yeah, lol this gone quite off topic, but still i do not need to update windows to play games online, or to update my steam to access the shop... it is just stupid, and being "norm" doesn't mean everyone should accept it and live with it. Just like airport security. I'd prefer lady groping me over the bloke as well. KK THX
also if i don't want to update, it does not mean i pirate everything. i play lots of games on PC and i own most of them, most of ones i do not own are ones with idiotic DRMs etc. like Mass Effect 3 for example. If it is norm. to get stuck a 2by4 up your behind every time you launch a game i rather not do play the game, or i just get it from "illegal" sources. Blame pirates for lost sales? It isn't pirates fault in the first place. all my DRM protected games are cracked even if i own them, cause i do not plan to pay 30£ or w/e a month just so i could fire up a game to play on the go.
yeah, ugh back on topic? i don't think theres anything else to say? unless you tested the start up shop offline with old FW to see if it works once you get online?