Logic behind Christianity?

Logic and religion doesn't mix. It's like oil and water.


They say that religion is there to explain what logic can't, so yeah. I learned that in summer cyber school.

There is no logic.
Believing in religion is like thinking that your gameboy can play xbox 360 games.

[quote name='mcp2' post='3767231' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:45 PM']Religion is lost on the younger generations who blindly follow their liberal, psuedo-intellectual friends online regurtitating the same old arguments against religion.

[quote name='Depravo' post='3767085' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:20 PM']Logic and religion are mutually exclusive. Logic encourages us to question whilst religion demands we blindly accept.[/quote]

You really are a stupid moderator to think they're mutually exclusive.

[quote name='Youkai' post='3767092' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:22 PM']Why would someone who thinks logical at all think religion would be something good to adapt to oO?

Relegion is something for stupid people who need this as an explanation why they are alive and others just need it when they have problems cuz they want something impossible to happen ...


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well sorry if someone feels offended by me saying its for stupid ppl but well everyone who would think logical would say most of what religion thaughts is bullshit even thaught some ideas about not doing bad things are nice...[/quote]

Here we have a teenager who thinks they've got life understood down to a tea, how about you come back in 10 years and see if you feel the same?

[quote name='YetoJesse' post='3767099' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:24 PM']I'm gonna post 2 pictures, showing you my believe between logic and religion.[/quote]

Funny thing, you've just played right into my stereotype about the type of people athiests are. You actually haven't said anything, just posted two stupid pictures detailing the opinions of other people. Have you ever read a religious book? People dismiss religion without even giving it a chance. Where's the logic in that? Another point, vast majority of the most influential scientists, mathematicians of the past hundreds of years believed in God, I don't think that affected their logic.
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of course people who believe in the church are offended still it is at it is religion is only made up to get people do as wished to do.
think about it in the dark ages the church was powerful and most bad things happened thanks to Religion,
look at scientologie or however they are written ... they use religion and believe to manipulate people and everyone who is stupid enough gets caught up in their believes.

Its no wonder the more advanced humankind gets the less they need to believe in something like a God.
Scientists more or less found out about the Big Bang (well ok religion says its bullshit or if they stray from the bible they say ok but god made the big bang -.-V) or think about evolution its "proven" that we did not just pop out of the earth cuz god wanted it like this .

P.S. I am no teen as you might see in my profile i am even older than you are so don't try to lecture me oO
(i give it that my posts might have sounded chilish especialy for believers still its just common sense)

[quote name='PyroSpark' post='3767068' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:11 PM']So, is it possible to be a Christian if you're a logical thinker AND have not been raised with religion?[/quote]
Yes.

[quote name='Depravo' post='3767085' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:20 PM']Logic and religion are mutually exclusive. Logic encourages us to question whilst religion demands we blindly accept.[/quote]
Not all religion is illogical.
Most of them are, though.

[quote name='ProtoKun7' post='3767283' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:01 PM'][quote name='PyroSpark' post='3767068' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:11 PM']So, is it possible to be a Christian if you're a logical thinker AND have not been raised with religion?[/quote]
Yes.
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How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?

[quote name='Youkai' post='3767279' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:00 PM']of course people who believe in the church are offended still it is at it is religion is only made up to get people do as wished to do.
think about it in the dark ages the church was powerful and most bad things happened thanks to Religion,
look at scientologie or however they are written ... they use religion and believe to manipulate people and everyone who is stupid enough gets caught up in their believes.

Its no wonder the more advanced humankind gets the less they need to believe in something like a God.
Scientists more or less found out about the Big Bang (well ok religion says its bullshit or if they stray from the bible they say ok but god made the big bang -.-V) or think about evolution its "proven" that we did not just pop out of the earth cuz god wanted it like this .

P.S. I am no teen as you might see in my profile i am even older than you are so don't try to lecture me oO
(i give it that my posts might have sounded chilish especialy for believers still its just common sense)[/quote]

So you would rather believe the conspiracy theory that religion was created to control the masses over religion being true? Which has the firmest grounding? About the Big Bang, let me tell you that the first few stages of the Big Bang occured in roughly...3 seconds. 3 seconds seems a lot shorter than a few weeks don't you think? I'm glad you put "proven" when talking about evolution because as you know it's still a theory, not proved yet, may never be.

[quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!

well yeah i believe it was made to controll people over everything else even thaught it might really help some.

and yeah you actually can't really prove the evolution but there are enough findings that at least prove that what the bible says is completely false ...

ok maybe there is some sort of beeing higher than us but if thats so there is noone living on earth who is able to tell something about it as long as "it" doesn't show itselfs to someone which would mean every religion that is out there is more or less wrong.
if there would be something out there it would either stay silent or show itselfs to more than just one person.

[quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM'][quote name='ProtoKun7' post='3767283' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:01 PM'][quote name='PyroSpark' post='3767068' date='Jul 10 2011, 07:11 PM']So, is it possible to be a Christian if you're a logical thinker AND have not been raised with religion?[/quote]
Yes.
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How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?
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Not all religion is illogical.
And, btw, saying God used the big bang to create the universe isn't straying from the Bible. Will expand after sort out this keyboard

[quote name='Snailface' post='3767193' date='Jul 10 2011, 08:27 PM'][/quote]
Amen brother. I'm not a religious man, but there's a lot of religious people I respect greatly.

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Also Youkai, with that kind of spelling, how did you make it through 8th grade?

[quote name='Midna' post='3767327' date='Jul 10 2011, 03:17 PM']Also Youkai, with that kind of spelling, how did you make it through 8th grade?[/quote]
Not everybody was born in a country that has English as their main language.

[quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
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believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things

Yes, you can be a logical thinker while following a religion. There have been quite a few people who were both logical and religious.

[quote name='Youkai' post='3767321' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:16 PM']well yeah i believe it was made to controll people over everything else even thaught it might really help some.

and yeah you actually can't really prove the evolution but there are enough findings that at least prove that what the bible says is completely false ...

ok maybe there is some sort of beeing higher than us but if thats so there is noone living on earth who is able to tell something about it as long as "it" doesn't show itselfs to someone which would mean every religion that is out there is more or less wrong.
if there would be something out there it would either stay silent or show itselfs to more than just one person.[/quote]

If you've read any of the religious books of the Abrahamic relgions, we have Prophets, those who have been in touch with God or Angels.

[quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
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believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
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I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.

[quote name='mcp2' post='3767342' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:22 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
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believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
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I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.
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Then you are exceptionally closed minded. People can have different opinions than you, ya know?

[quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767353' date='Jul 10 2011, 08:27 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767342' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:22 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
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believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
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I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.
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Then you are exceptionally closed minded. People can have different opinions than you, ya know?
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It wouldn't make much sense to believe in a being that created everything and can do anything and not worship him/her.
I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to believe in god but not worship him/her, but it's just not very likely.

[quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767353' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:27 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767342' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:22 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
[/quote]
believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
[/quote]

I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.
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Then you are exceptionally closed minded. People can have different opinions than you, ya know?
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And you may need to return to school because I never claimed to have imposed my opinions on anyone else.

[quote name='BobTheJoeBob' post='3767357' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:28 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767353' date='Jul 10 2011, 08:27 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767342' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:22 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
[/quote]
believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
[/quote]

I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.
[/quote]
Then you are exceptionally closed minded. People can have different opinions than you, ya know?
[/quote]
It wouldn't make much sense to believe in a being that created everything and can do anything and not worship him/her.
I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to believe in god but not worship, but it's just not very likely.
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yes, it really can. some people believe god simply set the world in motion and that he plays not part in our lives, why would they worship him? you are also closed minded. you're thinking about it from your point of view instead of somebody elses

[quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767361' date='Jul 10 2011, 08:31 PM'][quote name='BobTheJoeBob' post='3767357' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:28 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767353' date='Jul 10 2011, 08:27 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767342' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:22 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
[/quote]
believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
[/quote]

I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.
[/quote]
Then you are exceptionally closed minded. People can have different opinions than you, ya know?
[/quote]
It wouldn't make much sense to believe in a being that created everything and can do anything and not worship him/her.
I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to believe in god but not worship, but it's just not very likely.
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yes, it really can. some people believe god simply set the world in motion and that he plays not part in our lives, why would they worship him? you are also closed minded. you're thinking about it from your point of view instead of somebody elses
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That's not being 'closed minded'. The word you were looking for, is ignorance, since I was ignorant of this theory. Also, even with that theory, there would be people worshipping their creator, regardless if he was only there to set it in motion or not.

[quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767361' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:31 PM'][quote name='BobTheJoeBob' post='3767357' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:28 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767353' date='Jul 10 2011, 08:27 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767342' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:22 PM'][quote name='DeathStrudel' post='3767330' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:19 PM'][quote name='mcp2' post='3767316' date='Jul 10 2011, 04:14 PM'][quote name='Tanas' post='3767306' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:10 PM']How can a person who believes in something that is illogical, be a logical thinker?[/quote]

Oh no they believe in Religion, they don't have a brain! What happened to all those scientists and mathematicians, the epitomies of logical thinkers, that beleived in God?!
[/quote]
believing in god and believing in religion are 2 different things
[/quote]

I, and many others, don't see how you can believe in God and not worship God.
[/quote]
Then you are exceptionally closed minded. People can have different opinions than you, ya know?
[/quote]
It wouldn't make much sense to believe in a being that created everything and can do anything and not worship him/her.
I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to believe in god but not worship, but it's just not very likely.
[/quote]
yes, it really can. some people believe god simply set the world in motion and that he plays not part in our lives, why would they worship him? you are also closed minded. you're thinking about it from your point of view instead of somebody elses
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Can't you think about it from our point of view?