Hacking Mario Kart 8 Mods

[ALPHAMARIOX]

Mabey with the changes and the next exploit, we will figure out DLC to more easily add our own stuff.

I was thinking that as well. Implementing it on the other hand, might take some time, as expected.

 

[gudenau]

I was thinking that as well. Implementing it on the other hand, might take some time, as expected.

I would love to make that go faster, but I can not at this point in time.

 

[Chadderz]

For those interested I've started documenting the game's file formats at our new MK8 Wiki: http://mk8.tockdom.com/wiki. It's still a work in progress!

As far as I know, patches to the game will be a bit like Riivolution, simply a patch to the game's file system. They'll still have all the same protections of a Wii U title, so it'd be equally impossible to fake one sadly.

 

[WulfyStylez]

For those interested I've started documenting the game's file formats at our new MK8 Wiki: http://mk8.tockdom.com/wiki. It's still a work in progress!

As far as I know, patches to the game will be a bit like Riivolution, simply a patch to the game's file system. They'll still have all the same protections of a Wii U title, so it'd be equally impossible to fake one sadly.

Wanna document that kernel 'sploit too? ;DDDDDD

Naw but this looks excellent. Pre-emptive thanks for this.

 

[Chadderz]

Wanna document that kernel 'sploit too? ;DDDDDD

Naw but this looks excellent. Pre-emptive thanks for this.

Yeah, should I also included a 'suggested fix' for Nintendo

No trouble! Hopefully it'll be of some use to someone. When the patch does come out we'll obviously do our best to see what it changes, but we'll probably have to crack 5.1.1 first, so it could be some time.

 

[Bug_Checker_]

For those interested I've started documenting the game's file formats at our new MK8 Wiki: http://mk8.tockdom.com/wiki. It's still a work in progress!

As far as I know, patches to the game will be a bit like Riivolution, simply a patch to the game's file system. They'll still have all the same protections of a Wii U title, so it'd be equally impossible to fake one sadly.

When are you going to officially release the ram addresses from MK8 Character ID notes?

Yeah, should I also included a 'suggested fix' for Nintendo

No trouble! Hopefully it'll be of some use to someone. When the patch does come out we'll obviously do our best to see what it changes, but we'll probably have to crack 5.1.1 first, so it could be some time.

IF Nintendo were smart they would NEVER close the exploit hole you have because it would then be worthless to you to keep a secret and the other concern about hackers screwing up a game has already been addressed.

 

[Chadderz]

When are you going to officially release the ram addresses from MK8 Character ID notes?

Sorry, what do you mean by this? It's very unlikely anything in the RAM will end up on the wiki as it's not generally needed for creating custom stuff, only the files are.

 

[Bug_Checker_]

Sorry, what do you mean by this? It's very unlikely anything in the RAM will end up on the wiki as it's not generally needed for creating custom stuff, only the files are.

I thought you were going to document everything from the beginning including how you originally modded some stuff.

 

[Chadderz]

I thought you were going to document everything from the beginning including how you originally modded some stuff.

Oh I see what you mean now. No probably not to be honest, we just found that address in order to look for beta stuff, but now that we've got the file system we can just see it directly. The trouble with RAM addresses in general is that they don't tend to be consistent between regions/versions/courses whereas file structure is, so unless a mod HAD to use the RAM, we wouldn't want to document it.

 

[WulfyStylez]

Just curious though Chadderz, were you guys intending on going public with your custom content and the stuff to run it once you get to the point that there's actually content to release? Or is it going to stay a thing for privileged, trustable people?
I know the implications of releasing a package to allow anyone to do these mods can reach way beyond just MK8 is why I ask, and I'm sure you guys don't wanna be the people who accidentally enabled some less-than-spectacular homebrewy features on the Wii U...

 

[Chadderz]

Just curious though Chadderz, were you guys intending on going public with your custom content and the stuff to run it once you get to the point that there's actually content to release? Or is it going to stay a thing for privileged, trustable people?
I know the implications of releasing a package to allow anyone to do these mods can reach way beyond just MK8 is why I ask, and I'm sure you guys don't wanna be the people who accidentally enabled some less-than-spectacular homebrewy features on the Wii U...

