Sony Sued for PSN Security Breach

[MelodieOctavia]

Seriously, this is bullshit. It's not like it's their fault. I'm siding with Sony on this. It's not hard to change your credit card information (has anyone ACTUALLY had their card stolen?) and most supposedly "personal" information is pretty easy to find anyways. There's actually a website where you can track where a person has lived, how long, and if they have any criminal records. Your name, address, and all that isn't exactly a private thing anymore.

Are you mentally challenged?

You call visa or mastercard, inform them it's been stolen, they issue you a new card.
It is easy, just effort.

Unless the money was already taken in the six days it took for Sony to report this.

Not to mention that if someone has automatic bill payments coming from that card, like many do...well, It's not just as simple as cancelling the card, right?

 

[Warrior522]

Seriously, this is bullshit. It's not like it's their fault. I'm siding with Sony on this. It's not hard to change your credit card information (has anyone ACTUALLY had their card stolen?) and most supposedly "personal" information is pretty easy to find anyways. There's actually a website where you can track where a person has lived, how long, and if they have any criminal records. Your name, address, and all that isn't exactly a private thing anymore.

Are you mentally challenged?

You call visa or mastercard, inform them it's been stolen, they issue you a new card.
It is easy, just effort.

Unless the money was already taken in the six days it took for Sony to report this.

Which is the main issue here.

 

[naved.islam14]

Serves them right, they deserve it

and :yaynintendo:

 

[Nollog]

Seriously, this is bullshit. It's not like it's their fault. I'm siding with Sony on this. It's not hard to change your credit card information (has anyone ACTUALLY had their card stolen?) and most supposedly "personal" information is pretty easy to find anyways. There's actually a website where you can track where a person has lived, how long, and if they have any criminal records. Your name, address, and all that isn't exactly a private thing anymore.

Are you mentally challenged?

You call visa or mastercard, inform them it's been stolen, they issue you a new card.
It is easy, just effort.


Unless the money was already taken in the six days it took for Sony to report this.

That wasn't what was highlighted.
What was highlighted was that it was easy to change your details, and then SUPER-MATURE name-calling.

QUOTE(TwinRetro @ Apr 28 2011, 03:15 PM)

QUOTE(azariaspice @ Apr 28 2011, 06:40 AM)

Seriously, this is bullshit. It's not like it's their fault. I'm siding with Sony on this. It's not hard to change your credit card information (has anyone ACTUALLY had their card stolen?) and most supposedly "personal" information is pretty easy to find anyways. There's actually a website where you can track where a person has lived, how long, and if they have any criminal records. Your name, address, and all that isn't exactly a private thing anymore.

Are you mentally challenged?

You call visa or mastercard, inform them it's been stolen, they issue you a new card.
It is easy, just effort.

Unless the money was already taken in the six days it took for Sony to report this.

Not to mention that if someone has automatic bill payments coming from that card, like many do...well, It's not just as simple as cancelling the card, right?

You can pay bills automatically from a credit card?
Wow, I want to live there, oh wait I don't since then the economy will go to shit like it just did because people use money they don't have.

 

[Rogue_Syst3m]

yea yea yea, were always shit until someone needs our help

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Seriously, this is bullshit. It's not like it's their fault. I'm siding with Sony on this. It's not hard to change your credit card information (has anyone ACTUALLY had their card stolen?) and most supposedly "personal" information is pretty easy to find anyways. There's actually a website where you can track where a person has lived, how long, and if they have any criminal records. Your name, address, and all that isn't exactly a private thing anymore.

Are you mentally challenged?

You call visa or mastercard, inform them it's been stolen, they issue you a new card.
It is easy, just effort.


Unless the money was already taken in the six days it took for Sony to report this.

That wasn't what was highlighted.
What was highlighted was that it was easy to change your details, and then SUPER-MATURE name-calling.

