Windows 7 Support End-of-Life (Also, Why I'd Prefer Upgrading to 8.1 Over 10)

This is what people will see when going to Microsoft's website up until the deadline shown. It is expected by most Windows users that Microsoft would no longer support Windows versions that become 10 years old and older, but it's damaging to Microsoft when they kill support for a platform that was still going strong and expect people to upgrade. Even worse when there aren't better alternatives.

Windows XP End of Life


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The message that was sent to users shortly before the end of support.

Go back to 2014. After 12 years of support due to there being so many people who loved using Windows XP, and perhaps arguably Microsoft's best version of Windows to date, Microsoft announced that support for all editions of Windows XP would end. They also used imagery of an old computer system running Windows XP versus a new system running the latest Windows at the time, Windows 8.1. Ridiculous, to say the least, as there were newer systems which could efficiently run Windows XP 64-bit. Yet, despite the security risks of a dead system, according to StatCounter a surprising 1.54% of people still use Windows XP. It may not sound like much, but considering that there are approximately 7 billion people on the planet, roughly 100 million still use Windows XP. Now, this estimate can very much be inaccurate, since not everyone owns a computer, but it could still be a fairly high amount considering that this is a statistic basing on how many computers have Windows XP, not exactly how many people use it, since more than one person can use a desktop or laptop. I wouldn't be surprised if I were to discover that 50 million still use XP.

Windows 7 End of Life


January of next year, all Windows 7 versions will no longer be supported (save those that are protected by volume licensing, in which it is extended until January 10th, 2023). What will this mean for Windows 7 users? Of all the currently supported Windows version, Windows 7 is the best, beating Windows 8.1 in the market share by over 25% globally according to StatCounter. Microsoft is now pushing messages on systems still running Windows 7, prompting users to upgrade to Windows 10.

Why I Do Not Recommend Windows 10


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Windows 10 integrates several new features, including Cortana, which collects user data automatically.

There are those who are gonna scoff, but it's actually been proven over and over. Microsoft is collecting your data. Even as recently as August of this year, because of the GDPR Microsoft is consistently being investigated about their data collection. The best way that they are doing it nowadays is with Windows 10, which has various diagnostic and info-collecting services on by default. Even after turning these features off, some personal information can still be collected by Microsoft. There is a way to remove built-in software manually, but it becomes reset after every major update.

Is Windows 8.1 Safer Than Windows 10?


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Due to there being many gripes about lack of desktop integration in Windows 8, Microsoft released Windows 8.1, which can be either seen as a mere upgrade or a separate version altogether.

Let's be honest here - unless Microsoft has stopped using it altogether, there really isn't such a thing as a "safe" version of Windows. However, many of these things which can be potential privacy breaches are built into Windows 10 by default. Windows 8.1 lacks several features (like Cortana) which collects and stores information remotely that has to be manually deleted or retrieved, so unless you add them to Windows 8.1 (via Windows Update or their own website), then yes it is somewhat better, in regards to privacy and security from the very developers of it. One thing's for sure: it's a heck of a lot better than Windows 8! :P
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@HarvHouHacker Linux *is* like that by design. I've used more distributions than I could name - Ubuntu, Mint, Armbian, Raspian, all sorts of stuff on all sorts of platforms over the course of the last two decades. I would rather drive nails under my fingernails than use Linux of any kind as a daily driver OS, but I use it routinely for purpose-built devices. Give me an SBC and a project and Linux makes perfect sense. Give me a laptop or a desktop with the aim of making it a consumer friendly device and daily driver computer that's supposed to "just work" and I'm installing Windows on it, no question. Users of Linux computers spend more time tweaking them than being productive - the favourite pass time of the average Linux user is installing a different Linux distribution to check it out and starting from scratch. Spaghetti factory has its limitations, but there is strength in standardisation. When I install an application on Windows, I know that it's going to work 99.9% of the time without any gymnastics, on Linux I have to consider layers upon layers of dependencies, and that's just not something a normal user should worry about. Heaven forbid if you have to also recompile things for your specific architecture. In fact, on a daily driver PC for the basic user you shouldn't be compiling squat - double click and let's go is the only way, and that's not the core philosophy behind Linux.
 
