This is dumb I don't see any good reason opting for a more literal translation rather than a proper localization. With Ace Attorney, a literal translation will be a lesser experience compared to a proper localization; pun names are going to fall completely flat to English readers, Japanese-centric jokes and dialog will make little sense, and it won't remain consistent with the rest of the series.
Well if you think it's dumb you're always free to fuck-off and do it yourself...
Good post, really contributed to this thread. You refuted my points spectacularly.
No, your arguments are actually pretty good, but the tone was rude - so I decided to answer in the same way. Anyway, they took a huge chunk of someone else's translation (with permission) so it's already decided.
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We are considering doing a literal translation first, and perhaps once that is finished, if people are up to the task, we will localize it later.
In other words, we're playing it safe. Some people complained with the AAI2 fan translation, saying that the original translation was botched and the localizers for that game had too much freedom. Whether or not that was true, it is up to each individual's interpretation.
If anything, we are thinking of releasing sort of like T/L notes to go along with patch releases. No promises though.
We are considering doing a literal translation first, and perhaps once that is finished, if people are up to the task, we will localize it later.
In other words, we're playing it safe. Some people complained with the AAI2 fan translation, saying that the original translation was botched and the localizers for that game had too much freedom. Whether or not that was true, it is up to each individual's interpretation.
If anything, we are thinking of releasing sort of like T/L notes to go along with patch releases. No promises though.
I think that's a good approach, since you already have most of the game translated. How much is still missing, do you still need help translating it? Or are you covered with @kikuchiyo 's notes?
Not everyone is from the US. An US localization would ruin it for me, as it does with almost 99% of every Japanese game. Let us not US people enjoy games as we desire for once, thanks.
As for European players, as a team we have decided to use American spellings (Colour - Color, Rumour - Rumor).
Hope this doesn't bug you guys too much.
If it means anything, the American release of PLvAA had European spellings, so...
Hope this doesn't bug you guys too much.
If it means anything, the American release of PLvAA had European spellings, so...
Just a quick question - how will the patch be released? Will there be a layeredFS option for NTR users, a CIA patcher, or something else?
I'm sure people can correct the spellings themselves if it bugs them. I don't really mind. English is english.
Are you planning to release episodes one by one or only at the end?
I quite liked AAI2 fan translation releasing episodes 1-2-3 as a "preview" of the quality of the translation.
Thanks for the hard work
I YT the first case and enjoyed the era the game take place in. it's so different and I see why it's so hard to translate it into English.
I quite liked AAI2 fan translation releasing episodes 1-2-3 as a "preview" of the quality of the translation.
Thanks for the hard work
I YT the first case and enjoyed the era the game take place in. it's so different and I see why it's so hard to translate it into English.
Legal's good to know. If it's not too much to ask, do you guys have a (broad) release date yet? (i.e. sometime this summer, holidays, etc.)
You seem to have a misunderstanding in regards literal translations versus localizations. It's not a purely black and white thing, it's more like a scale. For example, the Persona games definitely lean more towards the literal-side of that scale, they use honorifics and keep a lot of Japanese-centric aspects because they expect their English audience (i.e. weebs) to be more familiar with Japanese culture than the average person. On the flip side, Ace Attorney has always sided heavily on the localization side of that scale and that has remained consistent throughout the entire series.
I recommend you read this blog post by the current localization director for Ace Attorney, sheds some light on the thought process that goes into localization and how much they actually change with the games
http://www.capcom-unity.com/zeroobjections/blog/2014/11/21/localization-and-ace-attorney
Who complained about the AAI2 fan translation? All I've ever seen was near universal praise from everybody, claiming that it was up-to-par, if not better, than an official Capcom translation.
There's no such things as "US localizations", you have no idea what you're talking about. A localization is a localization, there's no such thing as country specific localizations when you're dealing with one language (outside of stuff like British/American spellings of words, which is an incredibly minor issue). All Ace Attorney games have had English language localizations, so long as you have a decent grasp of the English language (which you seem to have) you'll be getting the exact same experience regardless of your country.
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It's not like they're complaining that their Slurpee is 99% ice or something, but if the cocktail calls for "shot of vodka, shot of vermouth, shot of gin, shot of Campari, three shots of juice, squirt of lemon" and ends up being a thimbleful of booze, that's a problem. -
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the funny thing is cocktails in norway are only allowed to have 1 20ml shot of booze -
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but you could buy as many shots of whisky (or anything else) as you want and ask for a glass of ice and pour them in
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There was a comparison of the number of Ibuprofen poisonings before and after they limited the maximum dosage per box or per pill (i'll look that up). No limit on the number of boxes you can still buy as many as you want, so people argued it was pointless.
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But the number of (accidental) poisonings dropped because drinking an entire package of ibuprofen pills went from "I need a new liver" to "I need a new box of Ibuprofen".
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Here we have ketoprofen that used to be prescription-only because of the risk of toxic dosages, but then they halved the dose per pill and sell them in bottles of six pills apiece instead of twenty and it doesn't need a prescription any more. Yes you can buy more than one bottle but people simply don't.
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