Pandemic Amnesty? No, people will not forgive and forget what was done to them.

[tabzer]

This video covers perfectly why we'll never forgive and never forget. It's absolutely disgusting to hear them say it themselves, but goes to show why freedom should never be taken for granted.



Our ancestors died to keep us free and these dictators wanted to get us under control under the pretense of "health."

This seems like a "soft 9/11". There seems to be a higher power, wanting us to become smarter. The government does not love you. Wake up sheeple.

 

[sith]

minox what the fuck ? i refuted the lies told by omgcat with solid facts and spelt out scientific evidence and you delete all of it, this is an off-topic political opinions chat why do you have a problem with people hearing the truth?? stop running defence for these obviously disingenuous villians, I'm trying to help people snap out of their brainwashed head in the sand perspectives and not only do i gotta deal with the dumb shits in question but also the mod staff??

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Yes, the goal is to prevent infection and yes, it does do that.

you are going to with a straight face say covid vaccines prevent infection? what planet are you living on?
can't believe how many here will still spew this.. again IM injections won't make IGAs in nasal airways https://doctors4covidethics.org/immunology-101-why-intramuscular-covid-19-vaccination-must-fail/
and here where only intra-nasal vaccines were able to prevent infection
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9638159/

 

[Minox]

minox what the fuck ? i refuted the lies told by omgcat with solid facts and spelt out scientific evidence and you delete all of it, this is an off-topic political opinions chat why do you have a problem with people hearing the truth?? stop running defence for these obviously disingenuous villians, I'm trying to help people snap out of their brainwashed head in the sand perspectives and not only do i gotta deal with the dumb shits in question but also the mod staff??

You're defeating no points by being rude and personally attacking people. Please lay that off and your refutations surely hold more weight.

 

[sith]

Its hardly rude to tell someone exactly how they are wrong after they say you have brain damage. They couldn't even read what was very clearly said without taking it to mean the exact opposite of its intention.

You're defeating no points by being rude and personally attacking people. Please lay that off and your refutations surely hold more weight.

the honest truth as it directly relates to the OP is - If you still think forced experimental ineffective vaccines and unethical mandates against the charter of rights was the right thing to do or that others who resisted/denied the abuse are anything other than free individuals expressing their inalienable charter rights of opinion and expression then you do DESERVE TO BE ATTACKED PERSONALLY (verbally of course) as thats exactly what those people have done to others these last years.

Its high time to become the monster and fight a fair fight. Being nice is the reason we got our rights trampled on and the truckers freedom convoy was dispersed so easily by an illegal invocation of the emergencies act, the altruistic people there fighting for every individuals rights, including those whom they disagree with, are the principled and critical minded that wouldn't stoop so low, so someone has to.. i guess its me. If they are gonna try an slam me with inaccurate derogatory "anti-vaxxer" labels then i should call them what they are, stupid motherless neo-fascists authoritarians.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Dudes will post a clip from some UK group no one gives a fuck about (even in the UK!) and then go "SEE?? SEE?? THE ENTIRE AMERICAN MEDIA IS APOLOGIZING NOW!"

The mind of the anti-vaxxer is truly...an enigma.

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Its hardly rude to tell someone exactly how they are wrong after they say you have brain damage. They couldn't even read what was very clearly said without taking it to mean the exact opposite of its intention.



the honest truth as it directly relates to the OP is - If you still think forced experimental ineffective vaccines and unethical mandates against the charter of rights was the right thing to do or that others who resisted/denied the abuse are anything other than free individuals expressing their inalienable charter rights of opinion and expression then you do DESERVE TO BE ATTACKED PERSONALLY (verbally of course) as thats exactly what those people have done to others these last years.

Its high time to become the monster and fight a fair fight. Being nice is the reason we got our rights trampled on and the truckers freedom convoy was dispersed so easily by an illegal invocation of the emergencies act, the altruistic people there fighting for every individuals rights, including those whom they disagree with, are the principled and critical minded that wouldn't stoop so low, so someone has to.. i guess its me. If they are gonna try an slam me with inaccurate derogatory "anti-vaxxer" labels then i should call them what they are, stupid motherless neo-fascists authoritarians.

You're not oppressed and never will be.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

you are going to with a straight face say covid vaccines prevent infection? what planet are you living on?

Not what they said at all. If you looked at the post history between me and them you'll see that I pointed out several times that Covid Vaccines don't aim to prevent infection - which they agreed with.

