Hacking PSA: Unique Cartridge ID Sharing

[barronwaffles]

Yeah that is totally awesome, I bet you can't wait to tell the other kids at school!

 

[groit]

Yeah that is totally awesome, I bet you can't wait to tell the other kids at school!

what? ... so yeah, I was just warning people against paranoid speculation..

 

[CathyRina]

I suppose, but what if the bans take place months after the purchase and poor Jimmy lost his receipt? All the proof he could have is a picture of a cartridge, and then any pirate could easily provide that from a picture skimmed off of Google images.

I recently was the so called poor jimmy by completely loosing access to my blizzard Account. 3 Pictures of my physical Starcraft 2 Copy were enough proof for them to transfer all data onto a new account.
I don't think this would be too hard for Ninty to pull off.

 

[Foxi4]

what? ... so yeah, I was just warning people against paranoid speculation..

Paranoid? Okay, equivalent situation then - you have a pen friend from the other side of the country who needs a verified PayPal account so he asks you to give him your credit card details because he doesn't have one himself for whatever reason. He doesn't have your card, your pin, your account password, he just wants the number - do you give it to him? No, because there can always be this one online shop that'll accept a transaction insecurely and without all the protection mechanism. Hell, you don't know what he'll use that number for - for all you know, he could start buying drugs in your name and it's your fault for giving him your number. You just don't know, but you still won't do it because common sense dictates you shouldn't.

 

[barronwaffles]

Who the hell shares credit card details?

 

[groit]

yeah...

 

[Foxi4]

Who the hell shares credit card details?

Nobody in the universe, that was the whole point of the hyperbole. Say you give someone your Mario Kart ID, he uses it, cheats on a track and gets banned. Let's assume for 5 seconds that it would be an ID ban on top of a Friend Code/NNID ban - you would be banned too in the process even though you didn't cheat. That's well within the realm of possibilities, so we're asking people to be responsible.

 

[lamentofking]

Nobody in the universe, that was the whole point of the hyperbole. Say you give someone your Mario Kart ID, he uses it, cheats on a track and gets banned. Let's assume for 5 seconds that it would be an ID ban on top of a Friend Code/NNID ban - you would be banned too in the process even though you didn't cheat. That's well within the realm of possibilities, so we're asking people to be responsible.

I actually think that is a high possibility once cheat functions are available for online play.

 

[DSAndi]

Dont quite get it. Isnt that only a problem if you want to play online ? So if u need to play online just buy the card and dont buy it 2nd hand.
Actually i never played online with my DS lite and i also dont own a DSi or 3DS.
Actually i kinda dont like online registration Games that need a service to work. In the past a lot games did loose Onlineplay because some Company shuts the service down.
Latest i know is Gamespy, im affected with C&C Generals and other games.
So i got screwed if i want to play it online, now where do i get my money partial back since the most used feature is now taken away ?

 

[smf]

and people work out the numbering system

It's likely signed using public key cryptography & is only ever checked by nintendo themselves. Giving you no access to the public key, private key or the algorithm. So good luck.

 

[Reecey]

Tbh I would of thought this is a standard issue for everyone to take going online! I went down this route soon as I found out GW said about not going online with the same dump twice so having your own personal ID/ Header injected into a rom is at least looking like you are using that game ID online and you cant use the same personal game online at the same time but using the same headers that have been posted on the net is very risky because you could be online on the same game with the same ID up to any amount of players. At least you can pick up a cheap second hand 4GB game and then you have your own ID for life. Happy Days!!! Great Sticky by the way

 

[ScarletCrystals]

If ninty has the capability to track duplicate IDs, it just as likely that they can read which game the ID is meant for and whether it matches. So all this fixation on using self ID is moot since you might STILL be banned. It's ridiculous to assert that getting your own ID is going to protect you from being banned.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Time to go to Gamestop, buy a used 3DS game, dump the game while outside of the store, then go back in and say the game's defective. Muahahaha.

Seriously though, ScarletCrystals, you have a good point. But I don't think anyone here is saying that keeping your IDs to yourself is 100% safe, but that it is much safer than sharing your IDs online.

 

[Friendsxix]

I recently was the so called poor jimmy by completely loosing access to my blizzard Account. 3 Pictures of my physical Starcraft 2 Copy were enough proof for them to transfer all data onto a new account.
I don't think this would be too hard for Ninty to pull off.

Those bans would be completely ineffective in this case, for reasons I outlined prior in the very post you quoted. Namely because it isn't hard to find pictures of a cartridge online, thus allowing anyone who cares enough to email pictures the ability to get themselves unbanned.

 

[Reecey]

Time to go to Gamestop, buy a used 3DS game, dump the game while outside of the store, then go back in and say the game's defective. Muahahaha.

Seriously though, ScarletCrystals, you have a good point. But I don't think anyone here is saying that keeping your IDs to yourself is 100% safe, but that it is much safer than sharing your IDs online.

That's never gonna work bud because soon as you buy it, take it back to the store they will sell it on to next man to use online!

If ninty has the capability to track duplicate IDs, it just as likely that they can read which game the ID is meant for and whether it matches. So all this fixation on using self ID is moot since you might STILL be banned. It's ridiculous to assert that getting your own ID is going to protect you from being banned.

Yeah you may be rite but at least its a 100x safer bet!!!

 

[CathyRina]

Those bans would be completely ineffective in this case, for reasons I outlined prior in the very post you quoted. Namely because it isn't hard to find pictures of a cartridge online, thus allowing anyone who cares enough to email pictures the ability to get themselves unbanned.

But are you able to find pictures of cartridges online with your own drivers license and identity card?
Even when you hold that damn thing up to the monitor to show that you take these pictures while writing that email?
Sounds like a solid proof to me.

 

[Friendsxix]

But are you able to find pictures of cartridges online with your own drivers license and identity card?
Even when you hold that damn thing up to the monitor to show that you take these pictures while writing that email?
Sounds like a solid proof to me.

... borrow a friend's cartridge? Still is a very ineffective measure to ban people if that's all it takes to get it lifted. Furthermore, poor little Jimmy probably has no form of ID, so for the process you outlined he'd have to use another person's, which I suppose could work (parent/guardians), but it isn't very ideal.

 

[Buck_7]

Does this also apply to regular ds flash cards?

 

[Arras]

Does this also apply to regular ds flash cards?

No, those have nothing to do with this. This is only for 3DS backups and only if you want to play them online.

 

[pwsincd]

has anoyone worked out what GW are doing to enable online , how they go about it , with regards to the file ex change etc ?