Gaming Chromatic Tetris new GBC game has been dumped

[iball]

You're making it sound more complicated than it is, considering most if not all information regarding the console is already public, hardware and software information is available if you search in the correct places. When you make a single one that works, its just "copy & paste" in some sense.

Its a similar situation with game devs, even though they do most of the job they don't get all the profit, but share most of it with people that was never involved on the development or design. That's the main reason many indie devs prefer to work by themselves and so many "aaa" dev studios have dissapeared over the years, the greed of big companies buying them and making crap games in record time ruins the process, it's all about profit for them.

Engineers make it work, but they don't get most of the profit, but people that take advantage of the so-called "classic nostalgia" of players, and my criticism its for them and their greed.

OK, so what you want is called "communism" and not only has it resulted in the death of millions and millions of people it's also failed every single time it's been tried.

Fun fact: the real minimum wage is *zero*.

 

[Lumstar]

You're making it sound more complicated than it is, considering most if not all information regarding the console is already public, hardware and software information is available if you search in the correct places. When you make a single one that works, its just "copy & paste" in some sense.

Its a similar situation with game devs, even though they do most of the job they don't get all the profit, but share most of it with people that was never involved on the development or design. That's the main reason many indie devs prefer to work by themselves and so many "aaa" dev studios have dissapeared over the years, the greed of big companies buying them and making crap games in record time ruins the process, it's all about profit for them.

Engineers make it work, but they don't get most of the profit, but people that take advantage of the so-called "classic nostalgia" of players, and my criticism its for them and their greed.

No offense, but I didn't ask about or even mention greed.

 

[VIRACY]

The page on archive.org is gone but the torrent still seems to be active.

In unrelated news, here are some letters and numbers
ae727333868944143c415dc4222aca20a44596f0

I haven't been able to get it to work, so I think it's gone.

 

[hippy dave]

I haven't been able to get it to work, so I think it's gone.

Maybe, it's available elsewhere by now tho, check google or your usual rom sites

 

[VIRACY]

Maybe, it's available elsewhere by now tho, check google or your usual rom sites

I've been scouring all morning I can't find it at all. I own the Chromatic and Tetris, but I want to have the ROM on my Everdrive.

 

[VIRACY]

Maybe, it's available elsewhere by now tho, check google or your usual rom sites

I found it, but not on the usual rom sites. I found it on a Russian site!

 

[BETA215]

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. It's an FPGA and problems like that are *easily* fixed in firmware updates.
Please educate yourself and read up on how FPGA-based systems like the Chromatic, Analogue Pocket, and FPGBC actually work.

If you know how it works, then explain it. Come up with arguments instead of attacking others gratuitously.

 

[anotherthing]

If you know how it works, then explain it.

FPGA is a Field Programmable Gate Array. The easiest way to think of it is as a processor with an updatable instruction set. You're basically attempting to make the FPGA as close to possible as the hardware you're wanting to mimic with "cores", which program the FPGA to act like the original hardware. So, if there's a problem, you can update the core to make it more like the native hardware.

 

[iball]

If you know how it works, then explain it. Come up with arguments instead of attacking others gratuitously.

Does no one bother to read change logs or source code anymore?

"Suppress invalid DPAD inputs to correct character sprite glitch."

The actual fix to the source code can be seen right here:

https://github.com/ModRetro/chromatic_fpga/commit/04e2ee2719baaa8206d35cf19971b6c082ad0054

I'm not here to teach people how to use the internet either.

FYI, it really, really takes some effort to produce that now-fixed issue. We're talking you have to jam down on the DPAD pretty hard. it's not something that's ever going to show up in the course of regular gameplay, even heated gameplay.
And yet they still fixed it so it's no longer an issue.

Others are even modifying the source now to get more realistic-looking DMG color palettes but it's kind of a pain to upload to the Chromatic, requiring downloading of the GoWin compiler, free license registration, etc.
I checked it out but in the end didn't like the overall dark green appearance so I rebooted my Chromatic back to the stock firmware since I didn't permanently write the modified firmware to it.
I'm sure over time they'll do more wacky things with the firmware, like enabling that hidden micro-sd card slot for save states and/or ROM files, tweaking GBC color palettes, etc.

 

[ghjfdtg]

The relevant changes are these 4 lines:
https://github.com/ModRetro/chromat...aa37e29bb6eed85969122ee5fae34178cf2208a4edR97

Translation:
It's down bitwise ANDed with an inverted up. If the state for down is 1 and state for up is 0 then it evaluates as 1. All other cases evaluate as 0 and same goes for the other opposing inputs. What this essentially means is that if opposing side D-Pad inputs happen it pretends none of them are pressed. It's better than picking one of them randomly but it also means no input will go through if you do trigger for example up and down at the same time and this can happen because the D-Pad physically allows it.

 

[Deleted member 702243]

the dpad on the official gba sp also physically allows pressing opposing d pad buttons at the same time if you press hard enough, because of how thin it is it can flex just enough to do it. just fun trivia

it would be nice if they allowed the user to choose if they want to allow up+down and left+right though. official hardware doesnt technically prevent it, if you have a way to register both inputs at once, and there's some cool stuff you can do in some games by doing it. some emulators allow you to enable or disable the opposing inputs probably for a similar reason

 

[ghjfdtg]

You have to press real hard on original hardware or disassemble the shell to do that. Cramps included if you are playing games like that.

