Pandemic Amnesty? No, people will not forgive and forget what was done to them.

[sith]

I own up to my shit wording, you at least own up to insulting someone because you didn't read their post.

ok, I am not beyond being rude unjustly, misreading/comprehending incorrectly etc, but i did read through this whole thread and I don't understand where I would have misinterpreted. i quoted when i addressed someone and at the end of the day its not a competition of who is the most correct all the time, I am speaking to defend my opinion universally against general rebuttal based on its merits alone with facts data and observation, because i say "this does this", doesn't mean someone said it didn't. Take the personal shit away and don't appeal to someones credentials/authority just make a logical argument from scratch with good premises and you can change my mind/understanding if done well, give it a try.

my simple argument:

Intramuscular inoculations have been shown to not produce the immunoglobulins required to reduce viral load and prevent infection in the nasalmucosa. Covid and the flu are respiratory illnesses that enter and shed from the nasalmucosa therefor the
current IM "vaccines" will fail to prevent infection or spread.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

@sith I apologize if I was being rude as well, but what I was trying to point out was that in a post of lolcat's they stated that normal vaccines, do in fact stop infection - but that Covid Vaccines did not.

You went on to call them out saying that they believed Covid Vaccines DID stop infection. When they clearly stated the opposite of that.

I tried pointing that out, but obviously that's where my wording mistake came in - which once again I apologize for that.

Then I tried clearing it up further only to be called a "bald faced liar" so you can imagine my frustration here.

Intramuscular inoculations have been shown to not produce the immunoglobulins required to reduce viral load and prevent infection in the nasalmucosa. Covid and the flu are respiratory illnesses that enter and shed from the nasalmucosa therefor the
current IM "vaccines" will fail to prevent infection or spread.

And like I said before, I agree with this. I wasn't opposing it.

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@sith Let me just put it again to be extra, extra clear.

This is what they said

Yes, the goal is to prevent infection and yes, it does do that.

They were stating that normal vaccines do in fact prevent infection. But that Covid Vaccines did not.


You responded to them with this.

you are going to with a straight face say covid vaccines prevent infection? what planet are you living on?

which is in fact, the opposite of what they said.

hence where you misunderstood. Get where I'm coming from?

I apologize for rudeness, but you did genuinely miss the context from the post.

 

[SG854]

IN JANUARY OF 2020, THE "WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION" TWEETED THAT THE CCP FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF TRANSMISSION BETWEEN HUMANS FOR THE NEW CHINESE VIRUS.
YOU ARE SLAVES. YOU ARE F*CKING SLAVES, YOU IGNORANT FOOLS.

Covid was a hoax. All the people that "died" are all paid actors. They still live among us. But relocated to Africa where 2pac is living right now.

They were tired of all the pronouns and politically correct libtards so they faked their death in a giant hoax so they can live in a different country peacefully. Stop exposing them and let them live peacefully.

 

[titan_tim]

institution* and nope ive never trolled ever, im just saying, im telling you something that you can argue with, as it is from science themselves, and you are trying to say its wrong, i didnt get that option before, you dont get it now.

I posted an in-depth study link to where it is fairly conclusive that it does nothing, therefore I can also fairly confidently say that it is ineffective.

Could you post the link to where the CDC says that Ivermectin is effective against COVID? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

 

[lolcatzuru]

I posted an in-depth study link to where it is fairly conclusive that it does nothing, therefore I can also fairly confidently say that it is ineffective.

Could you post the link to where the CDC says that Ivermectin is effective against COVID? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/

man denial is an ugly look

 

[titan_tim]

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/

man denial is an ugly look

LOL! So you looked for a site that mentions the word Ivermectin and COVID, and you DON'T read what it says?! Here's a little snippit for you:

"The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials"

Also:
"The FDA first issued a warning in April 2020 that ivermectin intended for use in animals should not be used to treat COVID-19 in humans. This warning was updated and reiterated in 2021"

I could leave it to you in order to go through and read their rationale through the multiple studies, but the fact that you didn't even go as far as doing a 10 second scan of the information means that you probably won't bother.

I wouldn't say that denial is ugly, more pitiful. LOL!

 

[BeniBel]

The hate is still strong it seems. People seem to forget some important facts:

- The vaccine is most countries was voluntarely. You can't hate or discriminate if something is voluntarely.

- If you have confidence your vaccin works, why hate others for not taking it? If they infect you, your vaccine should have protected you.

I did not get the vaccin, and was extremely limited in my actions. I could not travel, or enter restaurants, so I didn't contribute much to spreading the virus it would seem. However, I did get corona twice from people who were vaccinated. Not too bad, especially the last one.

