' crap,
So full o' themselves that their main hobby is taking a f-
*gets tossed out a window*

but seriously yeah these guys are trolls

 

[Cryoraptor]

but seriously yeah these guys are trolls

To be honest though, we're partly in on it. We want them to keep responding so we can keep fishing for signature-worthy quotes

 

[Plasmaster09]

To be honest though, we're partly in on it. We want them to keep responding so we can keep fishing for signature-worthy quotes

Not only do ya got me there, but ya got me there.
also some of the ones we've already grabbed... wow
it shows that tabzer and crew are the rare venn-diagram overlap between people that could be described as a "wannabe Machiavelli" and the people so stupid they think Machiavelli is something you order at Starbucks

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

Not what I'm talking about. 2 million votes dispersed throughout the country will not flip any states apart from maybe Georgia, but Biden isn't relying on Georgia anyway. He would still have 290 electoral college votes, ergo he still wins by 20.

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?


It doesn't matter what you think. It's an objective fact that he was the first to yell 'STOP THE COUNT' on twitter, and was also the first to mention anything about mail ballots. As you've previously demonstrated though, you suffer from Creationist Fallacy so your claims are automatically true and what you think is more important than what any evidence says.


And how exactly is he meant to do that when he's not president yet?


So you agree that your 'election rigging' nonsense is as idiotic as the claim that Russia is the reason Trump won in 2016?*

*Note: I'm not denying that Russia attempted to intefere, but that inteference was not the reason for Trump's victory. I'm not gonna defend Russia though considering its complete lack of respect for democracy and human rights.


I personally have trouble with your thought process. The burden of proof is on you to prove the claim you are making. Again, Creationist Fallacy.

Some states were won by as little as 5,000 votes. So illegitimate votes being discarded 100% could swing the election.

 

[Lacius]

Some states were won by as little as 5,000 votes. So illegitimate votes being discarded 100% could swing the election.

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

Sure there isn't

 

[White_Raven_X]

As a world leader you have to look to build constructive relationships as much as possible, and never be the aggressor. If you publicly condemn countries and other world leaders, you are a bad leader and you're taking your country into a cave. Ironically, that's what makes Trump such a bad politician

I agree with that. Your right, that's why I say that it's bad what Trump did in regards to Russia, China and North Korea. "Standing firm against them" does not mean condemning them more publicly, but just "not supporting their agenda". Trump is the one who is responsible for putting Kim Jung Hun on the world stage... Trump is the one responsible for screwing up the economy with China, they don't buy as much from Canada and the US anymore. Essentially making other countries ties stronger. That screwed alot of farmers and goods exporters.
Now Putin has taken over many American servers as Trump has been looking the other way. Not to mention Trump has been soft on Putin 37 times (source https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html) Putin has exactly what it wanted, the weakening of American democracy, abandoned international climate and nuclear arms agreements, withdrawal from the World Health Organization, speaking against his own intelligence team and proposing to let Russia back into the G7.... I can go on and on here....

TRUMP fucked up, Big time! The fact that Joe Biden will get us all out of this shit in 4 years will be amazing! He's got alot of work ahead and he has the most amazing team to get those things done!

 

[Plasmaster09]

Sure there isn't

no there seriously isn't
when even freaking FRANKFORT42, the dictionary definition of "wingnut", has the sanity to admit there is no evidence of widespread election fraud, you're clearly even crazier to suggest there is

 

[Cryoraptor]

Some states were won by as little as 5,000 votes. So illegitimate votes being discarded 100% could swing the election.

You avoided the question I put to you. I'll put it here again:

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?

Please answer it this time.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

I agree with that. Your right, that's why I say that it's bad what Trump did in regards to Russia, China and North Korea. "Standing firm against them" does not mean condemning them more publicly, but just "not supporting their agenda". Trump is the one who is responsible for putting Kim Jung Hun on the world stage... Trump is the one responsible for screwing up the economy with China, they don't buy as much from Canada and the US anymore. Essentially making other countries ties stronger. That screwed alot of farmers and goods exporters.
Now Putin has taken over many American servers as Trump has been looking the other way. Not to mention Trump has been soft on Putin 37 times (source https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html) Putin has exactly what it wanted, the weakening of American democracy, abandoned international climate and nuclear arms agreements, withdrawal from the World Health Organization, speaking against his own intelligence team and proposing to let Russia back into the G7.... I can go on and on here....

TRUMP fucked up, Big time! The fact that Joe Biden will get us all out of this shit in 4 years will be amazing! He's got alot of work ahead and he has the most amazing team to get those things done!

Ok, fair enough, we're on the same page.

 

[Plasmaster09]

You avoided the question I put to you. I'll put it here again:

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?

Please answer it this time.

^This. Can't fathom why all the Trumpers are assuming there's widespread fraud when even if every single bit of shitty little anecdotal 'evidence' they have is true, he still would've lost. And even if those 2 million allegedly fraudulent votes were, erm, conveniently gerrymandered into the best possible spots for the Trumpers to claim fraud upon, he still SHOULDN'T have won even if he would've.
Also, though I assure you I'm not doubting 2016's electoral integrity, keep in mind he lost the popular vote by a good couple few million then too.
Is it that hard to imagine Trump... losing? Anything? And suffering the consequences of it, for the first time in his miserable little life?

 

[UltraSUPRA]

You avoided the question I put to you. I'll put it here again:

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?

Please answer it this time.

"mob rule good"

 

[Lacius]

Sure there isn't

What is the single best piece of evidence that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election?

"mob rule good"

"Mob rule" is what conservatives yell when they are backed into the corner of arguing against democracy, and it's embarrassing.

 

[Plasmaster09]

"mob rule good"

ah yes
actual fucking democracy = mobocracy
gotta love that brilliant republican equivalency

 

[Cryoraptor]

"mob rule good"

So you fundamentally disagree with democracy?

 

[UltraSUPRA]

"Mob rule" is what conservatives yell when they are backed into the corner of arguing against democracy, and it's embarrassing.

We are a constitutional republic.