I saw a lady almost die

[quote name='Destructobot' post='1211419' date='Jun 16 2008, 01:28 AM']And JPH, I feel for you. I had just turned 18 when my father died, and I remember the moment that I heard about it vividly. He was living in Texas at the time, while I was living with my mother in Portland. It was sudden - just a telephone call out of the blue that he had died. I remember my mind going a mile a minute trying to think of some way that it wasn't true, that it didn't really happen, but none of it made sense. After it finally sink in that he was gone, I just started crying, and I couldn't stop for days. Later that same night we got another call; when my 86 year old grandfather heard that his son had died he had a heart attack. He died about 24 hours after my father did. That was a bad day.[/quote]
That's crazy. Two relatives? I feel sad for you too

[quote name='Rehehelly' post='1211188' date='Jun 15 2008, 03:24 PM']If people were helping the woman, what else could the priest do? Chances are he didn't know what was happening and noticed she was getting help, so he carried on to not interrupt for the others.

How did you know she was dying? How did he? She was getting taken into an ambulance, obviously into better hands than anything he can do.. unless you believe praying will make god save her. In which case he could of asked for a communal prayer.

Maybe if she got stabbed and he carried on, then it'd be annoying, but.. in my eyes, he did nothing wrong.[/quote]

Yeah, that's what my parents said. Maybe I was just really freaked out, I mean, the lady was practically beside me. I just found it hard to believe he wouldn't stop the mass with an ambulance siren in the background

[quote name='Trolly' post='1211413' date='Jun 15 2008, 05:25 PM']I know this sounds a little odd. But I'm greatly interested in why the priest didn't do anything. Any way you could ask him why he didn't do anything? He needs to be confronted in some kind of way. I'd also be very interested.
Thanks if you can.[/quote]

I don't think I'm going to ask him. BothRehehelly and Destructobot raise good points as to why he did what he did


[quote name='ScuberSteve' post='1211420' date='Jun 15 2008, 05:28 PM'][quote name='SleepingDragon' post='1211360' date='Jun 15 2008, 08:04 PM']Nothing changes your life more than watching life expire in another human. Nothing.[/quote]
Sorry, that's bullshit. It only applies if you've talked to the person before, or if they died unfairly.
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Seriously, if you mean that, I feel sorry for you. If you can see some random person die and say 'Whatever, I didn't know them, who cares' that's just sick

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Also, to JPH and Destuctobot, I know it was years ago for both of you, but I am sorry to hear about your losses

[quote name='SleepingDragon' post='1211360' date='Jun 15 2008, 08:04 PM']Nothing changes your life more than watching life expire in another human. Nothing.[/quote]

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I think that watching another human lose their life is a very life changing experience. I've not been part of too many tragedies, but I've seen my share of them, and I've been a part of quite a few rough experiences and I have to say that thus far, for me, nothings trumps watching someone die. Whether you knew them or not, whether you liked that person or not.


There are many things that can have a profound effect on peoples lives; death, birth, prison, traumatic incidents, and even losing people who disappear--as if into thin air, really--or having someone you thought that you knew, do something so bizarre and so out of character that it upturns your life and the life of the people around you for a year or . All of these things have had an effect on me--they'd have an effect on anyone. But nothings effected me more, to date, then watching people die. Both a young kid and an old woman. I wasn't there when they finally passed on, but I saw them constantly in various states of failing health and, even though my parents didn't want to tell me so, I knew they were dying--especially in the kids case--months before the doctor said they would.

But I've also seen a kid die suddenly and it was The Most intense and profound experience of my life to date.

This isn't to say that the woman from Science's church was dying, I doubt that she was, but not "doubt" in a disrespectful, belittling or demeaning way, it just sounded more like a seizure to me--which in its own way, can be deadly--but is often survived. This woman deserves as much of my concern as any other ill stranger I come across or hear about, but still, I feel that if the preist really did nothing, then he handled it the wrong way.

The most he could've done--assuming he wished to try and keep the group, and children calm, was paused, covered the mic and gotten one of his assistants to send someone dependable or knowledgable like a dr. or nurse to the womans aide. If she was having a seizure then she shouldn't have been put on her back, thats just asking for her to choke and die on her own vomit or swallow/bite her tongue.

The least Mr. Priest could've done was, after the woman had been taken away, told the congregation something along the lines of:

"Unfortunately, my friends, Mrs. Redobaucher has fallen very ill, God knows best whats wrong with her, but she's gone to the hospital where she will receive the best care possible, so please pray for her and her family. Also, I'd like everyone to do their part in aiding she and her family in this difficult time. If someone close to her could check on her during her stay--however long that is--that'd be super. If a few people would volunteer and do some cleaning around her place, or send a nice homecooked meal to her family this week then it'd be great. I'll look into her case and hopefully report to you all the news of her recovery"

At least acknowledging the womans illness or condition would've been better than complete and utter nothingness, I think. If my dad or brothers or sisters or mom got sick in a community gathering and had to be taken away to the hospital, I think it'd only be polite and right for someone to acknowledge them, especially if that "someone" is supposed to be a leader of any sort.

There are a hundred thousand things that could've been wrong with her outside of death itself, but if you think that person is dying then its just as scary and just as surreal as if they actually are.