@Foxi4 Have you ever tried Pop! OS? It's what came with the laptop I just ordered, and if it wasn't for not being able to host games on the Linux version of Parsec (and yes, I did try running the Windows version of Parsec via Wine, but it just didn't work), it'd be the only OS on my laptop atm. Some things can act up (*looks at RetroArch and the .deb version and a flatpak being available from the Pop! Shop*), but I've figured out how to get this and that working just as fine as it does on Windows. About the only games that have acted up real bad out of my Steam library from running Proton (and even with the GloriousEggroll branch) is that any NRS game after MK9 can be stuttery in the way RPCS3 was about the last year and a half; anytime a new graphic the game hasn't had to render in real time is asked to do so, the game will stutter a bit, and then everything will be out of sync. Otherwise, I can play a lot of games in Linux just like I can Windows.


Now, I will admit trying to get my HORI RAP4 fightsticks to work on Linux is a whole different problem...
 
@Foxi4 Huh, guess I'm too geeky, then. I don't have a problem with Linux; I've had my share of problems with it, for sure, but I absolutely love it. I can deal with the problems that arise with Linux (my Ubuntu laptop has several issues, but I've worked around most of them), and I also think that Windows has some of the very same compatibility problems (as @Scott_pilgrim pointed out), but maybe that's just me. Like the old saying goes, "There's something for everybody" - not gonna try to sway you away if you found something that works.
 
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It's not really about being geeky or not being geeky, I am perfectly fine with navigating Linux and solving all of those issues on my own. Here's the thing - these things should be non-issues on a daily driver. If everything's a project then you don't have time to actually do whatever it is you're doing. There's a lot of Stockholm syndrome going on in the Linux community, and I don't know what causes it. Maybe it's the endorphin hit people get when they finally figure out how to make something function as intended. Even in @Silent_Gunner's post you can see that just the fact his stuff is now *mostly* working as it would on Windows is an achievement in and out of itself. To me it's a non-issue - I double click on the exe and machine goes brr. Don't get me wrong, Linux is excellent for building very specific kinds of machines, as I said. I was particularly proud of my "smallest Sonic & Knuckles that has ever Sonic & Knuckled", a computer based on an OrangePi running Armbian that had the sole purpose of running a Mega Drive emulator, driving a 2.8" display over an SPI bus (with some funky frame buffering to boost the framerate) and supporting a USB controller, but that's the thing - it was purpose-built for that. If I were to just play a game on an emulator, I'd do it on Windows and skip the hassle.
 
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@Foxi4 Yeah, but I'm saying that, outside of some edge cases, games with anti-cheat/DRM crap, and some games that, for their genre, have higher production values than what is the norm (*looks at MK11 vs. KOF2002 UM that uses some sprites that go as far back as KOF95/KOF96*), or that just use a highly specific function that requires Windows, Linux has got to the point where playing games on it isn't gonna require you to go into the source code of everything to fix the problem like it might have been back in, say, 2004!
 
Oh, definitely - compatibility-wise it's gotten better. You can, conceivably, play large swathes of your library without encountering major issues thanks to WINE etc., but ultimately you're still running things through a compatibility layer. Not only that, you're limiting your scope to just gaming here - that's not what I do on my computer most times, it's a tool I use for work. Outside of purpose-built ecosystems like Steam, Linux is an absolute nightmare for grandpa who just wants to do X, replace X with a normal, everyday task that on Windows requires downloading an application and going brr. Of course certain modern distributions do include "stores" that aim to replicate that kind of experience, but it's hit and miss. On Windows you can download your software from the shadiest part of the Web and as long as it's a Windows executable, chances are it will work. You can't say that about Linux applications, there's always a very good chance that the thing you've just downloaded and are trying to install will immediately start downloading and installing a zillion other packages which it *requires* to work, that is, if you're lucky and they do install automagically. This has always been the achilles heel of open source - software coded by a million monkeys across the world is just that, a million monkeys that are inter-dependent on each other. In 2016 a large portion of Linux applications committed seppuku because one disgruntled developer has decided to pull their repository (npm/Kik debacle, basically broke the Internet over 11 lines of code). In a Windows environment that's inconceivable - everything is pre-compiled and ready to rock when you need it, which usually is "now", otherwise you wouldn't be clicking on it. Part of the reason why Android is such a successful mobile OS is because it took Linux, used it as a base (and it is a good base) and took a giant hatchet to it. It's click and brr. If you had to run Arch on your mobile phone, you'd go insane in one afternoon, but it *would* be a nice conversation starter.
 
