Hacking NORwegian Teensy PS3 NAND/NOR Downgraders (Socket, Clip, and Ultimate)

[Zeigren]

I've been working on a couple of custom boards to aid in PS3 downgrading.

So far I've made the NORwegian Teensy Socket Edition, which I made a GitHub wiki for if you're interested in more info about it https://github.com/Zeigren/NORwegianTeensy/wiki/NORwegian-Teensy-Socket-Edition

Essentially it makes it easier to downgrade both NAND and NOR PS3s. Just desolder the NAND or NOR, plop it in the matching socket, and use the Teensy++ 2.0 with NANDway or NORway to downgrade.

I'm also working on a Ultimate and a Clip Edition. The Ultimate Edition has the two sockets and supports four different clip styles: NOR E3 Flasher Clip, NOR 360 Uni Clip, NAND 360 Uni Clip, and NAND 32pin 360 clip. It has also been designed so it can be powered using a microUSB cable with a 2 Amp phone charger.

The Clip Edition is the same as the Ultimate Edition, but without the two sockets.

I have the schematics for those all set I'm just working on doing the actual board layouts. I'm trying to see if I can get away with using a two layer PCB for the Clip Edition, but I for sure am going to have to use a four layer for the Ultimate. There are just way too many signal traces.

 

[jellybeangreen2]

I've been working on a couple of custom boards to aid in PS3 downgrading.

So far I've made the NORwegian Teensy Socket Edition, which I made a GitHub wiki for if you're interested in more info about it https://github.com/Zeigren/NORwegianTeensy/wiki/NORwegian-Teensy-Socket-Edition

Essentially it makes it easier to downgrade both NAND and NOR PS3s. Just desolder the NAND or NOR, plop it in the matching socket, and use the Teensy++ 2.0 with NANDway or NORway to downgrade.

I'm also working on a Ultimate and a Clip Edition. The Ultimate Edition has the two sockets and supports four different clip styles: NOR E3 Flasher Clip, NOR 360 Uni Clip, NAND 360 Uni Clip, and NAND 32pin 360 clip. It has also been designed so it can be powered using a microUSB cable with a 2 Amp phone charger.

The Clip Edition is the same as the Ultimate Edition, but without the two sockets.

I have the schematics for those all set I'm just working on doing the actual board layouts. I'm trying to see if I can get away with using a two layer PCB for the Clip Edition, but I for sure am going to have to use a four layer for the Ultimate. There are just way too many signal traces.

Looks nice. If I didn’t already own an E3 then I would have bought this. However, you mention desoldering the nand / nor? Do you mean on your board or the PS3 motherboard?

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I've been working on a couple of custom boards to aid in PS3 downgrading.

So far I've made the NORwegian Teensy Socket Edition, which I made a GitHub wiki for if you're interested in more info about it https://github.com/Zeigren/NORwegianTeensy/wiki/NORwegian-Teensy-Socket-Edition

Essentially it makes it easier to downgrade both NAND and NOR PS3s. Just desolder the NAND or NOR, plop it in the matching socket, and use the Teensy++ 2.0 with NANDway or NORway to downgrade.

I'm also working on a Ultimate and a Clip Edition. The Ultimate Edition has the two sockets and supports four different clip styles: NOR E3 Flasher Clip, NOR 360 Uni Clip, NAND 360 Uni Clip, and NAND 32pin 360 clip. It has also been designed so it can be powered using a microUSB cable with a 2 Amp phone charger.

The Clip Edition is the same as the Ultimate Edition, but without the two sockets.

I have the schematics for those all set I'm just working on doing the actual board layouts. I'm trying to see if I can get away with using a two layer PCB for the Clip Edition, but I for sure am going to have to use a four layer for the Ultimate. There are just way too many signal traces.

So it's not actually made by a Norwegian? I am disappointed

 

[Zeigren]

Yeah I'm kind of late to the game with this. On the PS3 motherboard.

Unfortunately no, I'm not a Norwegian I have Norwegian ancestors but they would have been like my great-great-great grandparents lol

 

[DinohScene]

It certainly looks very sweet, however I don't think you'd get much movement from it as desoldering the NAND isn't something that a lot of people do.
Only the hardcore modders who have plenty of experience with it will do it.

Still, it is a very neat solution!
One which also could be used to swap out chips with a lot of bad blocks.

 

[Zeigren]

That's pretty much why I'm going to make the clip edition, that and I'm having fun designing these boards

 

[Ritsuki]

Looks super interesting ! I gave up on the PS3 scene, and haven't touched my PS3 for years now. I would definitely buy one if you manage to do the clip version !

 

[DinohScene]

That's pretty much why I'm going to make the clip edition, that and I'm having fun designing these boards

You should design something that'll easily lift off the IHS of the CPU and GPU.
It would save a lot of PS3's from a early YLOD and possible death.

 

[Zeigren]

You should design something that'll easily lift off the IHS of the CPU and GPU.
It would save a lot of PS3's from a early YLOD and possible death.