We're not sure. To clarify; no one else has it currently; we've been true to our word in that we haven't even given the exploit to our best friends. We're not the sort to make a private distribution, so I think if we were to release it would be for everyone. Most likely if it gets to the point where we have a reasonably sized game mod and no other team has made any progress, we'd look at heavily obfuscating our exploit and releasing it as a standalone application with the exploit baked in, to prevent it being used for nefarious purposes. I think that point is still many months away though.

 

[WulfyStylez]

We're not sure. To clarify; no one else has it currently; we've been true to our word in that we haven't even given the exploit to our best friends. We're not the sort to make a private distribution, so I think if we were to release it would be for everyone. Most likely if it gets to the point where we have a reasonably sized game mod and no other team has made any progress, we'd look at heavily obfuscating our exploit and releasing it as a standalone application with the exploit baked in, to prevent it being used for nefarious purposes. I think that point is still many months away though.

That sounds excellent actually. Sounds like I trust you guys if it gets to that point.

 

[gudenau]

Good luck chadderz!

 

[Ryanrocks462]

We're not sure. To clarify; no one else has it currently; we've been true to our word in that we haven't even given the exploit to our best friends. We're not the sort to make a private distribution, so I think if we were to release it would be for everyone. Most likely if it gets to the point where we have a reasonably sized game mod and no other team has made any progress, we'd look at heavily obfuscating our exploit and releasing it as a standalone application with the exploit baked in, to prevent it being used for nefarious purposes. I think that point is still many months away though.

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[Oxybelis]

For those interested I've started documenting the game's file formats at our new MK8 Wiki: http://mk8.tockdom.com/wiki. It's still a work in progress!

From wiki: "The BYAML file format is a generic data container format used in Mario Kart 8. It is similar in some ways to XML, but it is a binary data format. "

It looks strange to name format BYAML if it's made from XML and not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML

 

[Chadderz]

From wiki: "The BYAML file format is a generic data container format used in Mario Kart 8. It is similar in some ways to XML, but it is a binary data format. "

It looks strange to name format BYAML if it's made from XML and not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML

Well, I didn't necessarily say it was made from XML, just that it's similar. It is, of course, perfectly possible Nintendo use a YAML <-> BYAML converter, though the presence of the path nodes makes me doubt that, I suspect it's a custom format, perhaps a variant of YAML. I'm only using XML as an example because more people are more likely to be familiar with it, and I only wrote a BYAML <-> XML converter due to me being familiar with the format, and XML libraries being more ubiquitous.

 

[uyjulian]

http://kotaku.com/the-men-who-hacked-mario-kart-8-1622076182

 

[ALPHAMARIOX]

I guess late 2014 or early 2015 are times to look forward to in MK8 CTs.

 

[Ray Lewis]

http://kotaku.com/the-men-who-hacked-mario-kart-8-1622076182

Thanks for sharing this article. I think Game Genie, Game Shark, or Pro Action Replay would be a better way to conceive of the work that these MK8 mods demonstrate. I find myself disappointed. I buy all of my games and follow the markets. I am disappointed and realize that the old, "Shut up and you do it" reply will be given for my post. I felt excited for the next gen systems to be opened up like the Wii, 360, and later the PS3 were. Even the PSP was fun.

It is very interesting to see this but I think when the ode devices hit the interest will die down. Maybe a cheat engine system could come of this? The article made it clear that this Wii U "scene" will never fully take off and will be handicapped if one ever does begin. Triple Core Linux is stuck, and I feel like the other "projects" may never be shared OR they will be shared like crumbs brushed off a table.

 

[NWPlayer123]

Thanks for sharing this article. I think Game Genie, Game Shark, or Pro Action Replay would be a better way to conceive of the work that these MK8 mods demonstrate. I find myself disappointed. I buy all of my games and follow the markets. I am disappointed and realize that the old, "Shut up and you do it" reply will be given for my post. I felt excited for the next gen systems to be opened up like the Wii, 360, and later the PS3 were. Even the PSP was fun.

It is very interesting to see this but I think when the ode devices hit the interest will die down. Maybe a cheat engine system could come of this? The article made it clear that this Wii U "scene" will never fully take off and will be handicapped if one ever does begin. Triple Core Linux is stuck, and I feel like the other "projects" may never be shared OR they will be shared like crumbs brushed off a table.

The plan is that once a kernel/loader/IOSU exploit is found, it'll be obsfucated so nobody'll be able to use it for anything other then we allow, preventing piracy and cheating.