"please stand for the flag"

Invisibility sounds like a good deal.

In American Middle schools, sometimes one does wish for invisibility. IDK about now though; I attended back when the towers came down.

I was a dumbfuck who was learning to speak but hated speaking when the towers came down
but now I think they just wish for drugs and sex

ew drugs

Edgy kido.

Why is it every time someone talks about the US its always that the country is full of idiots? Everyone says that. Every one has themselves convince that they are the few smart ones in America, and everyone else is unaware sheep.

Yet at the same time everyone else claims they already know what going on in America and its corruption. And those same people your calling sheep are calling you sheep back. So is every one sheep but at the same time no one is sheep? Are people living in some kind of paradox?

All this boils down to is people thinking they are special because they know things someone else doesn't. Yet they know things someone already else knows. Since not a day goes by when this stuff is not talked about. And those people that didn't know, now they know after you called them unaware sheep and explained to them what they don't know. So they are no longer unaware anymore since now they are aware.

^ Brexit, probably

It's been over a year and I still don't get what the hell is going on with it, and I don't think anyone really does (as much as they think they do)

@SG854 replace "America" with any other country, and that claim is still valid.
I guess you are describing typical human behaviour.

Theres just so much crap going on in the world that I can't keep up with all of it. I try but my time is limited, and I don't want to spend all day researching this stuff and want to enjoy life too doing other things. So instead of people being assholes why not explain what they don't know?

Teachers know things their student don't know. Imagine a teacher thinking they are better and smarter then their students because they know somethings their students doesn't know, and spends the day calling their students idiots. But thats what people are doing when they call people idiots, because they "know things." Theres a very simple solution to all this, teach them, like what a teacher does, then they won't be idiots anymore. And you won't get an ulcers being angry thinking everyone else is an idiot anymore.

Theres always some jack ass at a bar or party thinking he's aware and others aren't. And you have people roll their eyes when that guy speaks.

@sarkwalvein yes thats true.

It's sometimes necessary to just show you're proud of being of nationality X (insert your country here) because some far-right idiots claim you're not a "real" X (insert again here). Yes, my parents were born in Morocco decades ago, but that doesn't mean I'm not "really" French. French is my native language, I was born in France, and I never lived in Morocco.
Singing your nationakl anthem is also sometimes nice, like during sport matches when you wanna support your national team.

It's sometimes necessary to just show you're proud of being of nationality X (insert your country here) because some far-right idiots claim you're not a "real" X (insert again here).

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Unless they are threatening violence and you just need to get out of there I would tend to suggest not giving them the satisfaction.

Anyway I tend to find nationalism rather distasteful at best. The pledge of allegiance lark somewhat hilarious, mainly as the mind tends to run to one of those 1950s style frothing at the mouth anti communist types. Apparently it is taken seriously by some over there -- I caught an episode of I think it was Chicago Fire the other week and it had such a theme, I thought it was satire.

I am really not the kind to sing the anthem 3 times a day and kiss the national flag. I consider myself to be patriotic only in the sense I am French and proud to be. That's all people should do. But well, in France apart from nationalists, there aren't US-like things such as kids standing for the flag each morning before the class. People sing the anthem for football and rugby matches, for when we celebrate the glory of the Resistants (the French who refused to surrender) killed by the nazis during WWII, and that's pretty much everything.

The French resistance huh? From where I sit it was (largely) as mythologised as much of US history.

I have been to various ones of those hidden rocket building bunkers in France. The tales of sabotage recorded in there... just wow really.

Much of the rest, if it can be permitted to have someone with an upper class (ish) English speak of such things then

The pledge and/or "in god we trust" were not American traditions from the beginning obviously, they were added later. You're free to sit or not recite the pledge, but you'll probably be judged for it. Fairly fascist IMO. "In god we trust" is just vague enough to not be a violation of church-state separation, but it says a lot about the US that we have to put "god" on all our money.

Reminds me of this.

I reserve respect for people, not things. If I had it my way, I wouldn't stand, take off my hat, or recite a pledge to anything or anyone. That said, I do stand because my dad gets pissy when I don't, and I have to live with him.

I respect the people who founded this country on the ideals of liberty and the natural rights of man. As well as those who give up their lives to uphold those ideals. But I do not respect our country's positioning as of right now. I do not want to stand for the obvious violations of these rights and blatant disregard for the people.

Dude ur so COOL Standing up to DRUMPFT and GOD like who needs religion when you have ANIME WAIFUS XD am i right?

let me guess you think Japan is the promise land compared to US?

my first class at school makes us watch the school announcements
the announcements always have us stand and pledge to it and if my first hour teacher was not a big 200+ pound guy whos taller than 6 feet and wants everyone to stand for the pledge (we actually get graded on wether or not we stand) i would sit
on days we have subs about half the cals completely ignores it and sits XD