I also hate the term "anti-vaxxer". I've had all my vaccinations prior, but didn't feel confident taking an expiremental shot for something that wasn't so bad for me. My mother got guilty tripped into taking it by her doctor, and passed away a few days after due to unknown cause (her medical file for the last week was locked, and her doctor refused to see me).

At the peak of corona, there was so much hate against those not taking the shot, an apalogy is indeed in place. Remember Macron from France telling he would make "the unvaccinated suffer"? How people were talking about putting those who weren't vaccinated in camps? Or how the unvaccinated kept the pandemic going, even if they weren't allowed to go anywhere. In the end, the vaccin was flawed at best, and the real issue were politicians screwing up and shifting the blame.

It did give one good insight: it showed how easily people are manipulated into hating others. We often wonder why so many people followed Hitler, and now we see why. Everyone still hating and blaming unvaccinated people for everything, would have supported the nazi's back in the day, I have no doubt about that.

 

[mrdude]

The hate is still strong it seems. People seem to forget some important facts:

- The vaccine is most countries was voluntarely. You can't hate or discriminate if something is voluntarely.

Apart from the vaccine not being tested properly and the people trying to coerce people into getting it by stopping them from going to places without a vaccine certificate etc, and the mask Nazi's stopping people from visiting loved ones..etc

My step dad had cancer and died during the lockdown and nobody could visit him. We had his funeral and only a few people were able to go to that and we were forced to wear masks and socially distance. Then my little sister had a brain tumour/operation and cancer at the same time and spent the last few months of her life being locked down with no visitors. My nephews wedding was also cancelled. So yeah, I won't forget all the crap that went on or the attitude of some people that tried to discriminate against others that didn't want to take an experimental vaccine.

 

[Maximumbeans]

It did give one good insight: it showed how easily people are manipulated into hating others. We often wonder why so many people followed Hitler, and now we see why. Everyone still hating and blaming unvaccinated people for everything, would have supported the nazi's back in the day, I have no doubt about that.

I don't condone making people suffer because they choose not to get the vaccine, but I don't think it's that simple either.

There is still a lot that remains unverified about COVID and how to treat it, prevent it, combat it, etc. This was even more true at its height, and people were understandably scared of something that was killing hundreds of thousands of people, hospitalising healthy individuals, and particularly preying on the most vulnerable. Given how easily COVID spreads, this was justified.

There were people electing not to get the vaccine for legitimate reasons such as how quickly it was released, or the fact that they'd already had COVID and it didn't really do much to them, which is fine.

Then you had people who didn't want to get the vaccine because:
"It contains mercury."
"It's going to give me or my offspring autism."
"It's going to let Bill Gates track my movements."
"It's going to disrupt my energy field."
"It's all part of a push by the WEF to shove society into a cashless society where they control my every move and—"

What people understandably saw were others who were shunning a vaccine that would help somewhat protect society for reasons that were unscientific, hearsay, or otherwise absolutely insane nonsense that they'd read on Facebook (or, god forbid, here).

Again, I don't condone hatred for those people, but it's not hard to understand the anger generated by people making selfish choices based on ignorance. Which, if you absolutely must invoke good old Godwin's Law, is a little Nazi-ish itself, no?

 

[City]

I’m pro-vaccine but I found the various celebrations for no-vaxxers dying to be tasteless. Especially considering how these people, who wanted maskless people to die, seem to all support the 2020 riots where the pandemic was conveniently put on hold.

 

[sombrerosonic]

I’m pro-vaccine but I found the various celebrations for no-vaxxers dying to be tasteless. Especially considering how these people, who wanted maskless people to die, seem to all support the 2020 riots where the pandemic was conveniently put on hold.

People who do that are just asses

 

[lolcatzuru]

LOL! So you looked for a site that mentions the word Ivermectin and COVID, and you DON'T read what it says?! Here's a little snippit for you:

"The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials"

Also:
"The FDA first issued a warning in April 2020 that ivermectin intended for use in animals should not be used to treat COVID-19 in humans. This warning was updated and reiterated in 2021"

I could leave it to you in order to go through and read their rationale through the multiple studies, but the fact that you didn't even go as far as doing a 10 second scan of the information means that you probably won't bother.

I wouldn't say that denial is ugly, more pitiful. LOL!

it doesn't matter, thats a governmental website, they listed it, obviously they have to say not to use it to convince you to get your miocarditis shots, but at least im not an anti government maga like you, respect the institution, oh and do yourself a favor, dont listen to some grifter doctor next time ok.

 

[stanna]

All the vaxxed are fucked end of, leave them with it, drop the mic.

 

[TraderPatTX]

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but people do realize that this amnesty is not coming from the right. It's the left who have regrets about how they acted, treated others and their horrid policy decisions based on nothing but feelings.

