Hardware WiiU's CPU weaker than 360/PS3

[SixSenseEagle]

If this is weaker than the xbox 360 and ps3 Why does it look so good?
[media]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Shch7LNkVXw[/media]
This looks pretty promising to me. When we all saw The Last of us on E3 nobody expect it to look that nice for the ps3, So I doubt Nintendo won't be that weak if they make a good graphic demo for the Wii u. We seen nintendo make all cartoon like games on wii, and previous consoles, but since we got another good system its Nintendo turn to show us good graphics, and Finally make all genre of games.

The Wii U has a terrific GPU (with GPGPU).

This 'news' is talking about CPU power.

Please Explain Gpu or somebody Because I don't know what that is I know CPU, but not GPU.

 

[chris888222]

If this is weaker than the xbox 360 and ps3 Why does it look so good?
[media]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Shch7LNkVXw[/media]
This looks pretty promising to me. When we all saw The Last of us on E3 nobody expect it to look that nice for the ps3, So I doubt Nintendo won't be that weak if they make a good graphic demo for the Wii u. We seen nintendo make all cartoon like games on wii, and previous consoles, but since we got another good system its Nintendo turn to show us good graphics, and Finally make all genre of games.

The Wii U has a terrific GPU (with GPGPU).

This 'news' is talking about CPU power.

Explain Gpu Because I don't know what that is I know CPU, but not GPU.

GPU is basically Graphics Processing Unit.

Many devs are praising the Wii U's GPU potential as far as I know.

 

[Rydian]

Please Explain Gpu or somebody Because I don't know what that is I know CPU, but not GPU.

CPU = Central Processing Unit.
GPU = Graphics Processing Unit.

Which is why this news isn't exactly a deal-killer. Also (most) PC processors are out-of-order as well (barring things like the Atom, which are in-order because it's cheaper and simpler to make).

 

[Guild McCommunist]

People are equating a weaker CPU to this thing looking like N64 graphics. Or that's how it feels like. No one's saying the Wii U looks worse than the Xbox 360/PS3, it's most likely just structured differently.

It's most likely weaker in some aspects but stronger in others. On the whole the system is better looking (graphically) than current generation ones. Not even going to bother with my "probablys" or "most likelys".

 

[FireGrey]

Who cares it has a better GPU.
Do you really need a high clocked 6-core processor for a console?
Nope. You need a good GPU.

 

[spotanjo3]

Don't judge a CPU. Why ? Look at the SNES had a terrible slow CPU and look how the visual output completely outclassed the Megadrive once devs managed to wrangle it. There you go. Stop judging!

 

[heartgold]

It's not weaker, just differently structured and more efficient. Infact 360/PS3 CPU clocked at 3.2GHZ is the worst of its kind at this kind of age. A modern lower CPU GHZ frequency can easily surpass those in performance.

If devs are simply porting games, of course Wii U will not handle it properly. As I said before Wii U has an OoOE CPU. PS360 CPU uses in-order-execution (which can waste clock cycles) vs. Wii U CPU uses out-of-order execution (which uses clock cycles more efficiently). Now games made from in-order execution intent and ported to OoOE processor isn't going to perform well naturally.

Lets not forget Wii U's GPU can handle CPU instructions (GPGPU) as well, a feature mention at Nintendo direct. Next gen machines heavily rely on the GPU.
PS3 GPU sucked, it was CPU heavy coded as its CPU was so much better and helping out that shitty GPU, now porting those games to Wii U which isn't so dependent on CPU, you will indeed run into problems.

 

[J-Machine]

i'm not too worried about multi-platform games next gen. if wiiU is the weaker console but still able to compete hardware wise than devs will take the easy way out and work with the WiiU's specs before optimizing for the other versions.

 

[SpaceJump]

Can someone explain the difference between GPU and GPGPU?

 

[heartgold]

Can someone explain the difference between GPU and GPGPU?

I mentioned it somewhere

Lets not forget Wii U's GPU can handle CPU instructions (GPGPU) as well, a feature mention at Nintendo direct.

Basically a graphics processing unit can process central processing unit instructions.

GPGPU = General-purpose computing on graphics processing units

 

[SpaceJump]

Didn't see that. Thanks anyway

 

[Ghostyis40]

WOW seriously weaker than current gen not likely and very doubtly...seriously, theres just no way...thanks for the link but its still not enough proof in my eyes...since just about every developer thats making games for the U has confirmed its easly 50 times more powerful than current gen consoles and the U will have to have more than enough muscle to handle two tablets and what ever else developers decide to throw at the U!

 

[wiismodrome]

Hope that reports that the Wii U's CPU is basically three Broadways (Wii CPU) cobbled together are not true. Broadway is based upon the PowerPC G3, which is technology from 1997, and far below the performance of POWER7.

 

[chris888222]

Hope that reports that the Wii U's CPU is basically three Broadways (Wii CPU) cobbled together are not true. Broadway is based upon the PowerPC G3, which is technology from 1997, and far below the performance of POWER7.

Seeing the recent game demos and presentations, I find it very hard to believe in this rumor.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Remember when the Sega commercials claimed that the Genesis was a stronger system because of its faster processor clock speed (marketed as "blast processing"), even though the SNES's specs outshined it in literally every other way? That was funny.

 

[silver_ryder]

Hope that reports that the Wii U's CPU is basically three Broadways (Wii CPU) cobbled together are not true. Broadway is based upon the PowerPC G3, which is technology from 1997, and far below the performance of POWER7.

Google it....! lol

 

[Midna]

Hope that reports that the Wii U's CPU is basically three Broadways (Wii CPU) cobbled together are not true. Broadway is based upon the PowerPC G3, which is technology from 1997, and far below the performance of POWER7.

3 core processor != 3 processors cobbled together

Either way, that's not a very credible rumour

 

[spotanjo3]

Don't judge a CPU. Why ? Look at the SNES had a terrible slow CPU and look how the visual output completely outclassed the Megadrive once devs managed to wrangle it. There you go. Stop judging!

One more thing.. Just in case you missed it.. See above.

 

[MarcusRaven]

I apologize, but I'm about to rant for a line or two...

Who the hell cares about how powerful a processor, or bundle of, compare to anything? Its a GAME console. Just play the damn games and enjoy it! If you can't enjoy a game console because of the hardware specs, then you've forgotten what gaming is first and foremost; ENTERTAINMENT.

Now, anybody that wants to argue with, "But you would care about how fast a computer's processor is," that's different. This is a HOME CONSOLE that all its proprietary software is going to be made to run on. Home computers are marketed to be modular, and thus the individual components actually matter. A console is a completely different beast entirely. I'm not worried about my Wii not playing the latest games because it needs a new video card. I'm not concerned about my PS3 falling to slow-down because it needs more RAM.

So, all ranting aside, why does this matter when game systems are supposed to be about THE GAMES?

 

[Rydian]

So, all ranting aside, why does this matter when game systems are supposed to be about THE GAMES?

Take out the processor and the system can't play any games.

Give a system a more powerful processor and it can handle better AI and more entities at once.

Give a system a weaker processor and it restricts the games that can be played on it, which developers have noted is an issue with the Wii.