ROM Hack Guide: Make A "Legit" Pokemon using Pokegen!

[Mr. Prince]

Guide: How To Make A "Legit" pokemon​

using Pokegen!​

(NOTE 1 : THIS GUIDE IS FOR B/W, I DON"T GUARANTEE A LEGIT POKEMON FOR OTHER GAMES)

(NOTE 2 : THIS IS NOT FOR LEGENDARY OR UN-BREEDABLE POKEMON)

Spoiler: The Guide

http://projectpokemo...on-in-Pok%E9Gen

PS: If the pokemon wasn't accepted in random wi-fi, please PM me or post a reply.

EDIT: I kind of made typo by typing "male" instead of "make" and I have no idea how to edit the info that is written above the guide of this topic.

 

[Necron]

Good guide. Some questions. Can you make pokemon so they look like they came from other gen? And catched pokemon?
Also, is best to use serebii.net pokedex, since it tells you if a DW ability is avaible or not, since not all pokes are avaible with their DW abilities.

P.S: teach me how to do the eternal blizzard!

 

[FlashX007]

Doesn't everybody use pokesav anymore? It was so easy back then it took me seconds to make legit pokes.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Doesn't everybody use pokesav anymore? It was so easy back then it took me seconds to make legit pokes.

Pokegen > Pokesav

 

[FlashX007]

Whatever its been ages since I played. I only play for fun now. When it comes to metagaming related to Pokemon I learned to get out while you can or you will waste your life over it.

 

[DarkStriker]

In Black/White, the PID algorithm were remade and IV/nature has no correlation anymore. You can manually edit IV and nature without worrying about it going unlegit. There is no way to prove if it is legit IV or not as far as i know. PID only affects gender, shininess and ability. Thats why your tick on shiny wouldnt always work because of a new algorithm for the Black/White. Also if you only intend to change his ability, but not his gender/shininess its better to leave the PID field BLANK. PokeGen automatically generates the PID for you. DW abilities also has no correlation to PID. DW abilities simply "overwrites" it. So your safe to change it to whatever DW ability it has without worrying about a new PID. Do note that PokeGen makes the PID based on the algorithms from the last gen!

@FlashX007: PokeSav was awful because it didnt have the ability to make pokemon look legit as compared to PokeGen when Black/White came. You wont be able to go wifi with pokemon made with PokeSav unless you manually create the PID to make them look legit. And PokeGen is easier than PokeSav in terms of just creating a pokemon. PokeSav is harder to create legit pokemon now.

EDIT: And if you really want to make them look legit with the PID values for the shininess/gender/ability, then it will require a GOOD amount of your free time where you use 2/3 of it to learn about hex-editing and how PID works.

EDIT2: And this should be in tutorial/FAQ thread. Not to mention that there is already a guide for this there that has pictures and offers other options than just creating a pokemon from scratch.

 

[DJPlace]

nice guide i have to try this sometime...



also for step 10 replace it with this.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_ability

if you want to that is.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Good guide. Some questions. Can you make pokemon so they look like they came from other gen? And catched pokemon?
Also, is best to use serebii.net pokedex, since it tells you if a DW ability is avaible or not, since not all pokes are avaible with their DW abilities.

P.S: teach me how to do the eternal blizzard!

Yeah, you can, but you have to change the "origin" and "Game" to match the gen you want.

And, no I can't teach you, because you don't have any mental problems.........JK, JK!!

In Black/White, the PID algorithm were remade and IV/nature has no correlation anymore. You can manually edit IV and nature without worrying about it going unlegit. There is no way to prove if it is legit IV or not as far as i know. PID only affects gender, shininess and ability. Thats why your tick on shiny wouldnt always work because of a new algorithm for the Black/White. Also if you only intend to change his ability, but not his gender/shininess its better to leave the PID field BLANK. PokeGen automatically generates the PID for you. DW abilities also has no correlation to PID. DW abilities simply "overwrites" it. So your safe to change it to whatever DW ability it has without worrying about a new PID. Do note that PokeGen makes the PID based on the algorithms from the last gen!

@FlashX007: PokeSav was awful because it didnt have the ability to make pokemon look legit as compared to PokeGen when Black/White came. You wont be able to go wifi with pokemon made with PokeSav unless you manually create the PID to make them look legit. And PokeGen is easier than PokeSav in terms of just creating a pokemon. PokeSav is harder to create legit pokemon now.

EDIT: And if you really want to make them look legit with the PID values for the shininess/gender/ability, then it will require a GOOD amount of your free time where you use 2/3 of it to learn about hex-editing and how PID works.

EDIT2: And this should be in tutorial/FAQ thread. Not to mention that there is already a guide for this there that has pictures and offers other options than just creating a pokemon from scratch.

