Hacking What is Haxchi or CBHC? FAQs and info

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Thanks! Just to be 130% clear about it: With reinstall you ONLY mean Haxchi, not all the other titles.

Because that would take a whole night. I never bothered with digital download, but now that I hacked it I went all digital.
 

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Tried just now CBHC installer and it works even with an HDD plugged (CBHC Installer and Haxchi Installer are actually the same installer)

I can't tell if that's meant as a response to me as the prior poster, or if it's an anecdotal posting. While I understand that the installer will probably work fine without disconnecting the USB drive, I prefer to advise others to remove the drive until @FIX94 determines that it is no longer a potential issue. This recent comment doesn't go quite that far:

all removing the hdd does/did is make it more likely that it will properly exit the installer when it exits but since i've made quite a few stability updates to the iosu exploit and to the installer exit really the chance of running into it failing is quite low even with a hdd still plugged in.

Since I can't tell what caches might not have been flushed before the installer hangs, removing the drive seems like the better option. If FIX wants to state that the worst that can possibly happen is that the person has to force shutdown, and that nothing bad can happen because of it, then I can tell people to leave it attached.

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Thanks! Just to be 130% clear about it: With reinstall you ONLY mean Haxchi, not all the other titles.
Yes. Only Haxchi.
 

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after installing haxchi, will i still need an SD card to run it? i'm thinking of running all my vwii games from sd card, so i don't want to be swapping it out.
 

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after installing haxchi, will i still need an SD card to run it? i'm thinking of running all my vwii games from sd card, so i don't want to be swapping it out.
Haxchi itself doesn't need the SD card, but if you tell it to run something from an SD card that isn't there, it'll be mildly upset.

By default, Haxchi will try to run Homebrew Launcher (from the SD). It will give you an error and hang if it can't find it.

You can put the wiiu directory on the SD with your Wii games. It's rather small unless you've got loadiine and a bunch of games under it.
 

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By default, Haxchi will try to run Homebrew Launcher (from the SD). It will give you an error and hang if it can't find it.

You can put the wiiu directory on the SD with your Wii games. It's rather small unless you've got loadiine and a bunch of games under it.

oh right. i was thinking i would format my card to exfat so i don't have to split large wii games - but i guess fat32 is a simpler compromise, just the initial setup of splitting files. unless i'm mistaken and i can run haxchi off of exfat.
 

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oh right. i was thinking i would format my card to exfat so i don't have to split large wii games - but i guess fat32 is a simpler compromise, just the initial setup of splitting files. unless i'm mistaken and i can run haxchi off of exfat.
WiiU doesn't do ExFAT. On the Wii side, Homebrew Channel loads stuff from FAT32, so the non-channel USB Loader GX would need FAT32. I don't know if the channel version of USB Loader GX is compatible with vwii, but it didn't support ExFAT anyway. (It could do NTFS, but you lost NAND emulation.) Splitting sounds better, as you'll then be running FAT32 like most WiiU people with USB drives are. (at least the ones who are planning on combining everything on one USB drive)
 
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So i have more questions

I got haxchi installed and in the confug file i have sysnand as default, but it keeps launching hbl

Also i cant install hbl as channel because of signature. I thought haxchi was supposed to bypass that
 

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I got haxchi installed and in the confug file i have sysnand as default, but it keeps launching hbl
If you installed haxchi and then changed the config.txt file in sd:/haxchi, you did it backward. You have to run (or rerun) the install after you change sd:/haxchi/config.txt. I explained that here (partial quote) :
Haxchi doesn't load its settings from SD:/haxchi, it loads them from the content directory of the title whose rom it replaced. The installation program copies the files from SD:/haxchi to the correct title's content directory


Also i cant install hbl as channel because of signature. I thought haxchi was supposed to bypass that
Once you have the first issue fixed, this will be fixed also. If you're starting Homebrew Launcher from Haxchi, Haxchi isn't applying its own patches (and you wouldn't necessarily want it to if you were going to run Mocha or some other app that might conflict with the patching.)

(Edit for clarification) With your new config.txt, you'll start Haxchi, let it go back to the WiiU menu (which will have patches loaded), then run it again and press whatever button you have HBL assigned to. Finally, run the HBL Channel installer.