I know they have delidders for regular PC CPUs. Maybe those could be used/modified. I technically could design and make one but I have zero experience actual getting something like that made and I don't own any equipment to churn that stuff out on my own.

EDIT: Just ordered the clip edition boards! They're quite a bit more complex then my socket edition boards so hopefully everything works on them the first time lol. I added a little surprise to the board that I think everyone will like

 

[Zeigren]

Here it is!

The NORwegian Teensy Clip Edition!

It can:
READ/WRITE NANDs WITH THE E3 NOR CLIP
READ/WRITE NORs WITH THE E3 NOR CLIP
Read/write NANDs with the 360 clip (32 pin)
Read/write NANDs with the NAND UNI Clip (48 pin)
Read/write NANDs with the NOR UNI Clip (56 pin)
Read/write NORs with the NOR UNI Clip (56 pin)
Can be powered over microUSB with a 2 amp phone charger, no external power supply needed

Instead of using GitHub wiki I moved everything over to GitHub pages
https://zeigren.github.io/
Which contains more info about both boards, and is where I'll post further stuff I'm working on (I'll post here too)
BUT ALSO
I made a guide on how to use both boards. It's a work in progress, but it's mostly there.
Even though it's geared towards my boards a bunch of it is useful for anyone downgrading, especially using a Teensy.

 

[jellybeangreen2]

Here it is!

The NORwegian Teensy Clip Edition!

It can:
READ/WRITE NANDs WITH THE E3 NOR CLIP
READ/WRITE NORs WITH THE E3 NOR CLIP
Read/write NANDs with the 360 clip (32 pin)
Read/write NANDs with the NAND UNI Clip (48 pin)
Read/write NANDs with the NOR UNI Clip (56 pin)
Read/write NORs with the NOR UNI Clip (56 pin)
Can be powered over microUSB with a 2 amp phone charger, no external power supply needed

Instead of using GitHub wiki I moved everything over to GitHub pages
https://zeigren.github.io/
Which contains more info about both boards, and is where I'll post further stuff I'm working on (I'll post here too)
BUT ALSO
I made a guide on how to use both boards. It's a work in progress, but it's mostly there.
Even though it's geared towards my boards a bunch of it is useful for anyone downgrading, especially using a Teensy.

Nice, price?

 

[Zeigren]

https://zeigren.github.io/hardware/

Don't mind me, just tip toeing through forum rules

 

[Zeigren]

I know this isn't super relevant for PS3s anymore but since I still get emails about them here's a bit of an update on my NORwegian boards. I stopped working on my NORwegian boards and other solutions, and instead have made a bunch of clip adapters for the FlashcatUSB xPort. Which completely replaces what I was working on before.

It makes more sense to just make these for the xPort since it has better software support, works with 100's of different flashes, and has almost 3x faster transfer speeds along with a bunch of other useful features. All while still being about the same price as a Teensy++ 2.0. This way these clip adapters can easily be used for much more than just dumping and flashing PS3 NANDs/NORs.

I made a matching clip adapter for each of the TSOP48/TSOP56 NAND/NOR parallel socket adapters that they currently sell, with some extras for supporting different clip styles along with a probably overkill power supply to sit on top of everything #stacked. Instead of reiterating everything here you can just check out my website for more info.

 

[gorgyrip]

I realize that this is super old, but can you please add support for TC58DVM92A5TA00?

 

[lawlietl4]

Here it is!

The NORwegian Teensy Clip Edition!

It can:
READ/WRITE NANDs WITH THE E3 NOR CLIP
READ/WRITE NORs WITH THE E3 NOR CLIP
Read/write NANDs with the 360 clip (32 pin)
Read/write NANDs with the NAND UNI Clip (48 pin)
Read/write NANDs with the NOR UNI Clip (56 pin)
Read/write NORs with the NOR UNI Clip (56 pin)
Can be powered over microUSB with a 2 amp phone charger, no external power supply needed

Instead of using GitHub wiki I moved everything over to GitHub pages
Which contains more info about both boards, and is where I'll post further stuff I'm working on (I'll post here too)
BUT ALSO
I made a guide on how to use both boards. It's a work in progress, but it's mostly there.
Even though it's geared towards my boards a bunch of it is useful for anyone downgrading, especially using a Teensy.

I was wondering if you could supply a parts file and their locations for an individual manufacturing run, I couldn't find any mentions of parts in the GitHub

 

[zik_zak]

unfortunately, he has disappeared and shop tells out of stock. me2, I am also interested in plugnplay FlashCAT USB supplies, to use it on NANDs

I have the 360°Clip stuff, but it is awfull and does not give proper connection

 

[lawlietl4]

unfortunately, he has disappeared and shop tells out of stock. me2, I am also interested in plugnplay FlashCAT USB supplies, to use it on NANDs

I have the 360°Clip stuff, but it is awfull and does not give proper connection

I would recommend looking on a site called tindie: adapter-flashcatusb-xport-360-clip-tsop-48-nand/
I was able to find a 360 clip to flashcatusb xport adapter and for the 360 clip not staying on I have seen people use books, binder clips, glasses of water and even rubber bands to keep it in place and making contact