I look forward to many more pleas for amnesty from the left over the next couple of years. Will it work? Doubtful.

LOLGF, lefties. We tried to warn ya.

 

[titan_tim]

it doesn't matter, thats a governmental website, they listed it, obviously they have to say not to use it to convince you to get your miocarditis shots, but at least im not an anti government maga like you, respect the institution, oh and do yourself a favor, dont listen to some grifter doctor next time ok.

In one comment, you said to respect the institution, and then you go on to ignore the government website that said that it was unsafe to use. The same site that YOU POSTED YOURSELF! You say that I'm anti government, when once again, you go on to ignore the government website that YOU POSTED YOURSELF!

I asked for the CDC website that says that ivermectin is a legitimate treatment for COVID, and you failed miserably. It would be one thing to give me a site that was lying, but instead you gave a government site that outright refuted your claim. You can't fail much more than that.

Once again, denial is horribly pitiful. Seek help.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned, but people do realize that this amnesty is not coming from the right. It's the left who have regrets about how they acted, treated others and their horrid policy decisions based on nothing but feelings.

I look forward to many more pleas for amnesty from the left over the next couple of years. Will it work? Doubtful.

LOLGF, lefties. We tried to warn ya.

Oh Pat, you think we have regrets for treating you like the morons that you were/are? No. Not in the slightest.

There were no feelings, just statistics. People 65 and over were 4.5 times more likely to be hospitalized if they hadn't gotten the vaccine. So you see what happened? Your side killed off your own population of deniers, and helped multiple extremely close midterm elections go to the left!

Thanks!

 

[lolcatzuru]

In one comment, you said to respect the institution, and then you go on to ignore the government website that said that it was unsafe to use. The same site that YOU POSTED YOURSELF! You say that I'm anti government, when once again, you go on to ignore the government website that YOU POSTED YOURSELF!

I asked for the CDC website that says that ivermectin is a legitimate treatment for COVID, and you failed miserably. It would be one thing to give me a site that was lying, but instead you gave a government site that outright refuted your claim. You can't fail much more than that.

Once again, denial is horribly pitiful. Seek help.

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Oh Pat, you think we have regrets for treating you like the morons that you were/are? No. Not in the slightest.

There were no feelings, just statistics. People 65 and over were 4.5 times more likely to be hospitalized if they hadn't gotten the vaccine. So you see what happened? Your side killed off your own population of deniers, and helped multiple extremely close midterm elections go to the left!

Thanks!

look its ok to be mad that you were wrong, you dont need to take it out on people.

 

[titan_tim]

look its ok to be mad that you were wrong, you dont need to take it out on people.

Ok, I guess I'll continue to watch the poor worm on the hook squirm.

Please tell me, where was I wrong?

 

[Dooz]

I wish that I didn't read this thread. I just get so depressed.

The irony of many of the COVID deniers is that so many of them are claiming to defend free democratic society and yet they support fascist politicians.

There's no point in arguing with the willfully ignorant, though. In fact, arguing with them will likely just strengthen their resolve, since those ideas usually revolve around a self-percieved victim mentality. You just gotta never concede that the deniers are wrong, don't be mean to them (COVID deniers are the biggest snowflakes), and offer evidence. They will ignore everything that you have to say because they are the only ones that will decide to stop being full of shit, so you just have to wait for them to decide to stop being assholes.

Edit: I wrote, "You just gotta never concede that the deniers are wrong," and I meant, "You just gotta never concede that the deniers are right."

 

[lolcatzuru]

Ok, I guess I'll continue to watch the poor worm on the hook squirm.

Please tell me, where was I wrong?

you used some grifter science when i quoted from the gods themselves, that where you were wrong.

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I wish that I didn't read this thread. I just get so depressed.

The irony of many of the COVID deniers is that so many of them are claiming to defend free democratic society and yet they support fascist politicians.

There's no point in arguing with the willfully ignorant, though. In fact, arguing with them will likely just strengthen their resolve, since those ideas usually revolve around a self-percieved victim mentality. You just gotta never concede that the deniers are wrong, don't be mean to them (COVID deniers are the biggest snowflakes), and offer evidence. They will ignore everything that you have to say because they are the only ones that will decide to stop being full of shit, so you just have to wait for them to decide to stop being assholes.

i dont support a democractic society, i support a republic just for the record, and also who's the fascist? i dont remember that happening.

 

[LainaGabranth]

among us

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I’m pro-vaccine but I found the various celebrations for no-vaxxers dying to be tasteless. Especially considering how these people, who wanted maskless people to die, seem to all support the 2020 riots where the pandemic was conveniently put on hold.

I supported the riots because they were actually for something more important than "WAAAH ME NO LIKE NEEDLE"