Tesla - The Nintendo Switch Overlay Menu

dsrules · Mar 14, 2023

ELY_M said:
I always update manually and use USB way via hekate.
I updated to 1.5.1

the tesla overlay still crashing when I switch pokemon in pokemon violet.
it works for few Pokemon changes then it crashed.

may I ask, by still crashing, do you mean in docked mode or handheld mode?
since crashes in tv mode was a known issue since day one, and handheld crashes only on 16.0

ELY_M · Mar 14, 2023

I was in handheld.

silien3 · Mar 14, 2023

ELY_M said:
I was in handheld.

I have not personally tried
but if it still does not work either there remains an atmosphere bug not yet discovered or its the ovl or it is necessary to update or modify the nx ovloader folder

Chrisssj2 · Mar 14, 2023

[Truth] said:
Has @WerWolv said anything about updating his applications for 16.0.0?

I hope too because if you go too much into the menu osd back and forth the tesla applet crashes.

TomSwitch · Mar 14, 2023

The one to blame is Nintendo, they should just let HOS be when they are not giving anything to the users.

hass00789 · Mar 15, 2023

nx-ovlloader doesn't work on atmosphere 1.5.0/firmware 16.0.0?

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nx-ovlloader doesn't work on atmosphere 1.5.0/firmware 16.0.0?

impeeza · Mar 15, 2023

I really don't know what are you asking for. But

Latest tesla and nx-ovloader do works fine on Atmosphère 1.5.1 and firmware 16.0.0

urherenow · Mar 15, 2023

Here. This includes ovlloader, tesla menu, emuiibo, and the Edizon overlay from -> https://github.com/proferabg/EdiZon-Overlay

All tested on my OLED on emummc FW 16, with latest Atmosphere. Updated emuiibo isn't officially released yet so please don't bug XorTroll if there are bugs. I did intercept an emmi amiibo with it in Metroid Dread, and got my bonus from it. (but mental note... activating the Tesla menu also activates your cloak in Dread... so you'll start to die if you don't notice and turn the cloak off)

hass00789 said:
nx-ovlloader doesn't work on atmosphere 1.5.0/firmware 16.0.0?

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nx-ovlloader doesn't work on atmosphere 1.5.0/firmware 16.0.0?

nx-ovlloader has always worked with it. Tesla menu and anything else that used libtesla, needed the update. nx-ovlloader is not built with libtesla. It only loads the .ovl files (which are built with libtesla).

FAKEdemicBioPYSCHONANOWAR · Mar 15, 2023

urherenow said:
Here. This includes ovlloader, tesla menu, emuiibo, and the Edizon overlay from -> https://github.com/proferabg/EdiZon-Overlay

All tested on my OLED on emummc FW 16, with latest Atmosphere. Updated emuiibo isn't officially released yet so please don't bug XorTroll if there are bugs. I did intercept an emmi amiibo with it in Metroid Dread, and got my bonus from it. (but mental note... activating the Tesla menu also activates your cloak in Dread... so you'll start to die if you don't notice and turn the cloak off)

nx-ovlloader has always worked with it. Tesla menu and anything else that used libtesla, needed the update. nx-ovlloader is not built with libtesla. It only loads the .ovl files (which are built with libtesla).

It works but i guess you missed the part where i say that if you go in and out too much of the overlays it will crash eventually your switch with tesla titleid. We neeed a proper update.

urherenow · Mar 15, 2023

FAKEdemicBioPYSCHONANOWAR said:
It works but i guess you missed the part where i say that if you go in and out too much of the overlays it will crash eventually your switch with tesla titleid. We neeed a proper update.

You're assuming that ovlloader is responsible for the crash. I'm not going to say it isn't possible, but I will say that it's highly more likely caused by one of the .ovl files that it loads. I didn't experience a crash when I was testing just Edizon and emuiibo overlay, and I entered and exited several times. Then again, Metroid dread loads an entire area at a time, then likely doesn't access any files until you switch areas (so TomVita might be onto something with using the home button).

I also didn't see your particular post about crashes, but I only just went back a few pages to look (I'm not going to revisit all 60+) I don't fully understand what is meant by switching pokemon in the post that did talk about crashes. Are we talking with Edizon or...?

silien3 · Mar 15, 2023

ELY_M said:
I was in handheld.

I know it won't work but given where we are, maybe change its (hosversionBefore(9,0,0)) to (hosversion(16,0,0)
https://github.com/WerWolv/nx-ovllo...75a71e84bdf8379c109b66a897e5094c655c602b6f71f

I know it's far-fetched but hey you have to test some stuff

dsrules · Mar 15, 2023

urherenow said:
You're assuming that ovlloader is responsible for the crash. I'm not going to say it isn't possible, but I will say that it's highly more likely caused by one of the .ovl files that it loads. I didn't experience a crash when I was testing just Edizon and emuiibo overlay, and I entered and exited several times. Then again, Metroid dread loads an entire area at a time, then likely doesn't access any files until you switch areas (so TomVita might be onto something with using the home button).

I also didn't see your particular post about crashes, but I only just went back a few pages to look (I'm not going to revisit all 60+) I don't fully understand what is meant by switching pokemon in the post that did talk about crashes. Are we talking with Edizon or...?

a good game to test if it still crashes in handheld mode would be River City Girls 2, it was a 100% crash, run the game then open Edizon overlay at the Please Wait loading screen

urherenow · Mar 15, 2023

dsrules said:
a good game to test if it still crashes in handheld mode would be River City Girls 2, it was a 100% crash, run the game then open Edizon overlay at the Please Wait loading screen

That doesn't even sound smart to me (trying to load the tesla menu while your game is loading something). But it sounds like a safety check needs to be added somewhere. Not sure at the moment how to do it, and if a check of available RAM needs to be done (and maybe pre-allocate a buffer), if a check for file access is being done (if that's possible to check without crashing), or both.