Well, with the steps I provided I got a full party of "Legit" pokegen-made pokemon (I tried to leave the PID empty so it would auto-generate a working PID but it gave me a bad PID, and for DW abilities, I made a reuniclus with Regenerator and the game wouldn't accept it as a "Legit" pokemon)

nice guide i have to try this sometime...



also for step 10 replace it with this.

http://bulbapedia.bu...9mon_by_ability

if you want to that is.

Thanks, I edited my post!

 

[DarkStriker]

Well, with the steps I provided I got a full party of "Legit" pokegen-made pokemon (I tried to leave the PID empty so it would auto-generate a working PID but it gave me a bad PID, and for DW abilities, I made a reuniclus with Regenerator and the game wouldn't accept it as a "Legit" pokemon)

Unreleased Dreamworld ability will ALWAYS result in it being unlegit(Can still enter wifi i think lol). And the auto-generate from blank should be used with the change of Ability only. If you give him a DW ability, then you want to keep the old PID. The bad PID was most likely the result of you flikering with the gender/shininess or the algorthim made a PID for that ability making the game detect that it has ability other than the ability it has(dw abilites not included). Which is way i said that dw abilties "overwrites" the PID and even so the PID is still being read and if the PID doesnt fit with the pokemons ability 1 or 2 it will result in illegal pokemon. If Pokemon is created from the scratch, then indeed finding a PID might be better, but editing a Pokemon from a existing one is always better and recommended.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Well, with the steps I provided I got a full party of "Legit" pokegen-made pokemon (I tried to leave the PID empty so it would auto-generate a working PID but it gave me a bad PID, and for DW abilities, I made a reuniclus with Regenerator and the game wouldn't accept it as a "Legit" pokemon)

Unreleased Dreamworld ability will ALWAYS result in it being unlegit(Can still enter wifi i think lol). And the auto-generate from blank should be used with the change of Ability only. If you give him a DW ability, then you want to keep the old PID. The bad PID was most likely the result of you flikering with the gender/shininess or the algorthim made a PID for that ability making the game detect that it has ability other than the ability it has(dw abilites not included). Which is way i said that dw abilties "overwrites" the PID and even so the PID is still being read and if the PID doesnt fit with the pokemons ability 1 or 2 it will result in illegal pokemon. If Pokemon is created from the scratch, then indeed finding a PID might be better, but editing a Pokemon from a existing one is always better and recommended.

Yeah, I know, but this guide explains how to create a pokemon from scratch, so that's why I said to search for PID.

 

[DarkStriker]

Yeah, I know, but this guide explains how to create a pokemon from scratch, so that's why I said to search for PID.

It also works from scratch. The auto-generated PID by leaving the space blank is generated with the A-B-C-D algorithm which is from the 4th gen pokemons. You just have to make sure is generated before you change his ability to dreamworld. Its basically doing what your telling the others to do.

 

[Mr. Prince]

It also works from scratch. The auto-generated PID by leaving the space blank is generated with the A-B-C-D algorithm which is from the 4th gen pokemons. You just have to make sure is generated before you change his ability to dreamworld. Its basically doing what your telling the others to do.

When I tried the A-B-C-D algorithm, it didn't work, but when I tried the A-B-D-F algorithm, it worked!

 

[DarkStriker]

When I tried the A-B-C-D algorithm, it didn't work, but when I tried the A-B-D-F algorithm, it worked!

Well thats no wonder because the algorithm on Black/White is different like i said. The best way to make a 100% working PID no matter what is to create the PID from scratch with a hex program.

 

[Mr. Prince]

And this guide is for B/W (There's a note above the guide, maybe you didn't read it )

 

[DarkStriker]

And this guide is for B/W (There's a note above the guide, maybe you didn't read it )

*facepalm
What of the part PokeGen using the algorithm of pokemon from generation with DPPtHGSS did you not understand?

 

[Mr. Prince]

*facepalm
What of the part PokeGen using the algorithm of pokemon from generation with DPPtHGSS did you not understand?

I did understand that the algorithm for gen 4 pokemon are different from B/W.

 

[DarkStriker]

I did understand that the algorithm for gen 4 pokemon are different from B/W.

Just trying to say that PokeGen's algorithm is still based on Gen 4, and thats why there will always be a fault in the PID that results in not being able to access wifi.

 

[Mr. Prince]

I did understand that the algorithm for gen 4 pokemon are different from B/W.

Just trying to say that PokeGen's algorithm is still based on Gen 4, and thats why there will always be a fault in the PID that results in not being able to access wifi.

Thanks, and is the algorithm stored in the pokemon itself or the game?

 

[DarkStriker]

Thanks, and is the algorithm stored in the pokemon itself or the game?

Game

 

[Mr. Prince]

Thanks!