 

[sith]

Not what they said at all. If you looked at the post history between me and them you'll see that I pointed out several times that Covid Vaccines don't aim to prevent infection - which they agreed with.

are you joking? trolling? if not then you are all completely WRONG then. Clearly the aim of ALL vaccines is to program the body against infection and spread, fauci said the "Gold Standard" of vaccines was to be equal to the naturally acquired IMMUNITY. i just posted the article (before it was censored by minox) exploring nasal aspiration delivery to enable secretory IGA and overcome the the obvious limitations of current vaxs.... that they don't do what they were engineered to do, prevent spread.

its hilarious that after years of it being sold on "stop the spread" and "do it for your grandma and neighbour" and everyone fired from hospitals, you are gonna try and do a sort of "no true scotsman" fallacy and reframe it as if it was always to just lower the mortality and symptoms of a nonleathal (now) virus. my inclination is to again to conclude with a "fuck off with that disingenous garbage" but minox would get mad.

https://googlethatforyou.com?q=what is the aim of vaccines

 

[Cylent1]

The unvaxxed are the new "Pure Blood"!
And I don't have any apathy to the ones that did get the tyrannicall jab that never worked and isnt ever going to work!
Call me what you will but in the future I know for a damn fact I will not be one of those covid jab statistics!
What ever happen to being better safe than sorry?

 

[Deleted member 571007]

Clearly the aim of ALL vaccines is to program the body against infection and spread, fauci said the "Gold Standard" of vaccines was to be equal to the naturally acquired IMMUNITY. i just posted the article (before it was censored by minox) exploring nasal aspiration delivery to enable secretory IGA and overcome the the obvious limitations of current vaxs.... that they don't do what they were engineered to do, prevent spread.

Not refuting this. The aim of a Vaccine is indeed stopping infection and spread. However I never said anything against that.

What I was saying is that the Covid vaccine as it is currently - does not do that. Like I said in my other post (that you no doubt neglected to read, so once again, missing context) Covid is just too unpredictable to have any actual measures against it. It mutates too much, and put quite simply - it's different from most other viruses. This means that fighting it the same way as other viruses wont always work. The only thing we can really do is reinforce our bodies to minimize symptoms or prevent hospitalization since we quite literally cannot easily create any immunity against it as of right now.

Take another look at the Flu (for the third time in my posts, which once again I doubt you even looked at) It's another virus that has an absurdly fast and unpredictable mutation cycle, and we can't always predict which strain might blow around Flu Season, and guess what? Not every Flu Vaccine works for every Flu strain, therefore not every Flu Vaccine prevents infection. It's the same with Covid except on a much larger and even more unpredictable scale - so much so that the Covid Vaccines, don't provide any actual immunity to Covid.

But of course you'd rather assume what I'm talking about rather than reading what I actually said. Because if you bothered to read my posts, you would see that I was agreeing with you on some of your points.

Let me summarize again. The current Covid Vaccines don't prevent infection, nor stop the spread of it. I'm not trolling, joking, or being an idiot. I was agreeing with you, but maybe you just didn't see that because once again, you didn't bother to read my posts, now did you?

@lolcatzuru Was stating that normal Vaccines, aim to provide immunity, and stop spread / infection. They in no way stated that the Covid vaccine does the same thing. I went on to say this as well, and guess what? They also agreed.

Which once again, shows that you didn't. read. the. damn. posts.

By the way, why are you assuming that I'm re-framing the vaccine? I always thought of it this way, and I was also against the mandates. The Covid vaccine never prevented infection, and it works in such a way that I actually disagree with even calling it a "vaccine". Which guess what? That's another thing I said in my posts! Oh wow! Looks like getting context about a situation before you comment on it makes a difference after all!

 

[Rena_to84]

IN JANUARY OF 2020, THE "WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION" TWEETED THAT THE CCP FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF TRANSMISSION BETWEEN HUMANS FOR THE NEW CHINESE VIRUS.
YOU ARE SLAVES. YOU ARE F*CKING SLAVES, YOU IGNORANT FOOLS.

 

[lolcatzuru]

Not refuting this. The aim of a Vaccine is indeed stopping infection and spread. However I never said anything against that.

What I was saying is that the Covid vaccine as it is currently - does not do that. Like I said in my other post (that you no doubt neglected to read, so once again, missing context) Covid is just too unpredictable to have any actual measures against it. It mutates too much, and put quite simply - it's different from most other viruses. This means that fighting it the same way as other viruses wont always work. The only thing we can really do is reinforce our bodies to minimize symptoms or prevent hospitalization since we quite literally cannot easily create any immunity against it as of right now.

Take another look at the Flu (for the third time in my posts, which once again I doubt you even looked at) It's another virus that has an absurdly fast and unpredictable mutation cycle, and we can't always predict which strain might blow around Flu Season, and guess what? Not every Flu Vaccine works for every Flu strain, therefore not every Flu Vaccine prevents infection. It's the same with Covid except on a much larger and even more unpredictable scale - so much so that the Covid Vaccines, don't provide any actual immunity to Covid.

But of course you'd rather assume what I'm talking about rather than reading what I actually said. Because if you bothered to read my posts, you would see that I was agreeing with you on some of your points.

Let me summarize again. The current Covid Vaccines don't prevent infection, nor stop the spread of it. I'm not trolling, joking, or being an idiot. I was agreeing with you, but maybe you just didn't see that because once again, you didn't bother to read my posts, now did you?

@lolcatzuru Was stating that normal Vaccines, aim to provide immunity, and stop spread / infection. They in no way stated that the Covid vaccine does the same thing. I went on to say this as well, and guess what? They also agreed.