EDIT: Just curious... do you have cheats installed for that game? Have you edited atmosphere's system_settings.ini to have:

dmnt_cheats_enabled_by_default = u8!0x0

Then delete your toggles file for that game (if you have one)?

dsrules · Mar 15, 2023

urherenow said:
That doesn't even sound smart to me (trying to load the tesla menu while your game is loading something). But it sounds like a safety check needs to be added somewhere. Not sure at the moment how to do it, and if a check of available RAM needs to be done (and maybe pre-allocate a buffer), if a check for file access is being done (if that's possible to check without crashing), or both.

EDIT: Just curious... do you have cheats installed for that game? Have you edited atmosphere's system_settings.ini to have:

dmnt_cheats_enabled_by_default = u8!0x0

Then delete your toggles file for that game (if you have one)?

no, it crashes with or without any cheats and it was crashproof in handheld mode before 16.0

urherenow · Mar 15, 2023

dsrules said:
no, it crashes with or without any cheats and it was crashproof in handheld mode before 16.0

I see what you mean now. Had to download it first. But... it still makes no sense at all to try and run Edizon in any way, before the game has even loaded into its title screen. It seems like there is a couple of hickups while loading in the first place (the fighting girls above the progress bar freeze). When I wait to see the title screen, it doesn't crash. RAM may very well be the issue here. No time right now to dig into it... it's 12:40am in Japan and I have to work in the morning.

dsrules · Mar 15, 2023

urherenow said:
I see what you mean now. Had to download it first. But... it still makes no sense at all to try and run Edizon in any way, before the game has even loaded into its title screen. It seems like there is a couple of hickups while loading in the first place (the fighting girls above the progress bar freeze). When I wait to see the title screen, it doesn't crash. RAM may very well be the issue here. No time right now to dig into it... it's 12:40am in Japan and I have to work in the morning.

it is not just at loading screen, it's just a way of reproducing the crash 100% of the time, many games also crashes even in pause menu or at title screen, RAM might not be the problem since many Arcade Archives games are only less than 50MB also have a random chance of crashing like in tv mode

hope these videos could give someone a clue on what might be the cause of the crash problems

River City Girls 2 Handheld mode all using the same .ovl
16.0 100% crash when open Edizon overlay at loading screen

16.0 No crash if open Tesla overlay then wait and open Edizon Menu after loading screen
16.0 No crash if open Edizon Menu after loading screen

15.0.1 no crash anywhere

drgnslayers · Mar 16, 2023

urherenow said:
That doesn't even sound smart to me (trying to load the tesla menu while your game is loading something). But it sounds like a safety check needs to be added somewhere. Not sure at the moment how to do it, and if a check of available RAM needs to be done (and maybe pre-allocate a buffer), if a check for file access is being done (if that's possible to check without crashing), or both.

EDIT: Just curious... do you have cheats installed for that game? Have you edited atmosphere's system_settings.ini to have:

dmnt_cheats_enabled_by_default = u8!0x0

Then delete your toggles file for that game (if you have one)?

urherenow said:
W

Where do you find the toggles file (if there's one)?

urherenow · Mar 16, 2023

drgnslayers said:
Where do you find the toggles file (if there's one)?

atmosphere/contents/<titleID>/cheats... which can get annoying to look through, if you have a lot of games. A quick way to get rid of all of your cheats and stuff, would be to rename your contents folder, and make a new one with only 420000000007E51A (ovlloader) and maybe 0100000000000352 (emuiibo) in it.

Now that I'm home from work, I'm going to try things without emuiibo, then without Edizon overlay, and maybe even without both, to try and isolate exactly what is crashing.

EDIT:
Still can't track this down. I know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know exactly what I'm doing. I've been trying to build the loader with different heap sizes, and even renamed it to start with 01 instead of 42, to get it into the same boat as an application. With no .ovl files present, other than ovlmenu, there is no crash. With EITHER Edizon or emuiibo .ovl (probably any .ovl file at all, and even if there is no 0100000000000352 folder in contents for emuiibo to actually load and do its thing...), it crashes. If I let the game load all the way, I can't make it crash.

impeeza · Mar 16, 2023

urherenow said:
atmosphere/contents/<titleID>/cheats... which can get annoying to look through, if you have a lot of games. A quick way to get rid of all of your cheats and stuff, would be to rename your contents folder, and make a new one with only 420000000007E51A (ovlloader) and maybe 0100000000000352 (emuiibo) in it.

Now that I'm home from work, I'm going to try things without emuiibo, then without Edizon overlay, and maybe even without both, to try and isolate exactly what is crashing.

EDIT:
Still can't track this down. I know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know exactly what I'm doing. I've been trying to build the loader with different heap sizes, and even renamed it to start with 01 instead of 42, to get it into the same boat as an application. With no .ovl files present, other than ovlmenu, there is no crash. With EITHER Edizon or emuiibo .ovl (probably any .ovl file at all, and even if there is no 0100000000000352 folder in contents for emuiibo to actually load and do its thing...), it crashes. If I let the game load all the way, I can't make it crash.

and remember to put the sigpatches again if your rename your contents folder

urherenow · Mar 16, 2023

impeeza said:
and remember to put the sigpatches again if your rename your contents folder

Huh? There are no sigpatches in the contents folder.

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