Hardware 2D Only Model Of 3DS?

[DiscostewSM]

So you don't want to use the 3D feature, and feel cheated out for paying for the feature? Well, you're either paid for the 3D effect, or paid for greater battery life, so no, no one is getting cheated out here.

Greater battery life? Are we talking about the same 3DS? The 3DS has awful battery life on its own, even with 3D turned off (even in DS mode the 3DS's battery doesn't last as long as the DS Lite's)

Don't know what 3DS you're talking about, as there is only one, and removing the 3D effect altogether instead of turning it off manually won't magically add extra hours of playtime. Besides, unlike the DSLite, which is only running DS functionality, the 3DS in DS mode still has 3DS functionality running. Off the topic of the removal of the 3D effect and onto battery life, DS games on DS units will only use WiFi when they actually need them. DS games on 3DS units must have WiFi active and running before DS games are loaded so they can use them. So, if you don;t need the WiFi on, turn it off, and enjoy even more battery life.

 

[KingVamp]

Nintendo has already said and proven that 3D isn't a necessity for any of their 3DS games and there is already a large segment that plays without turning 3D ,

Let me restate that, they said 3D can improve game play of most games, but they don't require devs to use it.

 

[10_0ARMY]

This must the most stupid post ever. Why don't they propose a 2d version of the 3ds????? Are you retarded? Afraid for your health: close one eye.

I use 3d on all the time, never had any discomfort. If I did I would adapt it or switch it off.

If nintendo was making a plane you would propose a model that doesn't fly for people who are afraid of heights?

OP's proposal is sooooooo moronic it gives me headache and eye strains.

Thanks for your ignorance and useless post. Unintelligence knows no bounds.

I partly agree with Thug on this one (holy crap March 2011 post man), as Nintendo could make a cheaper Nintendo 3DS Lite or something that excludes the 3D feature, while still playing 3DS titles. This way those who suffer from headaches or eye strain can save their money and get a cheaper model, and still enjoy the 3DS games.

Although now I think it's too late for them to do that, because they've already put so many eggs in the 3D basket that having a 2D version would be impossible. It's been '3D this!' and '3D that!' so much that it will be very hard for Nintendo to say 'Yeah..... we're gonna tone down on the focus of 3D.' -- Plus they also called it 3DS, so they've sealed their fate.

Personally, I would prefer a 2D only version. Even without the 3D effect on, the screen still gives me headaches. Apparently I'm not the only one.

It dropped to $170. That's almost a 100 dollar lower in price. A 3DS without 3D is STUPID. The point of the 3DS is to have the 3d capability. Buy a PSP if you want 3d games without a 3d button and stop wanting a console whose main feature is 3d to NOT have it at all.

 

[Edgarska]

2D 3DS.
that made me laugh.

 

[lincruste]

I can't see 3D so why I must pay more for 3D effect?

You must not.

 

[ManFranceGermany]

I never heard anyone really getting headache from the 3Ds... I mean seriously, this people will have in the future big problems, as everything in the medias will be 3D in the next 20 years.
The first films had the same complains in the end of 19th century, I remember that i read that people run out of the cinema when a train came towards them on the screen...scary thing.... same for Black and White TVs, Tvs with Color in the 60es and 70es , later Videogames and Computer screens, they all had terrible fears about there eyes that they brake and had terrible headache...after some month no one had headache anymore and likes it and couldn't imagine to live without it.

To complain is in the human nature, to accept too.

 

[spinal_cord]

(edit) Guild, they are releasing 2 versions of the Vita... a wifi only model, and a 3G cell line model. This would be analogous to a 3D-less 3DS and the 'premium' regular 3DS.

What?! No.

There is no reason at all to replace the 3d screen with a 2d screen, redesign a big chunk of the system, costing the company silly amounts of money just because some people think it might be a little cheaper for the end customer. Like many people have said (rightly), just use the slider switch and turn off the 3D if you don't like/need it. I am one of the many people who got the 3DS at launch, I don't use the 3D much any more, if at all. You know what I do? that's right, I switch it to 2D mode using the handy provided switch that's what it is for You don't see me ranting about how "I don't use the 3D so Nintendo have to make a 2D only model, costing them loads of money, just so I can save $10!!!" They have provided you with a 2D option, if you don't like it, then just don't play on the machine, it really is that simple.

 

[Veho]

same for Black and White TVs, Tvs with Color in the 60es and 70es , later Videogames and Computer screens, they all had terrible fears about there eyes that they brake and had terrible headache...after some month no one had headache anymore and likes it and couldn't imagine to live without it.

To be fair, those early screens really were terrible. Each new technology was horrible migrane-inducing eye strain when it first came out, and only got better as the technology advanced. But early screens (cinema, early TV, early color TV, CRT monitors) were the equivalent of looking at a strobe light.

I never heard anyone really getting headache from the 3Ds... I mean seriously, this people will have in the future big problems, as everything in the medias will be 3D in the next 20 years.

But it will be better 3D

 

[ManFranceGermany]

But it will be better 3D

3D are two slightly different pictures and each eye should just see one of them. I don't think that you can make 3D without glasses much better, you can just try that more people can see the effect, for a TV it would be great, as far as I understand it will be a prism, but the "headache" will be the same.