Which once again, shows that you didn't. read. the. damn. posts.

By the way, why are you assuming that I'm re-framing the vaccine? I always thought of it this way, and I was also against the mandates. The Covid vaccine never prevented infection, and it works in such a way that I actually disagree with even calling it a "vaccine". Which guess what? That's another thing I said in my posts! Oh wow! Looks like getting context about a situation before you comment on it makes a difference after all!

hes the problem you lied because they did say EXACTLY that. i have proof if youd love to see it.

 

[titan_tim]

ahh an anti science racist, the cdc confirms ivermectin is a preventative, try to avoid using conspiracies in the future, thanks.

Not sure if anyone later on in the posts pointed this out to you, but it's already been pretty conclusive that it does nothing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninash...us-placebo-to-treat-covid-19/?sh=273171433bcd

This study came out late last month, and shows that even a placebo can have more positive effects than ivermectin. So if you want to follow the science, it's been pretty conclusive.

 

[lolcatzuru]

Not sure if anyone later on in the posts pointed this out to you, but it's already been pretty conclusive that it does nothing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninash...us-placebo-to-treat-covid-19/?sh=273171433bcd

This study came out late last month, and shows that even a placebo can have more positive effects than ivermectin. So if you want to follow the science, it's been pretty conclusive.

ahh more racists, trust your institutions, the cdc wouldnt haven it on their site if it didnt work, you maga extremist.

 

[titan_tim]

ahh more racists, trust your institutions, the cdc wouldnt haven it on their site if it didnt work, you maga extremist.

First: Racist? Whatever.....

Second: You talked about following the scientific method, and then you switch to "trust your intuition"? Intuition needs to be followed by testing your theories. Those theories were tested, and now we have an answer. It's as useful as a placebo.

Third: MAGA extremist? You DO know who was pushing ivermectin in the first place, right?

Fourth: This must just be a troll trying to get attention or extreme sarcasm. Nobody can be THAT obtuse.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

hes the problem you lied because they did say EXACTLY that. i have proof if youd love to see it.

Hold on can you re-word this? As I'm not sure if this is directed to be an insult towards me. Genuine confusion here.

Because this dude (sith) took something you said out of context and basically called you an idiot for it - I was trying to defend what you said, and by extension what I had said as well.

 

[lolcatzuru]

First: Racist? Whatever.....

Second: You talked about following the scientific method, and then you switch to "trust your intuition"? Intuition needs to be followed by testing your theories. Those theories were tested, and now we have an answer. It's as useful as a placebo.

Third: MAGA extremist? You DO know who was pushing ivermectin in the first place, right?

Fourth: This must just be a troll trying to get attention or extreme sarcasm. Nobody can be THAT obtuse.

institution* and nope ive never trolled ever, im just saying, im telling you something that you can argue with, as it is from science themselves, and you are trying to say its wrong, i didnt get that option before, you dont get it now.

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Hold on can you re-word this? As I'm not sure if this is directed to be an insult towards me. Genuine confusion here.

Because this dude (sith) took something you said out of context and basically called you an idiot for it - I was trying to defend what you said, and by extension what I had said as well.

i think we are getting wires crossed as i generally dont rea WoTS

 

[stanna]

https://openvaers.com/ of course all these are just coincidence.

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https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality scary stuff.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Vaccines are based and mandates are more based.

 

[sith]

If you looked at the post history between me and them you'll see that I pointed out several times that Covid Vaccines don't aim to prevent infection - which they agreed with.

The aim of a Vaccine is indeed stopping infection and spread. However I never said anything against that.

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[Deleted member 571007]

@sith Yes, my wording is bad. I get where I went wrong. But that doesn't change what I meant, and the fact that I agreed with the main idea of your posts.

Plus you took what the other person said out of context.

I own up to my shit wording, you at least own up to insulting someone because you didn't read their post.

-snip-

Little harsh there don't you think? Once again, yes my wording was bad, and yes I admit that. Do you want me to fix it or not? Because my point was that the Covid Vaccines dont stop infection, regardless of whether or not they aim to do so. I never meant to say that they never aimed to, but like I said. my shit wording is at fault here. Which I own up to.

The fact of the matter here is that I'm not the only one who did anything wrong here. You took what the other person said, out of context, and took the exact opposite point from what they said.

Lets look at it again, shall we?

Yes, the goal is to prevent infection and yes, it does do that.

This is what lolcat said, saying what NORMAL Vaccines do. AKA not the COVID Vaccines? And you went on to say this

you are going to with a straight face say covid vaccines prevent infection? what planet are you living on?

which is the exact OPPOSITE of what they were conveying.

Like I said, I own up to my shit wording. Own up to taking shit out of context because you can't bother to read.

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@sith Are you just going to be an asshole because I made a wording mistake, one that I owned up to.

But not even amend the fact that you blatantly didn't even read the person's post before getting the exact opposite point from them, then proceeding to call them out for a point they never even made?

I guess we know your priorities then.