Hacking 3DS Recovery Menu in the future?

[Xenon Hacks]

Now that the 3DS bootrom has been dumped and we can from what I understand sign our own stuff, how long do you think it will be until we can replace Nintendo's current recovery menu with our own like the PSP this way we can be brickless (besides MCU stuff)?

 

[RyDog]

isn't that what decrypt9/hourglass9 is for?

 

[Xenon Hacks]

isn't that what decrypt9/hourglass9 is for?

Yes but im very certain we will be moving away from OTP stuff in the near future.

 

[x65943]

Yes but im very certain we will be moving away from OTP stuff in the near future.

Considering the devs said that they had the bootrom last summer, I wouldn't be surprised if they already have something like this privately.

 

[Seriel]

Decrypt9 + A9LH makes a plenty good enough recovery menu

 

[punderino]

Not really. If you're like me, you can fuck up boot0boot1 keys. I know plenty of other people who have too. Bootrom would keep key signatures from being needed, and a recovery menu in boot0 would be safer. It'd be a better way to keep from bricking. We may be able to get faster dumps maybe.

 

[Jayro]

I'd like to know if there's a way to un-cripple the SD reader and wireless card speeds... They're abysmally slow... like, worse than USB v1.1 slow.

 

[Sketchy1]

I'd like to know if there's a way to un-cripple the SD reader and wireless card speeds... They're abysmally slow... like, worse than USB v1.1 slow.

The SD reader isn't exactly crippled or slow, just capped. Its not hardware limitations, its intentionally capped.
And the wireless card isn't crippled either. Just very buggy.

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Not really. If you're like me, you can fuck up boot0boot1 keys. I know plenty of other people who have too. Bootrom would keep key signatures from being needed, and a recovery menu in boot0 would be safer. It'd be a better way to keep from bricking. We may be able to get faster dumps maybe.

True, but that wouldn't exactly offer anything we can't already do...

 

[Jayro]

The SD reader isn't exactly crippled or slow, just capped. Its not hardware limitations, its intentionally capped.

That's what I mean, Nintendo "intentionally capped" the speeds just to be dicks. There's no rhyme or reason it shouldn't be able to go full speed otherwise.

 

[Sketchy1]

That's what I mean, Nintendo "intentionally capped" the speeds just to be dicks. There's no rhyme or reason it shouldn't be able to go full speed otherwise.

And apparently this limitation is also only present on o3ds.

But Im not gonna disagree, I do find it odd that they just decided to cap the speeds for no apparent reason, economical or otherwise

 

[Bu2d85]

What I want to see is modding a console through the system update app.

Imagine a signed CFW that is downloaded directly to your console buy simply changing your dns settings.

It's completely possible. That is how people are updating their psvitas to 3.6 and not the latest update.

 

[Sketchy1]

What I want to see is modding a console through the system update app.

Imagine a signed CFW that is downloaded directly to your console buy simply changing your dns settings.

It's completely possible. That is how people are updating their psvitas to 3.6 and not the latest update.

That would require a primary exploit to set up on a 3ds, but once we have a primary, we wouldn't bother messing with system settings because we would immediately downgrade. Gateway did that as a method launch its cfw, but that's it

 

[Bu2d85]

That would require a primary exploit to set up on a 3ds, but once we have a primary, we wouldn't bother messing with system settings because we would immediately downgrade. Gateway did that as a method launch its cfw, but that's it

Yeah, I don't think you really got what I said.

Once a signed CFW is out in the wild, exploits will no longer be needed. Simply update you console and that's it. Downgrading will be a thing of the past.

 

[Sketchy1]

Yeah, I don't think you really got what I said.

Once a signed CFW is out in the wild, exploits will no longer be needed. Simply update you console and that's it. Downgrading will be a thing of the past.

Lmao no I know what you meant, but I'm saying that even if its released, the system setting app itself would need to actually be exploitable, because Nintendo has the power to patch out these faults. For example, they could simply block out its DNS from being accessible. They have the power to legally do it, because the browser can

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Well then again, in the eyes of a 3ds it does look like any other update pack...

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But they did add the system version blacklist, so that could be a problem preventing this too

 

[Cuphat]

Yeah, I don't think you really got what I said.

Once a signed CFW is out in the wild, exploits will no longer be needed. Simply update you console and that's it. Downgrading will be a thing of the past.

That's not what sighax will allow. Sighax is exploiting a flaw in the bootrom, you still need a way to get your custom code there. The stock 3DS system software is still not vulnerable to "updating" to a CFW.

We'd literally need Nintendo's private keys to do this. I mean, they are incompetent but having that leak is always unlikely.

 

[Sketchy1]

That's not what sighax will allow. Sighax is exploiting a flaw in the bootrom, you still need a way to get your custom code there. The stock 3DS system software is still not vulnerable to "updating" to a CFW.

That too. I was also thinking, he said:

It's completely possible. That is how people are updating their psvitas to 3.6 and not the latest update.

But that's still by definition considered a downgrade, as your essentially just tricking the system into downloading an older update, which is basically just a brick-free downgrade. With the 11.0 blacklist, we can't "update" to anything lower than 11.0

 

[Asia81]

inb4 "pls someone code priiloader boot2 for 3DS pls thanks"

 

[punderino]

The SD reader isn't exactly crippled or slow, just capped. Its not hardware limitations, its intentionally capped.
And the wireless card isn't crippled either. Just very buggy.

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True, but that wouldn't exactly offer anything we can't already do...

Yes? It would? Please find me the way to edit boot0 to not require signed stuff.

 

[Quantumcat]

It's completely possible. That is how people are updating their psvitas to 3.6 and not the latest update.

I think that's only because the HTTP requests for updating are not encrypted on the Vita and we can modify them with Charles Proxy. Not so with 3DS updates.

 

[punderino]

What I want to see is modding a console through the system update app.

Imagine a signed CFW that is downloaded directly to your console buy simply changing your dns settings.

It's completely possible. That is how people are updating their psvitas to 3.6 and not the latest update.

Yeah. Not possible. It would take prior editing to get to work. They encrypt and sign update once they go OTA. You cannot just make a package and sign it and send it OTA. Won't work.