I mean 3D is what your eyes and brain are doing all the time. I don't know many people holding one hand infront of one eye and saying "uff..finally, no headache".
Sure, its on a little screen, and that might make problems...but its also about to train your eyes.

If you're right and we will really get "better 3D" trough holograms one day (at least thats what I would see as a real progress)... I bet with you that the first complains will be again terrible headache.

 

[BoxmanWTF]

But it will be better 3D

If you're right and we will really get "better 3D" trough holograms one day (at least thats what I would see as a real progress)... I bet with you that the first complains will be again terrible headache.

If we don't get better 3D effects in technology then something's wrong.
Everything gets better in time, why not 3D? the way the effect is presented to us, and the viewing angles should increase.

 

[Veho]

3D are two slightly different pictures and each eye should just see one of them. I don't think that you can make 3D without glasses much better, you can just try that more people can see the effect, for a TV it would be great, as far as I understand it will be a prism, but the "headache" will be the same.

I mean 3D is what your eyes and brain are doing all the time. I don't know many people holding one hand infront of one eye and saying "uff..finally, no headache".
Sure, its on a little screen, and that might make problems...but its also about to train your eyes.

If you're right and we will really get "better 3D" trough holograms one day (at least thats what I would see as a real progress)... I bet with you that the first complains will be again terrible headache.

Rest assured the first holograms will be horrible too

There was a discussion about 3D tech in another thread a while ago, I'll try to find it. It had a few good points. The general gist was, 3D screens don't work the was an actual 3D object does in nature, and what your eyes and brain are doing to process it is different. Natural 3D is more than just two images at a different angle. There are several depth perception cues. Eyes judge the distance by focusing on an object, as well as converging on it. In real life, the point where the eyes converge is also the point they focus on. With 3D screens, the point where they converge (the object shown) depends on the scene and what the screen is telling you (it can be in front of or behind the screen), but the focus is on the surface of the screen. The discrepancy can be hard on the eyes until you get used to it.

An example of this discrepancy from real life is looking at a net or a mesh or vertical bars, any kind of repeating pattern where the eyes focus on the actual distance but they can hapen to converge on two different wires/bars/cells of the pattern. It's pretty confusing and strenuous on the eyes.

Another example are those cross-eye stereogram and autostereogram images, also pretty hard on the eyes.

It's not what the eyes and brain do all the time, it's different.

 

[ManFranceGermany]

But it will be better 3D

If you're right and we will really get "better 3D" trough holograms one day (at least thats what I would see as a real progress)... I bet with you that the first complains will be again terrible headache.

If we don't get better 3D effects in technology then something's wrong.
Everything gets better in time, why not 3D? the way the effect is presented to us, and the viewing angles should increase.

???
seriously, its like saying if we don't get something else than feeds as a human, something is wrong in nature.
3D is giving by nature, its how we see our world, each eye sees the same thing, with a slightly different angle..what else can you do, as with glasses or a parallax screen?
Im not sure if you know how the 3Ds work, but its just 2 pictures, separated by a filter so that the brain things its one 3D picture.

The next logical step would be maybe to put the images directly into brain or maybe even holograms, but ...this will take a very very long time.

so now and for sure in the next 20 or 30 years you will have just two possibilities parallax screens or glasses.

 

[lincruste]

The next logical step would be maybe to put the images directly into brain or maybe even holograms, but ...this will take a very very long time.

so now and for sure in the next 20 or 30 years you will have just two possibilities parallax screens or glasses.

Or real holographic displays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWigiSv16BA

 

[Midna]

seriously, its like saying if we don't get something else than feeds as a human, something is wrong in nature.

The hell? That doesn't even make sense. Feeds as a human? Who's working on any technology capable of eating?
The guy before you was right. If the technology in an extremely profitable field does not improve over time, something is wrong.

Edit:
I see what you're saying now. That just makes the analogy worse. Nature is not the audio visual industry. Nor are humans neccecarily an improved model. Evolution is also, you know, slightly slower than the progression of consumer electronics.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

As far as the eye strain issue goes, I had minor headaches and eye fatigue for a few days when I would play for more than an hour, and after that about a week when gaming on long stretches. (4-5 hours) I have had my 3DS for 2 weeks now, and I can game on it with full-blast 3D until the red light starts blinking and not have any eye fatigue or headaches.

It just takes a bit of adjustment. Your eyes and especially your brain are not used to that method of visual input, but after you play it a while it's like second nature to them.

 

[8BitWalugi]

I played a total of 21 hours of Mario 3D Land, all in 3D, over a course of 3 days.

My eyes are fine.

 

[Hells Malice]

I bought mine for $250 and never turn on the 3D.
No regrets.

 

[_Chaz_]

This topic has been going on since March... How many times do people have to say "turn down the slider" before the problem is resolved?

 

[Snailface]

The problem I have is not that the 3D bothers me, its that I stop noticing it after a while.

The 'wow' factor wears off after a few minutes each time I play a game.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

This topic has been going on since March... How many times do people have to say "turn down the slider" before the problem is resolved?

tbh It's not much of an issue of "turn down the slider" It's more of an issue of finding the slider position that's right for you. It all depends on what your gaming habits are, how strong your eyes are, how far apart they are, etc...

With me, having the slider halfway hurts my eyes more than full blast, because on full, it seems like my eyes can "relax" a bit more. It's all up to personal comfort.