Windows 10

the_randomizer · Jun 2, 2015

Arecaidian Fox said:
Only if your PC is from 1999. Seriously though, relax a bit. If you have a Microsoft account, sign up for the preview builds. Anyone can. Just install it to a seperate partition on your drive or repurpose a spare hard drive to try it.

@the_randomizer I believe there was someone who pointed this out earlier on, but you can actually go the the Microsoft support website and request your Win10 upgrade there.

There was? Do you remember how far back the post was?

Kioku · Jun 2, 2015

weatMod said:
wow what a bunch of fucking useless garbage what the fuck are these assholes thinking?
first off metro, let it fucking go, let it die already nobody likes it
same for your shitty apps and app store

search searches on PC and web at the same time, no just fucking no, if im trying to find a photo of my cat on my PC named cat22, i don't want 50 trillion results from the web mixed in with my PC search results, GTFO with that shit

snap, snap your ass this shit has always been fucking annoying since 7 , snap snaps windows when you are just trying to move them and you have to disable it

these new snap features are even more retarded,
suggest windows to snap ,what? why?
completely fucking useless

snap 4 windows, oh no here we go again snap is fucking useless garbage even with 2 windows having to scroll around vertically and horizontally is fucking obnoxious and makes it useless with 2 windows, now you want to add 4? holy shit do they actually pay them to think up this garbage?

task view, again totally fucking useless that is what the task bar is for are they fucking serious? how about just fixing god damn task bar which never fucking works right, auto hide NEVER works on ANY version of windows, always either won't appear or wont hide, always breaks and malfunctions and does the exact opposite of what you want,gets stuck up and blocks things like google chrome DL bar or gets stuck hidden when you are trying to switch programs, fucking thing is unpredictable and never worked right

another bloated piece shit that will further cripple already lame performance i'm sure
who in their right mind would want to download and test this garbage based on this preview?

will probably make new forthcoming skylake ultamobiles run even worse than haswell ultramobiles run now with 8.1
no thanks

installing this shit on legacy hardware is suicide
create desktops is the only useful thing mentined in the preview besides return of start menu

how about adding some new useful features for once?
hey i got one, it's called windows cat mode
it would disable the keyboard and touch screen when you make a gesture on the touch screen,like spelling out c a t
then a button combo to re enable them
would be really useful for me my cat is constantly trying to type on my keyboard and rubbing against my laptop lid and closing my browser all the time

maybe it could go into some eye control when activated

So.. What exactly set this off?

weatMod · Jun 2, 2015

Arecaidian Fox said:
Only if your PC is from 1999. Seriously though, relax a bit. If you have a Microsoft account, sign up for the preview builds. Anyone can. Just install it to a seperate partition on your drive or repurpose a spare hard drive to try it.

@the_randomizer I believe there was someone who pointed this out earlier on, but you can actually go the the Microsoft support website and request your Win10 upgrade there.

ok sorry i mean if you are using a laptop or ultrabook , or anything besides a desktop, i should have calrified

Deleted User · Jun 2, 2015

weatMod said:
ok i see , it was because you said start menu instead of apps by name
and i do create desktop shortcuts , but that is a another ass backward retarded thing about 8/8.1
when you go to apps by name you cant just right click and get a "create desktop shortcut" option in the menu you have to right click it and then go to open file location first and then right click it from there to create a shortcut

Ah, you're right about that. Normally I have installers automatically make shortcuts so I never noticed before.
To me it's not much of a biggie compared to say, Windows 10 (current build, not final product) Xbox app has to open a separate app to customize avatars (The Windows 8 version just had avatars in the Xbox app), and then if you want to buy avatar clothing it opens up the xbox.com avatar store in a web browser. So it's an app that opens an app that opens a browser :/.
Or, with the lack of charms bar in the current build if I want to share an article from the news app on Windows 10 I have to look up the article again on MSN news and copy/paste the url into an email instead of just using the share charm

I am hoping they fix those 2 issues but I'll be getting 10 anyway since Microsoft appears to be making a clear stance on abandoning 8 and will probably force Windows 10 for anything new that comes to Xbox games.
I guess at least it seems like many people are gonna get the free upgrade or finally get off XP so game devs (both on console and PC) can stop designing their games with DX9 compatibility in mind.

And for examples sake I've done a screenshot of what it looks like when you put non metro apps on the main start screen (in the blue rectangle). You can even unpin all the metro apps and just pin up non metro apps

weatMod · Jun 2, 2015

Mchief298 said:
So.. What exactly set this off?

then adding stupid useless features and never EVER fixing stability and bugs EVER
i only use 8 8.1 for mobile ultrabook and it sucks for that
and i see no reason you would want it on a desktop it's only really a benefit if you have a touch screen

always bugs, taskbar autohide never works right,neither does wireless display
also mandatory reboots are pain in the ass after a while sometimes you get restart notifications you can't even opt out of "your PC will restart in x amount of time" WTF
they just add stupid shit all the time nobody gives a shit about instead of just fixing the bugs first nobody uses snap
nobody will use most of that crap , task menu, who cares it's redundant thats what the (broken) taskbar is for
just fix that instead of making new useless redundant crap "features" nobody cars about
it's like have no good ideas so they just toss out useless crap ideas to make it look like they did something

Deleted User · Jun 2, 2015

weatMod said:
then adding stupid useless features and never EVER fixing stability and bugs EVER
i only use 8 8.1 for mobile ultrabook and it sucks for that
and i see no reason you would want it on a desktop it's only really a benefit if you have a touch screen

always bugs, taskbar autohide never works right,neither does wireless display
also mandatory reboots are pain in the ass after a while sometimes you get restart notifications you can't even opt out of "your PC will restart in x amount of time" WTF
they just add stupid shit all the time nobody gives a shit about instead of just fixing the bugs first nobody uses snap
nobody will use most of that crap , task menu, who cares it's redundant thats what the (broken) taskbar is for
just fix that instead of making new useless redundant crap "features" nobody cars about
it's like have no good ideas so they just toss out useless crap ideas to make it look like they did something

Dunno about wireless display but taskbar autohide can be disabled.
You can also set your PC to only check for updates when you want it to.

