He never said he was a saint. But he certainly ain't a devil either. His intentions weren't to mislead people but to defend himself and the whole of Libretro through the BS TX pulled. I don't get how he's deceptive and witholding. In fact you've described TX for this entire thread.
I've been shitting on TX this entire thread for taking FOSS and putting it into a commercial product...
Youre right about this, but also TX isnt giving more either. So the logs clearly arent going to point m4x as evil and them as being wrongly accused or they would happily show them. I dont want to make any assumptions of what the logs show, but I know RA did post some stuff and deleted it when TX asked them to which speaks volumes. I didnt manage to catch what was posted but if TX personally asked them to delete it, it clearly wasnt anything good for them.
Heh, "small snippet.". It's real tho.
He is just some PR guy, but yea. Fuck this community. Not gonna lie, I said it often enough, like.. literally daily.
Also I can live with them leaking the whole log if they want their reputation to go even lower.^^
As someone who did see it: It was a rant against the Switch scene and against Team Xecuter specifically as well as a warning to not let this scene end up like some others and warning Xecuters developers to get out while they can.
Someone could post the full logs, since you say that they show he came and demanded more money and is throwing a fit since he didnt get it, but you wont post *all* of the logs with full context to show that that is true.
What are you proving here? I read his post. I have read every single post of his on here and on reddit. m4x is disingenuous. Perform all the mental gymnastics you want in order to defend him getting in bed with TX for months, but the fact is that it happened. "I was only trying to see how low they would stoop" can be accomplished without months of work (no clue if m4x wrote a single line of code), coordination, and chatting about their plans.
In my opinion, they don't want a huge mess comprised of real drama, identities, and repercussions to unfold (and badly hurt both parties). Seems pretty clear to me that struck a deal with m4x to stfu (and boy has he SHUT THE FUCK UP, huh?) before the logs are posted...
Oh, you're back again so fast. garyopa is not some upper echelon of TX (despite people looking way too far into the drunken usage of "we" in his post). He refuted (not debunked, that would require, you know, proof) garyopa and only garyopa.
Weren't you saying that even m4x (who worked with TX for months), didn't have the "knowledge of TX" to be making credible threats of dox, law enforcement, etc.? Now all of a sudden, RA does? I'm sure the post was full of drama from the X360 scene, the previous TX owner, the developers, the arrests, the associates of the TX owner and his past ventures, etc.
Didn't he say he wasn't there? He was just the messenger, and not part of "the team" that m4x constantly references? He posted his full Discord logs, and to my understanding, that is the extent of his contact with m4x.
I'm not in the business of reputting up posts by other users on this forum. There's no threats of any kind of the stuff you just mentioned. It's a warning and an implied accusation that TX aren't very good people (which is what the warning is about).
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But the headache is all theirs, right? TX? Why would RA get a headache for speaking the "truth?" Not buying it. The 3 parties are silent because doing this in public would be stupid and messy. That means they are/were for sure speaking in private about everyone shutting up (and it would appear they all agreed to do so)
Both sides made claims, both need to back up their claims. TX didnt just say that RA isnt telling the truth, they also made claims about m4x coming to them, demanding money and then leaving when it wasnt enough. You say they posted proof but they didnt. The proof posted was just proof that m4x was interested in working with them at one point, and then he backed out when he realized they wanted him to use code thats not his to use. Im not saying m4x is completely in the right because I dont have the logs and everything, but its clear both sides either think posting logs is futile or would make them look bad.Quick question @Essasetic - why does TX have to provide evidence at all in the first place? It was the RA twitter starting drama and slinging accusations, talking about how after MONTHS, m4x finally agreed to "side with" RA instead of TX.
The evidence TX did provide ("fuck the community"), was NOT refuted/debunked/disproved by m4x. He admitted it, showed surprise they have logs, then got reeeeeeealllllyyy quiet. He knows they could cherry-pick even more quotes, I'm sure, and again that's why I believe they all formed a truce.
m4x, if you're 100% in the right with your accusations against TX, why form a truce with them? What does m4x have to lose, if he's been completely honest with RA and the community? Nothing. But, if he's been dishonest, like I believe? oof
"they" = drunken garyopa (TX mouthpiece who probably had a general idea of what happened, but I would put $1000 on him never being in the chat room with m4x). The TX higher-up who told garyopa the story should have written up the post themselves, instead of having garyopa regurgitate it from memory
Don't see that anywhere in the 42 pages of this thread. It took him from June to October to realize that?
Me: "I'm quite certain the logs and proof that TX have [in their possession, but not publicly posted]"
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Because otherwise everyone would be all up in their asses screaming at them. Which they failed to do and thus leaves another milestone of "how TX fucked up".
Yeah no. Retroarch only mentioned it as a "fun little story" before the release of Retroarch 1.7.5 for the switch. And also for months? You are kidding right? TX contacted M4xw over an OpenGL build. And last time I checked OpenGL got ported around last month to homebrew and has only just got ported like a few weeks ago to RetroNX.It was the RA twitter starting drama and slinging accusations, talking about how after MONTHS, m4x finally agreed to "side with" RA instead of TX.
Ok. So garyopa over there provided an essay worth of BS at first and his best excuse was that he was "drunk". Then a PR manager for TX came out with snippets of the log which M4xw did admit but also countered with his own log. Also last time I checked M4xw has been way more active than the people at TX on this thread. So yeah BS points on that.
Like I said. He ain't a saint. He isn't going to be 100% honest all the time. That's human nature. Even if M4xw was lying TX has already been spouting out BS claim after BS claim. However I'll let M4xw finish off the question if you so desperately want him to answer after you pinged him over a million times.
Headache as in TX starting to irritate RA by ignoring them by say, spamming their mailbox with requests to remove it. At least, that's how I saw it.
In the discord logs that were posted (first by xiaNaix then by m4x) he states that he backed out because as the talks went on, they started telling him to "borrow a little code here and there" and he wouldnt backstab the RA team. I cant tell you for a fact thats true, but theres no reason to believe TX's story over those screen shots.Don't see that anywhere in the 42 pages of this thread. It took him from June to October to realize that?
Someone hasn't been keeping up, AT ALL. Contact established June 28th, m4x excited to work with TX, gives email. Logs posted from August saying "fuck the community," m4x concedes he said that and the logs are real. Discord chat picking back up in October to talk about the drama. The very definition of months.
He will never speak, and you're shilling harder for m4x than anyone in the last 10 pages. Take a step back and fucking be objective (oh, and try reading the full context so you can grasp the timeline)