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good luck playing the latest games without dx12 which 8 does not support! there is absolutely nothing wrong with w10 people who say they don't want it are just paranoid conspiracists
 
@Bladexdsl So far, I haven't run across that problem. Most of the games I play on Windows use DirectX 9, which was supported by Windows all the way back to XP. There was only one or two apps that required higher than that, but since I got the AMD drivers installed, I've managed to get them working. I think for most games I get, they'll be DX9-compatible games. Fortunately, most modern games that use DirectX 12 are backwards-compatible with DirectX 11, so I think I'm good for now.
 
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Don't worry about end of support. Windows XP and Windows 7 will keep running just fine for many years to come. I know Windows XP and 7 are best operating system for gaming. I have 4 DELL computer running Windows XP and 3 HP computers running Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 Bit.

Do not uninstall Windows 7 then keep it forever. I still using Windows 7 Professional right now since year 2013. If internet programs like Internet Explorer then do not use it. Use Google Chrome, Brave, Firefox, Opera, etc are fine to use internet right now and in the future.

If internet programs like Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera, etc said end support for Windows 7 in around year 2022 - 2024. I strong recommend install VMware Workstation to install Windows 10 or Linux running on Windows 7 operating system to use internet in the future to stop worry about security problems.

Windows XP and 7 will keep running forever without problems after Microsoft end support. No need to panic to buy another computers to save our money.

I heard many people are complain on Windows 10 due to bad updates that mess up operating system. Just disabled or block Windows 10 updates forever then we should be fine. ;)
 
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You are fine. Dual boot are no problems with Windows 7 and Linux on same computer machine. ;)

I did have Ubuntu on my VMware Workstation on my Windows 7 have no issues running just fine. I like Ubuntu and Linux Mint. I find out that Linux Mint 20.x version have problem with Wine not allow me to play Windows games on it and puzzle me. Linux Mint 20.x have bugs inside operating system. I did test on Ubuntu running Wine program for Windows games running just fine without issues. No complain so far. :)

I still hold for Intel 12th generation like Alder or after then I will buy new computer with Linux operating for gaming. But I have to hold and do research on internet what we need to know.
 
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Indeed. :)

Here are two programs are very easy for us to use them on Windows 10.


StopUpdates10 to block Windows 10 auto updates forever.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/stopupdates10.html


and


Fix Windows 10 Privacy to kill all know Microsoft spywares.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fix_windows_10_privacy.html


I did test both programs on Windows 10 Pro on my VMware Workstation 15 Pro without problems running under my Windows 7. Cheers ;)
 
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Here's a funny I just made up (yet ironic, as well):

The best way to disable some Windows 10 reporting: Block updates.
The best way to disable all Windows 10 reporting: Downgrade to Windows 8.1 or lower.
The best way to disable all Windows reporting: Install Linux.
The best way to be 100% secure on a computer: Block the internet.
The best way to cure headaches about security and privacy: THROW AWAY COMPUTERS AND GO BACK 100 YEARS!
 
Am I the only guy on the planet who's just not running the Windows Update service at all? I only occasionally switch it on to download select updates that are relevant to performance and security. I don't like my workflow interrupted, the thing stays off unless required. I've been doing this since XP. SERVICES.MSC, kids.
 
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