Bullying matters - The follow-up

So, in my previous blog post, I mentioned how I was about to face my past as a bullied child, in the very school it happened, to have a talk with the teens about bullying and its consequences. And while things did happen, I'll take the opportunity to point them out.

I reached the school at the planned time, one hour before the school begins. With the director waiting for my arrival. First thing he did was to apologize for the mistakes of his predecessors, before asking me to follow him to his office, where he wanted me to explain the full story, as said predecessor only wrote it off as a "minor problem", like many things. So I went on and told him the full story, and once again, he apologized.

Then he introduced me to the teachers' room. Including one or two who were at the school at the time it happened, but none who actually got me as a student. One had my older brother, though, so she met me during the parent-teacher meetings, and she had a hard time to believe a kid as calm as me could be able to do something like that. I simply answered her that "the calm ones keep to themselves what the harsh ones say openly, so it's much more violent when it breaks out", something she agreed.

Then, I was introduced to the room where I'll have the talks. Which actually was the room where it happened. And it turns out that, to my surprise, there are still faint traces of it - The floor being made of old tiles, the joints took a darker color where my bully bled. The day was split into two talk courses, gathering all the first year students so I could talk to them, and the first was about to begin, so I simply sat, waiting for it to happen.

And the first course began. I got introduced by the teacher, talked about how it happened, and as I was doing so, I noticed how looks turned from two girls to a third one, while being noticably more and more scared as the story went on. Turns out it was a case of bullying that began because the bullied one received a nasty surprise from a pigeon on the head on the first school day, so I took the time to defuse the situation.

Then, a round of questions happened. Things about how was my life since then, if I had news about my bully, or, surprisingly, a teen who couldn't grasp how someone thin and weak could suddenly destroy someone much bigger and physically stronger. Which pushed the teacher to talk about adrenaline rush and its effects. Then the bell rang and the pause happened.

The shock of talking about it at that place pushed me to sit a bit, which, when the second course was called and the teens came back, pushed one teen in particular to antagonize me, since "you're sitting at my place". I laughed it off, more surprised than anything since teens openly attacking people 20 years older than them isn't a sight you often see, then the teacher came in and forced him to sit in the front row.

So I began the second course, explaining what happened, and under my eyes, said teen's face turned red. Then white. Then green. Then blue. Worried about his state, I stopped the course to inquire about his health, and the answer that came out of it shocked me, for a solid reason - His uncle was... My bully. So I called for a time out of the classroom with him and the school's psychologist, who is always there for such cases and talks.

I suggested for him to get out of the classroom until I finished the talk, but he actually wanted to stay until the end, in order to "hear about the whole story" since he actually didn't knew about it (probably as he was too young for that in his parents' minds). He ended up asking for more and more questions, understanding the situation more and more.

Then came the round of questions with that group. And there, a teen who began calling the whole thing a lie. The teacher was the one who answered to him... By pointing out that the darker shade of the floor joints was because of the bully's blood. The teen got shocked and refused to talk about anything until the bell rang, and ran outside of the classroom faster than the others.

And with that, my day at that school finished. After a small talk with the direction to confirm that the task was done and to let the school psychologist and the teachers give their opinions about it, I simply left the school and went back home, my shoulders much lighter than before now that the whole ordeal is cleared. Plus, as the director kept my number, I can be called at times for other talks, which can be good financially wise, considering a single talk is usually nicely paid.

In the end, the talks were rather smooth. The case of bullying I found was easily solved, the students were quite comprehensive, and I ended up much better as a result. I just hope these talks prevented things like my own case to happen to others.
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I do occasionally wonder what position I take in the stories of those I hit back for (I don't know if I went quite as far as your previous one but hospital visits and lasting conditions/conditions still there when we left school some years later were results of several of those). Guess you got to play a part in one of yours.
 
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Step 1: If you have a bully, try to turn them from foe to friend.
Step 2: If step 1 doesn't work, give them a beating they'll never forget.
 
nero99 said:
If step 1 doesn't work, give them a beating they'll never forget.
Easier said than done in the modern world where someone huffed some glue or something and thought "zero tolerance" is a thing that is likely to produce good results, only to be joined by fellow glue huffers in making it widespread.
Not to mention you also risk acting disproportionately (a shove might count as them starting but if you turn around and stick your thumbs in their eyes that does not necessarily end well) or indeed instigating it in that instance (sneaking up behind someone is a good plan if you want to win a fight but still makes things harder to justify) even if you are living in a sensible place that instead goes with "he who throws the first punch is the arsehole".
This also assumes you can actually do something -- I might be deceptively big, fast, accurate, somewhat trained, barely feel pain and find myself completely without empathy but not everybody has such advantages and adrenaline only goes so far (assuming you even have the fight version and don't get landed with the run or shiver flavours). It also only takes one selective edit of a video capture (cameras are everywhere and in everybody's pocket) to make life hard, to say nothing of the bully's parents "being well liked in the community" and willing to make your life hard, or your bully's "friends" willing to exact some measure of revenge later on you and yours for the insult.
 