Even with the default config though, you could start Haxchi and press B to get the patches loaded, then run it again and allow HBL to load. Running the channel installer from there would work, because the patches are in effect.

Either way, once the channel is installed, you'll run Haxchi once after bootup to get the patches loaded, then use the HBL Channel as needed.

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It's CBHC what bypasses that.
CBHC isn't needed for signature patching. Haxchi sysmenu does it just fine - if it's run.
 
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thanks nexusmtz, i figured out what i did wrong. i did the system file correctly, but i had the wrong haxchi installer. i had the haxchi installer from the app store - i downloaded the latest from github and now it's all good. thanks again.

edit: there should be a definition sheet for all these terms, i also thought i might need cbhc, but i also knew it's not what i wanted. i didn't know what coldboot meant. i think i got all the procedures figured out.
 
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thanks nexusmtz, i figured out what i did wrong. i did the system file correctly, but i had the wrong haxchi installer. i had the haxchi installer from the app store - i downloaded the latest from github and now it's all good. thanks again.
Glad it's working. Not sure what your issue was with the appstore version. The appstore thinks that it's 2.5u2, which is in sync with github, and the elf files are a binary match. Other than the appstore not creating and populating a sd:/haxchi directory for you, they look the same to me.
 

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Glad it's working. Not sure what your issue was with the appstore version. The appstore thinks that it's 2.5u2, which is in sync with github, and the elf files are a binary match. Other than the appstore not creating and populating a sd:/haxchi directory for you, they look the same to me.


hmm. maybe something else then. well its working,
 

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Ok so I'd like to do a bit of house keeping. I want to move the "Don't Touch Me" into a folder on the last page. To do so can I just uninstall CBHC then place Haxchi in a folder on the last page and install CBHC again?
 

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if you want to move it into a folder, you move it into a folder. its just a visual move and no file move so thats just fine.
 
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if you want to move it into a folder, you move it into a folder. its just a visual move and no file move so thats just fine.
Ok so just to be crystal clear. I can just Create a New Folder and drop it in there (carefully and not open it lol) I don't have to remove CBHC?
 

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Ok so just to be crystal clear. I can just Create a New Folder and drop it in there (carefully and not open it lol) I don't have to remove CBHC?
yes, also opening it will just react like it would when you boot the console; I chose that title more to discourage somebody trying to delete the DS VC.
 
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yes, also opening it will just react like it would when you boot the console; I chose that title more to discourage somebody trying to delete the DS VC.
O ok awesome. I was thinking my son would brick the WiiU if he touched it lol thx again Fix u da man!!!!!
 

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Q: Can I boot Mocha CFW with Haxchi?
A: Yes, but use it only if you need redNAND.
Why? Is there a reason you shouldn't use Mocha on sysNAND?
Maybe I can rewrite the question and answer to make it less confusing.


If you want a Custom Firmware on sysNAND, you don't need Mocha because CBHC or Haxchi can do it, and way faster !

You can do this : CBHC or Haxchi -> Patched SysNAND
instead of this : CBHC or Haxchi -> Mocha -> Patched SysNAND

So, yes, you can use Mocha from CBHC or Haxchi if you only want sysNAND; but you'll get unnecessary load time as mocha is longer to patch the system than CBHC or Haxchi.
If you want redNAND, then Mocha is the way to go. but if you want sysNAND you can use both CBHC/haxchi or Mocha, but why wait more for the same* result?


* Almost the same !
There is a reason you'd want Mocha on sysNAND : WUP server.
CBHC doesn't add WUP Server/client feature. that's one of the reason why it's faster to patch sysNAND. But you don't need or use WUP Server every day. run Mocha only when you need it.


Edit:
The answer was 1 question below:
Q: Why should I launch Mocha only for redNAND?
A: If you want only a CFW to launch or install games, it's a LOT faster to only patch sysNAND.
I still added precision to the question, it's now like this:

Q: Can I boot Mocha CFW with Haxchi?
A: Yes, but use it only if you need redNAND. Booting into a Custom firmware SysNAND using Mocha is unnecessarily longer while Haxchi can do it faster, unless you need WUP Server.
 
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