Hardware 3DS VS PSP 3000? (Graphics)

[Rydian]

So asking to compare a current gen console to one released 8 years ago and asking which one is better is logical?

If you have no idea about either system, then you're not likely to realize the difference, so yes it is logical to ask about something you don't know about.

I repeat; people don't come out of the womb knowing this shit. Don't be a dick.

 

[JulietStMoon]

I repeat; people don't come out of the womb knowing this shit. Don't be a dick.

And about half the people born in this world don't have dicks. True story.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

I think in handheld devices it's more acceptable to have graphical differences between consoles. Better Graphics and more cpu power = more energy consumption and greater dimensions
One of the Nintendo DS greatest advantages was the long battery compared to the PSP. In the case of the 3DS, you don't have a longer battery but a more portable console, 3D games and a cheaper price.
And I do think 3DS graphics are much better than PSP, cause I've seen both in real life. I think anyone who says the opposite problably only saw them on the internet.

 

[JulietStMoon]

And I do think 3DS graphics are much better than PSP, cause I've seen both in real life. I think anyone who says the opposite problably only saw them on the internet.

I can name at least one user on this forum who doesn't think that, and claims to have played both regularly. lol

 

[Foxi4]

...this still going on? Wow. I posted a chart on the very first page which shows proper benchmark results.

The most accurate post here was Veho's - that the specs *appear* to be close, but aren't.

• The 3DS's hardware merely works at a similar frequency to that of the PSP - it has two cores rather than one for starters, and even though they don't work at 333Mhz like the PSP's core can, neither does the PSP CPU - most games require only 222Mhz or less and the rest was unlocked in later firmwares - anything over that value is merely for performance's sake and wastes battery. That, and the two are in a completely different architecture (MIPS vs ARM), and the 3DS's is simply better. Mhz are not an accurate measure of CPU power.
• The GPU of the PSP isn't anywhere close to that of the 3DS, it has less than half the VRAM accessible to it as well and lacks numerous hardware filters and effects the PICA provides.
• The 3DS has twice the RAM of most PSP models and four times the RAM of the original PSP.
• The 3DS renders *more* pixels than the PSP, regardless of its "visible" resolution. The 3D effect requires twice the pixels to generate, plus it also takes care of the bottom screen.

All in all, the 3DS is a much stronger console compared to the PSP. For detailed information, check out the chart on the first page of this thread.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

My opinion on this whole thing is that the PSP has some nice games and the graphics are not too bad, but comparing to the 3DS is a bad idea. The 3DS is still a fairly new system and is going to have a lot of games released for it, the PSP's library is pretty much set in stone.

 

[heartgold]

To be more precise, the 3DS has a far stronger CPU (An ARM9-based dual core working at the frequency of 268Mhz compared to the 1-333Mhz scalable MIPS)

Nice post, don't want to nitpick, but 3DS CPU is dual core ARM11 according to devs themselves and 3Dbrew.org. Tad stronger.

ARM9 was DS and DSi CPU's, it's obviously 3DS is using a beefier chip slightly more advanced. Anyhow good post.

 

[Foxi4]

To be more precise, the 3DS has a far stronger CPU (An ARM9-based dual core working at the frequency of 268Mhz compared to the 1-333Mhz scalable MIPS)

Nice post, don't want to nitpick, but 3DS CPU is dual core ARM11 according to devs themselves and 3Dbrew.org. Tad stronger.

ARM9 was DS and DSi CPU's, it's obviously 3DS is using a beefier chip slightly more advanced. Anyhow good post.

Oh! Fair play, I didn't notice that error. What I wanted to write was that it's presumed to be a variation on the Cortex A9 design. I'll correct that, sorry. Good spot.

 

[Anacobra]

Why do people even try to do a comparison with things that are not even the slightest to being the same.

Completely different processors, architecture, completely different system. Different ways of programming for it. Different everything. There is no way to 'compare' the two.

