Trump leads Kamala in nearly every swing state [Update: Trump wins the 2024 election]

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First source Fivethirtyeight, second source the economist. Also, here are the bias ratings of each source. Like to see you spin this one now val.

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It’s time for someone real to say something. There’s 5 weeks left and you know what, gentlemen, from the start it was obvious who was winning, it’s proven before, it’s shown now (And that I also put my trust in Allan Litchman predictions)

I don’t know much of politics, just an 18 year old whose seen as a baby compared to you guys, whose somehow was raised by a republican family, but I will humbly admit my defeat that Trump lost and Kamala wins. I mean let me just get this out of the way, “We Fight We Win” that’s a pretty tough quote to use in a campaign. All I wish is that she’s at least better than Biden, like a lot better. In addition, there’s the fact that Mexico just got their first female president, that shit’s gonna motivate all liberals to vote for Kamala next, so it’s over for us. Just don’t gang up on me for being somewhat a conservative like y’all do with Val. Final thing, I love reading this entire thread, woohoo this is entertaining 🍿

Just felt like giving y'all a little victory
 
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People aren't ganging up on Val for being conservative, just delusional. I'm left of Bernie and Biden was too conservative for me but I can get along fine with conservatives as long as they aren't hardcore MAGA.
 
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I'm watching it now, and just..... wow..... I feel so bad for this guy to have parents like that. I'm honestly amazed they willing to join him in his podcasts when it paints them as such horrible people! The mother is potentially reachable if she's taken away from the internet. But his dad is so far gone that it's.... almost unbelievable. I shudder to think that someone that horrible exists and votes.
I gathered that the mother is reachable too. Apparently the family had become so divided, that they barely spoke at family gatherings, so Chad decided to start this podcast as an olive branch.

There's been some crazy comments from the father over the last few months like 'mark my words, Biden will be back on the ticket at the DNC, he wants back in' - to which they bet on it, and we all know that didn't happen.
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yawn, this is getting boring Val. Can you work on some new material? maybe chatgpt could help?
 
I gathered that the mother is reachable too. Apparently the family had become so divided, that they barely spoke at family gatherings, so Chad decided to start this podcast as an olive branch.

There's been some crazy comments from the father over the last few months like 'mark my words, Biden will be back on the ticket at the DNC, he wants back in' - to which they bet on it, and we all know that didn't happen.
That's seriously sad. I'm sure it's happening all across the country to families as well.

The father has had all empathy sucked out of him. He takes the whole "I have zero shits to give" type of thinking to the extreme. He goes on an on about how it's all about the party saying he would vote for Mark Robinson if he was in NC just because he's republican.

That's really the main issue here. The tribalism is beyond parody at this point. I'd like to hope that if Trump were running as a Democrat, the left would reject him at a higher rate than the right currently is.
 
That's seriously sad. I'm sure it's happening all across the country to families as well.

The father has had all empathy sucked out of him. He takes the whole "I have zero shits to give" type of thinking to the extreme. He goes on an on about how it's all about the party saying he would vote for Mark Robinson if he was in NC just because he's republican.

That's really the main issue here. The tribalism is beyond parody at this point. I'd like to hope that if Trump were running as a Democrat, the left would reject him at a higher rate than the right currently is.
That's why it's no exaggeration that MAGA is a cult and a very dangerous one at that.
 
So good to see Vance called out on his lies and throw a tantrum

"I thought you guys weren't going to fact check 😭😭😭😭"
OMG... he actually said, and I quote, "The rules were that you guys weren't going to fact-check."


 
OMG... he actually said, and I quote, "The rules were that you guys weren't going to fact-check."


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What's wrong with saying that? We all know they were ONLY ever going to "fact check" one side. That's their nasty little trick. And they promised they wouldn't do it after the last debate getting called out on it last time. But they just couldn't help themselves.
 
What's wrong with saying that? We all know they were ONLY ever going to "fact check" one side. That's their nasty little trick. And they promised they wouldn't do it after the last debate getting called out on it last time. But they just couldn't help themselves.
But.... they did fact check both sides. Did you not see the clip posted by Valwinz, or even watch the debate itself? Methinks not if this was your response. But you're focused on how they promised not to fact check. That must mean they lied, and should be called out for lying, right? Problem is, his call out against them was basically him giving them his blessing. He already admitted to that whole bit of the Haitians being a fabrication to get attention, so it's weird that he'd complain about getting that attention.....

But here's something simple to understand. If you don't want to get fact checked, then don't lie.....
 
But.... they did fact check both sides. Did you not see the clip posted by Valwinz, or even watch the debate itself? Methinks not if this was your response. But you're focused on how they promised not to fact check. That must mean they lied, and should be called out for lying, right? Problem is, his call out against them was basically him giving them his blessing. He already admitted to that whole bit of the Haitians being a fabrication to get attention, so it's weird that he'd complain about getting that attention.....

But here's something simple to understand. If you don't want to get fact checked, then don't lie.....

It's not a debate moderators job to do fact checks.
 
I love the fact that people get upset for lies being called out! Love it! Then there's the "they only fact check one side" part!
No, they fact check both sides, but only one side lies over and over, the other does not.
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I love the fact that people get upset for lies being called out! Love it! Then there's the "they only fact check one side" part!
No, they fact check both sides, but only one side lies over and over, the other does not.
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Simply put, only liars worry about being fact checked.
 

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