Hacking Why does Fire Emblem IF not work on Sky3DS?

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It will work but first Sky team need to add this game to Template file.
Nope.

It was added back on 06/24, loads onto SKY3DS just fine, shows up on 3DS, but won't launch. (Not even on a true Japan O3DS or N3DS running 9.9.0-26 J)
I don't believe SKY is looking into it anymore (they gave up)
  • * Sky3DS updated template file [06/24/2015]
    Change logs:
1.Fixed some bugs.
2.Added game:
1287 - LEGO Jurassic World (France)
CTR-P-BFYJ2BB3 =Fire Emblem If - Anya Oukoku Fire Emblem If - Black Kingdom JPN
CTR-P-BFXJDE48 =Fire Emblem If - Byakuya Oukoku Fire Emblem If - White Kingdom JPN
CTR-P-BFZJ47EE =Fire Emblem If JPN
 
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It will work but first Sky team need to add this game to Template file.
I don't use Sky3DS, but why do we have to wait on the Sky3DS team to add games to the template. Can't we do that on our own?
Like isn't it as simple as editing a file, or do they buy the game and add specific info that way? I just really don't like the Sky3DS team. Are they Chinese sellers?
 

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I don't use Sky3DS, but why do we have to wait on the Sky3DS team to add games to the template. Can't we do that on our own?
Like isn't it as simple as editing a file, or do they buy the game and add specific info that way? I just really don't like the Sky3DS team. Are they Chinese sellers?
'Cause they have to add unmodified ROM header to emulate real gamecard when GW or CFW can play ROM with any header :D
 
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FE if's incompatible is not a Template problem.

It's a new encryption designed for making it incompatible on Sky3DS.

Sky3DS team didn't have any technology to fix it. They laid it up.
 
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FE if's incompatible is not a Template problem.

It's a new encryption designed for making it incompatible on Sky3DS.

Sky3DS team didn't have any technology to fix it. They laid it up.
Is this confirmed? Will new games also be like this? Why is yaokai watch busters and great ace attorney working? They are released after fire emblem.
 

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Is this confirmed? Will new games also be like this? Why is yaokai watch busters and great ace attorney working? They are released after fire emblem.
....publisher.....nintendo ;)

in the past any new anti-piracy methods are pretty much always applied to nintendo produced, or published titles before they filter through to third party devs...iirc these werre the first games to get 7.x game encryption
- Nintendo Pocket Football Club
- Pokemon Art Academy
- Pokemon Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby
- Tomodachi Life (EU/US)

one thing in common? all developed or published by nintendo
 

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So... if this catches on is the Sky3DS pretty much dead in the water? I'm kind of dubious on if they can come up with a workaround(and if they can it'll probably involve releasing a new version of the Sky3DS cart anyway)
 

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I managed to actually get it working with the sky on rxTools 9.8.0-25U Emunand. Included instructions in readme file. Let me know if this works for you.

STEPS TO PATCHING ROM TO WORK ON SKY3DS - NEED TO BE ABLE TO RUN .CIA FILES FOR NON-JPN EMUNAND


1. Find an original Fire Emblem If Special Edition Rom (Can't link for obvious reasons)


2. Unzip 3dsfix.exe and place the rom in the same folder as this program file.


3. Right click the exe file and select "Properties" then
go to the "Compatibility" tab and check "Run as Administrator" and click "OK"


4. Drag the rom file onto the exe and then a dialog-box will pop up, just close it.


5. Use the included SKY3DS files (Diskwriter, template0730 and setting.ini) and
make sure you use the 'change template' option to select the included template.


6. Find the rom you just patched and inject it into the SKY3DS.


7. On JAP Emunand, you can play this directly, For other regions, you can use the
freemultipatcher tool(8a) or NTR3.0(8b) so the game will run.


8a. Freemultipatcher just install w/FBI or other CIA Installer and run in Emunand with all
options selected 'yes'


8b. Copy all files in NTR folder onto root of SD, then install BootNTR.cia w/FBI or other CIA Installer
and run in emunand.
 

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I managed to actually get it working with the sky on rxTools 9.8.0-25U Emunand. Included instructions in readme file. Let me know if this works for you.

STEPS TO PATCHING ROM TO WORK ON SKY3DS - NEED TO BE ABLE TO RUN .CIA FILES FOR NON-JPN EMUNAND


1. Find an original Fire Emblem If Special Edition Rom (Can't link for obvious reasons)


2. Unzip 3dsfix.exe and place the rom in the same folder as this program file.


3. Right click the exe file and select "Properties" then
go to the "Compatibility" tab and check "Run as Administrator" and click "OK"


4. Drag the rom file onto the exe and then a dialog-box will pop up, just close it.


5. Use the included SKY3DS files (Diskwriter, template0730 and setting.ini) and
make sure you use the 'change template' option to select the included template.


6. Find the rom you just patched and inject it into the SKY3DS.


7. On JAP Emunand, you can play this directly, For other regions, you can use the
freemultipatcher tool(8a) or NTR3.0(8b) so the game will run.


8a. Freemultipatcher just install w/FBI or other CIA Installer and run in Emunand with all
options selected 'yes'


8b. Copy all files in NTR folder onto root of SD, then install BootNTR.cia w/FBI or other CIA Installer
and run in emunand.

Does this really work? I thought the point of the SKY3DS was to run it on a vanilla, fully updated console? At least, according to Neptune, they could just be bad dumps. I'll test this out in a little bit on my Japanese 3ds, but I'm dumping my own copies of Fire Emblem IF (except for the special edition, don't own that) to check to see if it's either the template or the rom dumps.
 

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I managed to actually get it working with the sky on rxTools 9.8.0-25U Emunand. Included instructions in readme file. Let me know if this works for you.

STEPS TO PATCHING ROM TO WORK ON SKY3DS - NEED TO BE ABLE TO RUN .CIA FILES FOR NON-JPN EMUNAND


1. Find an original Fire Emblem If Special Edition Rom (Can't link for obvious reasons)


2. Unzip 3dsfix.exe and place the rom in the same folder as this program file.


3. Right click the exe file and select "Properties" then
go to the "Compatibility" tab and check "Run as Administrator" and click "OK"


4. Drag the rom file onto the exe and then a dialog-box will pop up, just close it.


5. Use the included SKY3DS files (Diskwriter, template0730 and setting.ini) and
make sure you use the 'change template' option to select the included template.


6. Find the rom you just patched and inject it into the SKY3DS.


7. On JAP Emunand, you can play this directly, For other regions, you can use the
freemultipatcher tool(8a) or NTR3.0(8b) so the game will run.


8a. Freemultipatcher just install w/FBI or other CIA Installer and run in Emunand with all
options selected 'yes'


8b. Copy all files in NTR folder onto root of SD, then install BootNTR.cia w/FBI or other CIA Installer
and run in emunand.
Does this method work with RegionFour?
 

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It does not work with ReiNand and RegionSpoofer.

It's the same as without it patching the game ROM at 0x1FE from 03 to 00 (what the 3dsfix.exe does), you can see the game with SKY, but launching = Black Screen.
 

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yeah i guess it could just be a bad dump, or sky3ds messed up when generating the template, i still haven't seen any actual confirmation its definitely anti-piracy stuff........although as i mentioned before new AP stuff often appears on nintendo produced games before any others, so its possible, and if it is more and more games will probably be appearing using it in future, and it is the first game that requires 9.7 minimum so i guess it stands to reason it would have the most current AP protection applied to it

from 3dbrew
0x1FE 0x1 Support for this was implemented with 9.6.0-X FIRM. Bit0=1 enables using bits 1-2, it's unknown what these two bits are actually used for(the value of these two bits get compared with some other value during NCSD verification/loading).
0x1FF 0x1 Support for this was implemented with 9.6.0-X FIRM, see below regarding save crypto.

sounds like probable new AP to me
 

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