 

[rockerzz182]

Compare 3ds to psvita because their in the same generation cause psp is in dsi generation.

 

[Ace Overclocked]

Compare 3ds to psvita because their in the same generation cause psp is in dsi generation.

Why do people even try to do a comparison with things that are not even the slightest to being the same.

Completely different processors, architecture, completely different system. Different ways of programming for it. Different everything. There is no way to 'compare' the two.

Seriously? there's no point in bitching, he just wants to know and he let him.
Not everyone in the world knows alot about gaming, or even follow it.
He's probably just a new gamer who wants to know which system to buy, and maybe he ruled out the ps vita because he doesn't want to spend 250$ for a system.

 

[McHaggis]

• The GPU of the PSP isn't anywhere close to that of the 3DS, it has twice less VRAM accessible to it as well and lacks numerous hardware filters and effects the PICA provides.

Hmm... "twice less"... *thinks* twice of four is eight... multiplied by the hypotenuse... carry the 7... WAIT, THE PSP HAS -4MB VRAM!? [/pedantry]

3DS ⋙ PSP

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[Foxi4]

• The GPU of the PSP isn't anywhere close to that of the 3DS, it has less than twice less VRAM accessible to it as well and lacks numerous hardware filters and effects the PICA provides.

Hmm... "twice less"... *thinks* twice of four is eight... multiplied by the hypotenuse... carry the 7... WAIT, THE PSP HAS -4MB VRAM!? [/pedantry]

3DS ⋙ PSP

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What I meant was "less than half the VRAM", does that answer your question?

 

[Veho]

So much for mathematics being the universal language

 

[JulietStMoon]

Compare 3ds to psvita because their in the same generation cause psp is in dsi generation.

Except that would be pointless because he's apparently not INTERESTED in the Vita, for whatever reason... He just wants help deciding between the 3DS, a newer Nintendo system, and the PSP, a cheaper, older system with a more pronounced library (for obvious reasons)

 

[Janthran]

I repeat; people don't come out of the womb knowing this shit. Don't be a dick.

And about half the people born in this world don't have dicks. True story.

I don't think that's entirely relevant here.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Wow, first page and this thread already got derailed? Damn Just Another Gamer, is there ever a party you don't poop?

Also to the people who are saying to compare the 3DS to Vita, just stop. You're spamming. That's not what the OP wants to know, so stop.

 

[spotanjo3]

To be honest.. 3DS vs PSPvita are make a sense since PSP 3000 should be in vs against DS.. This title is nonsense. Just saying. This thread is a waste of time.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

Vita has no games...

 

[Yepi69]

...the 3DS is better than the PSP as far as graphics are concerned - the two systems are a generation apart.

To be more precise, the 3DS has a far stronger CPU (An ARM11-based dual core working at the frequency of 268Mhz compared to the 1-333Mhz scalable MIPS) and GPU (the PICA200 working at 400Mhz with 4MB on-board VRAM of the 3DS compared to the 166Mhz Sony's custom chip with 2MB on-board VRAM) and it works at a higher resolution (the PSP's resolution is 480x272, the 3DS's is 800×240 pixels, 400×240 per-eye in 3D mode). To top it all off, the PSP has 32-64MB RAM depending on the model, wheras the 3DS has 128MB, plus it's in a faster standard.

All in all, the 3DS beats the PSP in every aspect, plus it has glass-less 3D, so if you're in for the graphics, you'd want a 3DS. That said, there's an even beefier console out there - the Vita. Have you considered that?

I won't really link you to any site other than Wikipedia - articles on both consoles, their specs as well as articles about the GPU's and CPU's are freely available.

As an additional resource, I'll post a graphics capabilities chart that compares the DS, the 3DS and the PSP - courtesy of IGN.com.

As you can see, the 3DS beats the PSP in every way imaginable apart from the Vertex Performance which couldn't be properly measured at the time of creating the article.

EDIT: Corrected an error, kudos heartgold.

WIN! Cant wait to shove this on those sony fan boys face