QUOTE(TwinRetro @ Apr 28 2011, 03:15 PM)

QUOTE(azariaspice @ Apr 28 2011, 06:40 AM)

Seriously, this is bullshit. It's not like it's their fault. I'm siding with Sony on this. It's not hard to change your credit card information (has anyone ACTUALLY had their card stolen?) and most supposedly "personal" information is pretty easy to find anyways. There's actually a website where you can track where a person has lived, how long, and if they have any criminal records. Your name, address, and all that isn't exactly a private thing anymore.

Are you mentally challenged?

You call visa or mastercard, inform them it's been stolen, they issue you a new card.
It is easy, just effort.

Unless the money was already taken in the six days it took for Sony to report this.

Not to mention that if someone has automatic bill payments coming from that card, like many do...well, It's not just as simple as cancelling the card, right?

You can pay bills automatically from a credit card?
Wow, I want to live there, oh wait I don't since then the economy will go to shit like it just did because people use money they don't have.

Wow, obviously you have never heard of a debit card. (Works just like a CREDIT CARD) Are you even old enough to pay bills? Do you even own a bank account? How do you not know these things?

Oh, that's right, because you are speaking on things you have no clue about. Why don't you brush up on US economy a bit before commenting again.

 

[geenlung]

They should give all PSN users a free NGP and call it even =)

*wishful thinking*

 

[Hop2089]

I want sony to win

Sony deserves to lose and pay all damages and losses for the negligence, as for the hackers if they are caught (I doubt it), they will be in deep shit.

 

[Nollog]

Wow, obviously you have never heard of a debit card. (Works just like a CREDIT CARD) Are you even old enough to pay bills? Do you even own a bank account? How do you not know these things?

Oh, that's right, because you are speaking on things you have no clue about. Why don't you brush up on US economy a bit before commenting again.

The poster said credit card. You're stuffing words in their mouths and mine now.

I merely presented facts as to why the poster may not be incorrect. Why you being so forceful and changing what the poster posted?

 

[chartube12]

Wow, obviously you have never heard of a debit card. (Works just like a CREDIT CARD) Are you even old enough to pay bills? Do you even own a bank account? How do you not know these things?

Oh, that's right, because you are speaking on things you have no clue about. Why don't you brush up on US economy a bit before commenting again.

The poster said credit card. You're stuffing words in their mouths and mine now.

I merely presented facts as to why the poster may not be incorrect. Why you being so forceful and changing what the poster posted?

Dumb kid...A debit card, atm card and cash card are all the same dam thing. Plus they work the same way as a credit card. I knew this even when I was very young, so ya your a dumb child.

 

[Takanato]

Sony will probably survive, based on the fact that they're one of the world's biggest companies. Remember they don't only make video games but tvs, music and alot of other shit that gave them the trillions they got.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Wow, obviously you have never heard of a debit card. (Works just like a CREDIT CARD) Are you even old enough to pay bills? Do you even own a bank account? How do you not know these things?

Oh, that's right, because you are speaking on things you have no clue about. Why don't you brush up on US economy a bit before commenting again.

The poster said credit card. You're stuffing words in their mouths and mine now.

I merely presented facts as to why the poster may not be incorrect. Why you being so forceful and changing what the poster posted?

To a hacker they can't tell the difference between a Credit Card and a Debit Card. Here in the states, anything that works like a credit card is called a credit card. That's why you see every site that sells shit under the sun ask for your Credit Card number. Not your Debit card number, not your Cash card number...but you can put those in too and it works just fine.

At this point you're just playing a trivial game of semantics.

 

[Hop2089]

Sony will probably survive, based on the fact that they're one of the world's biggest companies. Remember they don't only make video games but tvs, music and alot of other shit that gave them the trillions they got.

Their gaming division will most likely disband to cut losses if they lose. Sony will survive, they are swimming in money, but as a gaming company they will fall.

 

[Nollog]

Wow, obviously you have never heard of a debit card. (Works just like a CREDIT CARD) Are you even old enough to pay bills? Do you even own a bank account? How do you not know these things?

