Trump leads Kamala in nearly every swing state [Update: Trump wins the 2024 election]

  • Thread starter Thread starter x65943
  • Start date Start date
  • Views Views 502,766
  • Replies Replies 4,413
  • Likes Likes 4
  • Friendly reminder: The politics section is a place where a lot of differing opinions are raised. You may not like what you read here but it is someone's opinion. As long as the debate is respectful you are free to debate freely. Also, the views and opinions expressed by forum members may not necessarily reflect those of GBAtemp. Messages that the staff consider offensive or inflammatory may be removed in line with existing forum terms and conditions. Saying NO to fascists/nazis - if you are one of those, you are not welcome here
He's lying again!
It's a safe assumption. I wouldn't ever put money on him telling the truth.
Post automatically merged:

Government contracts are even more egregious at price gouging...who is more likely to address that? Tim Walz price gouging czar or Elon "wanna clean house" Musk. My only worry is that Elon would go overboard and trim to much.
That is your only worry?

Your ONLY worry?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dark_Ansem
You nerds worshipped the guy years ago until you found out he isn't on "your side" now you seethe about him daily. It really is pathetic how people flipped on Musk. Sad.

Changing your opinion on something when you get more information is a very normal and healthy thing to do. Just discarding inconvenient and trivially verifiable information so you don't have to accept that you backed the wrong horse is how you get people like T**** in office.
 
You nerds worshipped the guy years ago until you found out he isn't on "your side" now you seethe about him daily. It really is pathetic how people flipped on Musk. Sad.
I've never liked him, the only person I know who likes him also says things like "Hitler had some good ideas"
 
Changing your opinion on something when you get more information is a very normal and healthy thing to do. Just discarding inconvenient and trivially verifiable information so you don't have to accept that you backed the wrong horse is how you get people like T**** in office.
did you really just censor Trump's name?
 
@Xzi, I can agree with this argument...but when coupled with other policy ideas (decreasing regulation, increasing energy generation domestically) incentives can be persuasive for companies to manufacture domestically increasing jobs and overall economic growth. Not a fix all by any means...which I why I stressed strategically. We need to protect some of our industries to reduce our dependence on foreign trade. Despite the economy growing (which it consistently does), I would argue our economic growth is in areas that do not meet the everyday needs of Americans (food/energy). What other ideas can help address these needs?
(note: I know @Xzi replied earlier. I want to weigh in regardless)

The problem is that Trump never coupled it with any policy ideas. It's just "when asked about economy -> reply with 'tarifs will solve everything' ". Calling him braindead certainly sounds like an insult, but it's really the best way to describe it. Or rather: he might know reality isn't as simple as he makes it out to be, but he also knows that he aims to sell it to those who know less about economy than him.
Not too long ago, he was asked about the rising cost in childcare. His response was an infamous word salad that newspapers tried to boil down to (or 'sanewash as') "tarifs will compensate for it". But Trump didn't talk of tarifs in the context you're using (using it as a method to steer toward a desired outcome, such as more local production). In fact, he never talks about tarifs as a means to an end.
Sorry...I should say 'to an ECONOMICAL end'. Aside from the earlier mentioned response to everything, I've also heard him talk as if foreign countries use USA as a sort of cash cow, and the tarifs serve therefore a sort of revenge to that perceived disadvantage.

The problem that pretty much every economist has with this action (combined with the lack of supporting policies) is that it doesn't work in the way Trump wants it to be. Supply and demand rules the world. If China sellstheir iOS chips for 100 bucks and the US raises a 10% tax on that(1), then it's apple who has to cough up 100 bucks instead of a hundred. Yes, it incentivizes apple to search for local alternatives(2), but if demand decreases Chinese companies just sell their chips elsewhere or stop production. It's really that simple, and it's baffling that nobody can get that into Trump's skull(3).
Faced with higher costs, companies using imported goods will either take the economical hit (not likely) or just raise the price for consumers (logical outcome).

Your last couple remarks are interesting as well. I can't say I know Harris's stance enough to know how much better she'll do, but the core idea is simple enough: "wealth redistribution".
The sort of capitalism that reigns supreme in the US concentrates the wealth in ever fewer hands. It benefits those on the receiving hand (Trump and Musk are clear examples) but poverises the majority. Unfortunately, the large mass is doctrinated that this system is the best for everyone, and changes in the right direction are often blocked at every corner(4).
There are enough 'other ideas'. But most are simply not feasible in US politics because "too extreme leftwing".


(1): random example here
(2): not always available, of course
(3): which leads me to believe he knows the idea is shortsighted but considers it inferior to how many people he can convince with it.
(4): to the rest of the world, Obamacare's a system that's only obvious. To this day, I see enough people trying to throw it in the bin
 
I lived in Hiroshima-ken for 2 years and my wife's from Tochigi. I'm familiar with the bread. And jealous.
I knew you used to live in Japan, I didn't know it was Hiroshima. Just last week I went to Innoshima for a few days for work. Really good food, but oh my god was there nothing to do on that island and the whole place closed down around 6 or 7!!!

At 880 yen for bread, that's somewhat close to $5US. I hope you are getting something of quality and not just Wonderbread.
 
The sort of capitalism that reigns supreme in the US concentrates the wealth in ever fewer hands. It benefits those on the receiving hand (Trump and Musk are clear examples) but poverises the majority. Unfortunately, the large mass is doctrinated that this system is the best for everyone, and changes in the right direction are often blocked at every corner(4).
It's because Trump voters are idiots.

They think that they can work hard and become part of the in crowd with money and close the door behind them.
Post automatically merged:

I pay 880 yen for bread here in Tokyo.... but it's REALLY good bread.
To be fair, that is equivalent to $5.78

You can pay much less than that for rubbish here, or way more than that to get nice bread
 
Innoshima

I've been there. Pretty sure I've been to all of the islands that hug the coast between Fukuyama and Hiroshima, at least all that can be reached by ferry.

I lived in a small town north of Fukuyama called Jinseki for a year. Sugoi inaka. I think it's a little more developed and modern up there now, but in 1991 ... sugoi inaka. And I also lived a year in Hiroshima-shi no Funairi Nakamachi.
 
@smf,

My price gouging post was a specific response to a post by @Xzi specifically about price gouging and obviously not the only issue I worry about. Try to stay on topic. Remember your joyful-warrior training.
 
My price gouging post was a specific response to a post by @Xzi specifically about price gouging and obviously not the only issue I worry about.
Rest assured: any issue you care about is not one that Trump is interested in addressing. Just look at how little he actually "accomplished" in four years. A 2% finished wall, tax breaks for the richest few, and an "infrastructure week" every week that never actually got any new infrastructure built. It was three years of coasting on the economy Obama had built before everything went to shit because Trump had no plan in place for a pandemic that we had been warned was coming for a decade.

Half a million Americans dead due to his policies, and a 14.7% unemployment rate. That's Trump's legacy. Given a second term he can and will do everything in his power to make those numbers even worse.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BigOnYa

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum