Hardware Joy Cons reported choppy when blocked by hand

[thorasgar]

Blunty has a short video splainin gamexsplain.

We are water and water blocks radio waves.

 

[Tigran]

Ah. So I guess the better question would be, what's up with current gen controllers in general?

That one is -most- likely that they are using low power to attempt to make the controllers last longer. The DS4's only last.. what? 1 to 2 hours before dying? And the Xbone doesn't even have rechargable batteries so it's a bit harder for me to test on them.

The wanted battery life in the joycons were to be between 20 to 40 hours. However Nintendo may have to increase the bluetooth power output to compensate. However this -should- only be a problem if you completely cover the controller like Andre from Gamexplain did.. Or have the system to far away. Remember it's using the low power bluetooth, not the normal one, and my Pokemon Go plus can't get far from my phone without disconnecting.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Can't go through water.. which is 70 percent of a person.

Do a little research.

http://www.societyofrobots.com/robotforum/index.php?topic=8408.0

While I would like to agree (because I already know that), I also will use my previous phone and bluetooth speaker example because I've basically completely covered my phone with my hands before while playing music from a different room, and while yes it did skip every so often it's not nearly as noticeable as what we can see from the switch's joycon
Yes covering it with your body will obviously affect the signal, but the bluetooth in these devices are definitely not as powerful as they could/should be.

 

[Daggot]

Bullshit.

DS4
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=880250


Xbone
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/xboxone-controller-disconnecting-nightmare.454365728/

Have you used the controllers in question? I own both and my friends and I have never had any issue with them nor have I heard widespread complaints about the issues. We'll be able to see if the joycon controllers are shit or not in march.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Have you used the controllers in question? I own both and my friends and I have never had any issue with them nor have I heard widespread complaints about the issues. We'll be able to see if the switch controllers are shit or not in march.

From what I can tell those posts where around launch of the consoles. So likely they did have some sort of issues that were fixed with firmware updates.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Blunty has a short video splainin gamexsplain.

We are water and water blocks radio waves.

Well, yeah... specially at 2.4GHz.
But that has been a fact since always, and gamepads still worked well.
The antenna must be badly designed.

PS: To be precise you are always microwaving yourself by using cellphones, wifi, bluetooth.
So part of the energy dissipates in your water and fat instead of going through.
At least it keeps you warm. /s

 

[Daggot]

From what I can tell those posts where around launch of the consoles. So likely they did have some sort of issues that were fixed with firmware updates.

I hope so.

 

[Tigran]

While I would like to agree (because I already know that), I also will use my previous phone and bluetooth speaker example because I've basically completely covered my phone with my hands before while playing music from a different room, and while yes it did skip every so often it's not nearly as noticeable as what we can see from the switch's joycon
Yes covering it with your body will obviously affect the signal, but the bluetooth in these devices are definitely not as powerful as they could/should be.

Fair question. And I -would- agree with you. But some research seems to be this is an issue with Bluetooth 4.0+ as they try to use very low power saving settings. Which ironicly means Nintendo is not cheaping out on the hardware.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Fair question. And I -would- agree with you. But some research seems to be this is an issue with Bluetooth 4.0+ as they try to use very low power saving settings. Which ironicly means Nintendo is not cheaping out on the hardware.

I honestly think and hope it isn't just the hardware they used. Because that would mean if this actually is a problem it could potentially be fixed with a firmware update.

 

[Tigran]

I honestly think and hope it isn't just the hardware they used. Because that would mean if this actually is a problem it could potentially be fixed with a firmware update.

I am doing some research on this, but I -believe- that theoretically bluetooth 4.0 can have firmware updated.

 

[x65943]

I honestly think and hope it isn't just the hardware they used. Because that would mean if this actually is a problem it could potentially be fixed with a firmware update.

I'm not too worried about it either way. I don't plan on completely covering a joycon with my hand or putting it behind my back.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

I'm not too worried about it either way. I don't plan on completely covering a joycon with my hand or putting it behind my back.

True. I'm honestly going to mostly be using it as a portable anyway where the joycon will be right next to the system.

 

[sarkwalvein]

If the problem is the signal being weak it can also be bothered if there are many strong 2.4GHz signals around you.
Be it too many WiFi users/hotspots, too many bluetooth devices, etc.
I don't think every reviewer that had this problem decided to sleep over his joycon while playing.
Something more common, like an area infested by WiFi networks, is more believable to me.

 

[Tigran]

If the problem is the signal being weak it can also be bothered if there are many strong 2.4GHz signals around you.
Be it too many WiFi users/hotspots, too many bluetooth devices, etc.
I don't think every reviewer that had this problem decided to sleep over his joycon while playing.
Something more common, like an area infested by WiFi networks, is more believable to me.

Nah. Andre at Gamexplain pretty much proved the issue, but again I believe this has more of an issue with the Bluetooth 4.0+ standard than anything.

 

[DeslotlCL]

Nontendo's new gimmick not working as expected?

top kek

 

[Luckkill4u]

Darn I guess I can't use my lead coated gloves with these joycons.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Nah. Andre at Gamexplain pretty much proved the issue, but again I believe this has more of an issue with the Bluetooth 4.0+ standard than anything.

But the issue he proved is exactly that, that the signal is weak.
If it is weak it can be blocked by human tissue, and also bothered by stronger signals in the same frequency range.

 

[Tigran]

Nontendo's new gimmick not working as expected?

top kek

Did you even read like... anything in this thread?

 

[DeslotlCL]

Did you even read like... anything in this thread?

Sure, just wanted to be that one especial guy.

 

[linuxares]

Hmm they use bluetooth 4.0, so it's a lowpowered device. I would guess Nintendo have put it at really lowpowered mode to save battery on the joycons.