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To add on @FAST6191 's comment, there's also the emotional impact on yourself. I've talked a bit on it in my previous entry, but the event left me scared of myself and what I was able to do for years, even though I wasn't alone in my recovery. And somewhere, I think I'm still trying to recover through this, by doing my best to ensure I can reduce such cases.

I'd say a better step 2 would be to talk about it to higher-ups (parents, teachers, school direction) and to ask to be put physically away from your bully. This may be another school (as schools can and often will arrange for mid-year student moves), this may be extra surveillance, this may be a harsh sanction on the bully to make sure they understand, but the matter is that the problem is solved without you scarring and scaring both yourself and your bully for months at least.
 
The fuck is wrong with bullied people?
I was / got bullied all my life for being the quiet kid with good grades. But if something I'm proud my parents taught me (and maybe quite literally the only thing they taught me... ever) was to stand up against them.


First times I'd let it pass and maybe laugh with them... but if they attempted it twice, depending on my mood I'd either laugh with them or fucking beat their asses.

Something that scared my classmates at middle school (after a fight) is the fact that I rarely got bruises or swollen parts after receiving some hits.
Usually, I'd hurt my knuckles after beating my bully gor hitting them too hard and of course, a suspension for some days.
But they ever tried something after that? No! Of course not.

I kinda made my own reputation of being unbeatable for not getting bruises and passing out guys after a well placed punch in the chin / head.

On highschool (last grade achieved) I started to grew a lot, so people wouldn't mess with me after finding out a 6 foot tall guy with deep voice and crazy eyes looking standing in front of them...

The whole "I changed school / Git traumatized for life" thing is beyond my comprehension... really!

You wanna know how's it feel to be really, really traumatized? Go watch some pain olympics or real gore... and even then, I'd find the occasion more funny than intimidating.
 
@JuanMena I once tried to stand up to someone bullying me, they got 3 solid punches in, I got in one and it didn't even faze them, it just made them madder. It's not easy to just beat up someone who's bigger and stronger than you are. And someone who has never been in a fight before will not likely be much good against someone who has. Mad props to this guy for managing that, but it's not something most of us can do.
 
I was bullied in junior high while riding the bus. The cool kids sat in the back. I tried to sit in the back, since there were no seats left. I stood up to them every day, eventually gaining their respect. After a few months, they let me sit with them.
 
Re "being in a real fight"
There are many classes of bully but a solid chunk of them are those that spend their evenings and weekends being bounced off the wall by an adult or older sibling. Usually makes for considerable pain tolerances, focus during action and even if they are not going to win against the one doing the bouncing then some means to block and hit back (learn by doing and all that).
Among the other big groupings then those with the physique for it (playing contact sports of something) and that can count for a lot.
Martial arts training can help but you want to make sure you are getting a good one (hard to know unless you know), and also note that being thrown on a mat is one thing but metal, wood, glass and bricks is a whole different activity.

As far as standing up to them. Even ignoring them stirring up trouble afterwards there are a lot of places that do "zero tolerance". Which is to say be the one being hit, never mind if you started it or not, and you get suspended/expelled/sanctioned along with the one doing the deed/starting stuff. If it sounds ridiculous then congratulations you appear to understand the basics of cause and effect or guilt and innocence.
Anyway the idea that "some holiday/end of school is just in a few months, I'll bear it/avoid them" becomes a strategy to consider should you be under such a system. Not my chosen one but I was coming up through school before such nonsense and as covered above I can be a right sadist should I choose to be (good at waiting/planning as well -- all the "accidents" were during PE when I just so happened to have a very large stick in my hand or spikes on my shoes) and riding a bike/skateboard for hours a day (you fall off both a lot, was fond of jumps and serious offroad on a bike, and even if I bounced far better then it still hurt and you get used to that) and some training meant what was usually those new to the school and looking to make a name and thinking the quiet skinny kid with long hair was a viable target was sorely mistaken.
 
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