 

[Deleted member 702243]

You have to press real hard on original hardware or disassemble the shell to do that. Cramps included if you are playing games like that.

yeah, on an original gameboy/color or gba, there's not a chance you could do it without modifying the hardware. but with dpad mods it can be done

I'm not sure how many gbc games have useful up+down/left+right bugs though. I know on the gba you can do exploration glitch on the gba port of zelda 3 that way, but that's a gba game

Spoiler: offtopic

this is on snes, but the gba port is accurate enough that the same bug happens. I wasnt able to find a video of it being done on gba though. the glitch where you save+quit in mid-air was fixed in the port, but the up+down glitch was not

with gameboy player on gamecube, you might be able to do it by using dpad and analog stick together, on any game, with no modifications

 

[SylverReZ]

Not surprising that the Chromatic is now being sold at very high prices on eBay for upwards of nearly $300.

 

[JaNDeRPeiCH]

Not surprising that the Chromatic is now being sold at very high prices on eBay for upwards of nearly $300.

I have my digital backup. Screw the goddamn scalpers xD.

 

[BETA215]

Does no one bother to read change logs or source code anymore?

"Suppress invalid DPAD inputs to correct character sprite glitch."

The actual fix to the source code can be seen right here:

https://github.com/ModRetro/chromatic_fpga/commit/04e2ee2719baaa8206d35cf19971b6c082ad0054

I'm not here to teach people how to use the internet either.

FYI, it really, really takes some effort to produce that now-fixed issue. We're talking you have to jam down on the DPAD pretty hard. it's not something that's ever going to show up in the course of regular gameplay, even heated gameplay.
And yet they still fixed it so it's no longer an issue.

Others are even modifying the source now to get more realistic-looking DMG color palettes but it's kind of a pain to upload to the Chromatic, requiring downloading of the GoWin compiler, free license registration, etc.
I checked it out but in the end didn't like the overall dark green appearance so I rebooted my Chromatic back to the stock firmware since I didn't permanently write the modified firmware to it.
I'm sure over time they'll do more wacky things with the firmware, like enabling that hidden micro-sd card slot for save states and/or ROM files, tweaking GBC color palettes, etc.

I already showed a person that reviewed it in detail and you can see how he experienced the issues in real time. A software patch can only do so much to fix a *hardware* problem. And yes, it is a problem that's physical, so software solutions can only do so much. Consult the information I sent to see the case.

Again, like I mentioned before, hopefully there's a fix (the one already published or any other) that makes the D-Pad behave kinda as it should out of the box. I don't get why they built the D-Pad like that, it isn't like they invented it.

And again, it's an issue since no Game Boy Color had that problem with stock buttons and membranes. In case they had, it was a manufacturing error and needed a replacement unit.

I don't care about the politics regarding the CEO, that you seem to support on another message of yours. It's alright if someone that you have affinity with makes a bad product, or that the units that they initiallly manufactured were faulty. This is no fight to see who wins: there's nothing to win. This is just a conversation.

 

[iball]

I already showed a person that reviewed it in detail and you can see how he experienced the issues in real time. A software patch can only do so much to fix a *hardware* problem. And yes, it is a problem that's physical, so software solutions can only do so much. Consult the information I sent to see the case.

Again, like I mentioned before, hopefully there's a fix (the one already published or any other) that makes the D-Pad behave kinda as it should out of the box. I don't get why they built the D-Pad like that, it isn't like they invented it.

And again, it's an issue since no Game Boy Color had that problem with stock buttons and membranes. In case they had, it was a manufacturing error and needed a replacement unit.

I don't care about the politics regarding the CEO, that you seem to support on another message of yours. It's alright if someone that you have affinity with makes a bad product, or that the units that they initiallly manufactured were faulty. This is no fight to see who wins: there's nothing to win. This is just a conversation.

Why are you even talking about politics in regards to my post which didn't mention politics at all?
Does doing that make you feel superior to others or like you're somehow a nicer person?

 

[BETA215]

OK, so what you want is called "communism" and not only has it resulted in the death of millions and millions of people it's also failed every single time it's been tried.

Fun fact: the real minimum wage is *zero*.

Here you're talking about politics.

Merry Christmas by the way!

 

[iball]

Here you're talking about politics.

Merry Christmas by the way!

That's not the post you replied to. But hey, at least you tried.

 

[anotherthing]

I don't care about the politics regarding the CEO, that you seem to support on another message of yours. It's alright if someone that you have affinity with makes a bad product, or that the units that they initiallly manufactured were faulty. This is no fight to see who wins: there's nothing to win. This is just a conversation.

I wasn't going to reply, but it is rather silly to celebrate a misstep here particularly if it takes the product off the market just because the guy developing it doesn't agree with your politics. I have lots of Nintendo handhelds, and I love each one of them. I also know that hardware isn't being made any more. Those custom CPUs that Nintendo designed in partnership with chip makers aren't rolling off the lines. However many of them in the world there are right now is the highest number of them that will ever be going forward.