Oh, that's right, because you are speaking on things you have no clue about. Why don't you brush up on US economy a bit before commenting again.
The poster said credit card. You're stuffing words in their mouths and mine now.

I merely presented facts as to why the poster may not be incorrect. Why you being so forceful and changing what the poster posted?


To a hacker they can't tell the difference between a Credit Card and a Debit Card. Here in the states, anything that works like a credit card is called a credit card. That's why you see every site that sells shit under the sun ask for your Credit Card number. Not your Debit card number, not your Cash card number...but you can put those in too and it works just fine.

At this point you're just playing a trivial game of semantics.

It's not. I was replying that it's a simple matter of calling the card issuer to tell them of the fraud/loss/stolen card. A new card will be issued.
In the case of a debit card, I'm sure the ACCOUNT NUMBER REMAINS THE SAME, but the card number, chip, pin, and other details someone would need to attempt fraud on your account would be changed by the issuer.
If you don't know, transactions from a debit card debit from an account using an account number behind the chip, pin, charge-card number, and possibly other details.
So you wouldn't have to do anything but change your debit card number on websites that allow you to store your number and details for easy payment.

Actually, since I now remember losing my debit card multiple times, I can confirm the account number remains the same and debits you may have set up on standing order or the US equivalent of direct debit would be unaffected.

QUOTE(chartube12 @ Apr 28 2011, 04:28 PM)

Dumb kid...A debit card, atm card and cash card are all the same dam thing. Plus they work the same way as a credit card. I knew this even when I was very young, so ya your a dumb child.

Credit card requires no money in an account, the rest do.
They may look like they work similarly in practice to you when you use them, but they are very different.
Also, sure is name-calling and srslerz ironic 'round here.
Lern2bemoreadultbro.

 

[Maedhros]

Where are the people defending the hackers now?

Good lord, this is too fucked up.

 

[Hop2089]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6310549.html?...ews%3Btitle%3B1

No evidence CC data was stolen, we can put that to rest.

 

[Rayder]

The US Supreme Court just threw Sony a big bone today, lol.

http://www.latimes.com/business/sc-dc-0428...0,1239412.story

Oh, but corporations and governments aren't evil and corrupt, right? What this will mean is that the individual will almost never again win a major case against any corporation because they will never have enough money to compete against those corporations by themselves, regardless of how justified their suit might have been. Wasn't that one of the main reasons for class-action in the first place, to protect the public? Just another step in the systematic screwing of the non-rich-bastard public. The rich bastards are taking over and anyone who isn't a rich bastard is at their mercy. The rich bastards are stacking everything in their favor and regular people are supposed to just take it up the ass with whatever bullshit they decide suits THEM best.

And you're a damn fool if you think otherwise.

I'll have to be honest though, if I was a rich bastard, I'd probably do the same thing if I could. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Sony can burn for all I care, but the fact of the matter is that all this trouble they're in now won't really hurt them as much as it SHOULD. They might have to drop out of gaming for a while, but they have many other markets where they can continue their shenanigans. The only ones who WILL be (and are being) hurt are the regular people who aren't rich enough to have laws written in their favor, or to put a judge in their pocket (and don't tell that's not happening). And the hacker who caused all this? That person should be treated like an international terrorist and dealt with accordingly once they are caught.....if they are caught.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

I have severe doubts that this precedent will stick Rayder. If it does, I have no hope left fpr this country.

 

[ProtoKun7]

I don't have a PSN account so at least this doesn't concern me.

Note to admin - Please can you create an emoticon similar to this

for Sony ......

sorry, just couldn't help it..

This might be the best first post in all of GBAtemp history.

(first)

 

[kudaku]

does no one here feel bad for the workers at sony (who are not part of the team that's responsible for the security) ... if sony is gone...lots of ppl will lose jobs... i mean Sony isn't just one person, there are people there who are just trying to make a living too...