Gaming Official Nintendo Debug Carts Thread

[stanleyopar2000]

my cyclods sees it as a nintendo commericial rom.... if i hit info it doesnt say its Homebrew :/ Yet it works on SudukoHax so its strange isnt it?

Not at all. Commercial games have part of the serial code in the file header (the middle 4 letters). Homebrew almost alsway has '####' instead. That is the easiest way to tell commercial from homebrew. As DS homebrew was invented long after commercial games and has nothing do with Nintendo at all, there is no reason why this debug demo would have '####' as its serial code.

Is it possible to edit the serial code in the file header of commercial games to '####' ?

Yes, no problem. Wont do you any good though.

Well I was just thinking how the iPlayer cart tells homebrew roms from commercial roms. If it is possible to edit a commercial rom, so that the iPlayer recognized it as a homebrew rom, running commercial roms with iPlayer would be possible, but I think it wont work, huh?

There's a lot more to do than just knowing the difference. Commercial roms need to be patched a lot to work from a flash cart, homebrew doesn't. If the rom doesn't get patched in the correct way for the individual flash cart, then it just wont work. That's why all of the different flash carts use different loaders.

agreed. look at all the patching you had to do to get commercial ROMS to run on Supercard slot 2 devices!!

and even sometimes then It wasn't perfect

 

[WiiUBricker]

There's a lot more to do than just knowing the difference. Commercial roms need to be patched a lot to work from a flash cart, homebrew doesn't. If the rom doesn't get patched in the correct way for the individual flash cart, then it just wont work. That's why all of the different flash carts use different loaders.

You're right. I just ####'d a commercial rom and the iPlayer attempted to load it, but ended up with a black screen. Well at least we now know how the iPlayer tells homebrew from commercial roms.

Edit: Dammit, I just broke the latching mechanism of my shitty iPlayer.

 

[SifJar]

I'm pretty sure people knew that ages ago. I remember people talking about how one or two specific ROMs work, I think by this method. (Can't remember which game(s), I think it was Normatt that said it)

 

[Foxi4]

Despite some people who can't stand an individuals opinion who should be posting at another site,

YES..thank you

And here we go again.

You just don't know when to stop, do you? Seems like alot of Stanleys have that problem.

Somebody

STOP ME!

...but they're mostly clowns.

 

[domon_god1]

can this thing reflash dsi or repair it because of 3d dsiware transfer download that damage my dsi? thanks!

 

[loco365]

can this thing reflash dsi or repair it because of 3d dsiware transfer download that damage my dsi? thanks!

No, it will not. If your DSi is damaged from the DSiWare transfer app, call Nintendo about it. They can send you a new one or repair the old one.

 

[dicamarques]

So NintendyFan any update?

 

[NintendyFan]

So NintendyFan any update?

I'm waiting on some contact tape to come in to attempt to a get a few of the other carts to work.

Other than that, not really. I came up with a solution recently for anyone with a bugged out Age of Empires Age of Kings game ( we had a bunch at work, so I dug into it)..

Using the Start + Select menu solution for the Debug Rom, I managed to get to the menu from the "Flicker" cart I've got ( which is the rom that was passed around ).

I've also come across a strange cart that when inserted into your DS, shuts it off. The only way to turn it back on is to plug in the power and start up the system. ( It goes without saying that I cannot dump the rom from this cart as it always shuts down the system when inserted.. hah )


That's about it for now guys.

 

[TheDreamLord]

my cyclods sees it as a nintendo commericial rom.... if i hit info it doesnt say its Homebrew :/ Yet it works on SudukoHax so its strange isnt it?

Not at all. Commercial games have part of the serial code in the file header (the middle 4 letters). Homebrew almost alsway has '####' instead. That is the easiest way to tell commercial from homebrew. As DS homebrew was invented long after commercial games and has nothing do with Nintendo at all, there is no reason why this debug demo would have '####' as its serial code.

then how does sudukohax run it...?

 

[NintendyFan]

my cyclods sees it as a nintendo commericial rom.... if i hit info it doesnt say its Homebrew :/ Yet it works on SudukoHax so its strange isnt it?

Not at all. Commercial games have part of the serial code in the file header (the middle 4 letters). Homebrew almost alsway has '####' instead. That is the easiest way to tell commercial from homebrew. As DS homebrew was invented long after commercial games and has nothing do with Nintendo at all, there is no reason why this debug demo would have '####' as its serial code.

then how does sudukohax run it...?

It's a Nintendo program without commercial protection.

 

[dicamarques]

So NintendyFan any update?

I'm waiting on some contact tape to come in to attempt to a get a few of the other carts to work.

Other than that, not really. I came up with a solution recently for anyone with a bugged out Age of Empires Age of Kings game ( we had a bunch at work, so I dug into it)..

Using the Start + Select menu solution for the Debug Rom, I managed to get to the menu from the "Flicker" cart I've got ( which is the rom that was passed around ).

I've also come across a strange cart that when inserted into your DS, shuts it off. The only way to turn it back on is to plug in the power and start up the system. ( It goes without saying that I cannot dump the rom from this cart as it always shuts down the system when inserted.. hah )


That's about it for now guys.

Probably a bad contact on that cart?

 

[NintendyFan]

So NintendyFan any update?

I'm waiting on some contact tape to come in to attempt to a get a few of the other carts to work.

Other than that, not really. I came up with a solution recently for anyone with a bugged out Age of Empires Age of Kings game ( we had a bunch at work, so I dug into it)..

Using the Start + Select menu solution for the Debug Rom, I managed to get to the menu from the "Flicker" cart I've got ( which is the rom that was passed around ).

I've also come across a strange cart that when inserted into your DS, shuts it off. The only way to turn it back on is to plug in the power and start up the system. ( It goes without saying that I cannot dump the rom from this cart as it always shuts down the system when inserted.. hah )


That's about it for now guys.

Probably a bad contact on that cart?

It's very possible. It's not my "Death Cart" gag cart. My brother was testing some DS games with his DSi and I told him to test this one out for me. He freaked out when he couldn't turn the system back on.. lol.

 

[dicamarques]

Btw heres something interesting

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog...lus-p-3018.html

 

[NintendyFan]

Btw heres something interesting

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/catalog...lus-p-3018.html

It is interesting.. but not quite $40.00 interesting for me.. XD

 

[dicamarques]

lol

But probably you can dump that 2008 cart

 

[NintendyFan]

lol

But probably you can dump that 2008 cart

Hmm.. maybe. I really don't see how this could be any different than using Wood r27 or NDS Back-up Tool 0.4.

I'll save the link and look into down the road when I'm out of options.

The contact tape should arrive sometime within the next week which should aid in repairing some of these carts.

 

[dicamarques]

or
http://www.ic2005.com/shop/product.php?pro...&featured=Y

A little more expensive, 50$

you ma want to read this http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php?topic=6419.0

Its different because you dont need a ds or cart swap, and it probably would work on auto boot carts.

 

[SifJar]

It would most likely make zero difference and would just be a complete waste of money.

 

[NintendyFan]

Last of the original Pre-release of the DS Nitro carts that have been repaired is up for bids on eBay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=160612582083

 

[loco365]

Last of the original Pre-release of the DS Nitro carts that have been repaired is up for bids on eBay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=160612582083

Dang. If it was a BIN I'd take it in a heartbeat.