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the_randomizer said:
There was? Do you remember how far back the post was?

Snugglevixen said:
I did mine with the icon in the notification area on the taskbar. Apparently you need to run a windows update for it to unlock.
Alternatively try this link http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-upgrade

weatMod · Jun 2, 2015

Snugglevixen said:
Dunno about wireless display but taskbar autohide can be disabled.
You can also set your PC to only check for updates when you want it to.

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yeah i don't want to disable it i like the auto hide feature i just don't like that it doesn't work half the time
also you used to be able to resize the taskbar so that it was basically invisible but now you can't so that pretty much makes auto hide essential
especially if you use google chrome and use the download bar at the bottom of the screen and want to have chrome maximized
or use other programs maximized and want to switch between programs or just use buttons on the bottom like in VLC for example
if the taskbar gets stuck and doesn't auto hide which it does,often , then you cant access the controls at the bottom when VLC is maximized
i am always on my ultrabook 13" and always maximize windows , so the taskbar will block essential things like download bar in chrome when auto hide malfunctions and it gets stuck up, also sometimes i am using chrome or another app maximized and want to use the taskbar to switch between windows but it gets stuck down and wont pop up when i put the cursor to the bottom , so i have to restore down or minimize the window to get to it or another program
also sometimes it pops up but it's behind the maximized window instead of in front of it, it really makes using the OS a pain in the ass
and this problem has persisted in pretty much ever single version of windows, they never fix shit
and since it is one of the most basic features you think that they would have worked that shit out by now instead of working on adding useless crap
like this task menu crap and predictive snap garbage nobody is ever going to use

Deleted User · Jun 2, 2015

Snugglevixen said:
I did mine with the icon in the notification area on the taskbar. Apparently you need to run a windows update for it to unlock.
Alternatively try this link http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-upgrade

Oh, yeah, I haven't updated at all since I installed Windows 8 from disc the other day. I should probably do that.

the_randomizer · Jun 2, 2015

And despite the updates (even the necessary KB one it requires), and being a genuine copy of Windows 7 64-bit Pro, the prompt is not popping up. Just fan-freaking-tastic.

Convoluted processes as usual, keep it classy, Microsoft.

Nathan Drake · Jun 2, 2015

the_randomizer said:
And despite the updates (even the necessary KB one it requires), and being a genuine copy of Windows 7 64-bit Pro, the prompt is not popping up. Just fan-freaking-tastic.

Convoluted processes as usual, keep it classy, Microsoft.

It wouldn't be convoluted had you just stayed up to date to begin with ;O;

Have you tried the methods of forcing the icon to appear? As a side note, we still aren't much closer to the release of Windows 10 than we were hours ago. The internet will not run out of digital copies. There is no reason to be even remotely upset.

the_randomizer · Jun 2, 2015

Nathan Drake said:
It wouldn't be convoluted had you just stayed up to date to begin with ;O;

Have you tried the methods of forcing the icon to appear? As a side note, we still aren't much closer to the release of Windows 10 than we were hours ago. The internet will not run out of digital copies. There is no reason to be even remotely upset.

I'm not upset, I'm just confused. I only didn't have it on because I wanted to avoid that infinite reboot loop patch that was supposed to "improve" security. Which I did, I avoided it and it ain't popping up, how do you force it? Hell, I don't even see the reason to reserve it XD

Nathan Drake · Jun 2, 2015

the_randomizer said:
I'm not upset, I'm just confused. I only didn't have it on because I wanted to avoid that infinite reboot loop patch that was supposed to "improve" security. Which I did, I avoided it and it ain't popping up, how do you force it? Hell, I don't even see the reason to reserve it XD

Reserving it is just nice because from what I gather, it will automatically download, then you just install at your leisure. It saves a step of manually doing the download, which frankly, I personally get really lazy about lol

As for forcing the pop up, you have to double click a file somewhere. I'd Google it. Since it automatically popped up for me, I just went the designated route and am not all that well versed on the forceful approach.

Deboog · Jun 2, 2015

Foxi4 said:
The whiners won, Start is back. Yay? I haven't used the Start menu for years, stopped long before the Metro interface replaced it. Essentially it was just a quick way for me to enter the Command Line, but in Metro all I have to do is press the Windows key and type in the name of whatever app I want to start, so yeah - no loss in productivity, and I'd argue it was actually beneficial. Of course people would sooner hang themselves than get used to a new interface.

Stay on 8.1. I'm sure Microsoft will support it for another decade, and by then hopefully you'll have something closer to Metro on a newer OS.

Deleted User · Jun 2, 2015

Deboog said:
Stay on 8.1. I'm sure Microsoft will support it for another decade, and by then hopefully you'll have something closer to Metro on a newer OS.

Unfortunately DX12 will only be on Windows 10 and even though Windows 8 has an Xbox app I imagine they plan to do another Halo 2 Vista with the Xbox games judging by how they advertise the Windows 10 version of the app as a new app and that DX 12 will also be on Xbox One
I imagine DX12 will also get quite a lot of use by non Xbox games at some point aswell, it's time devs stopped making their games DX9 compatible and with Windows 8 and 7 users alike upgrading for free and people still on xp finally upgrading in addition to DX12's performance promises, DX12 is the obvious choice.

So from a gaming point of view I'm obliged to downgrade to W10.

Arecaidian Fox · Jun 2, 2015

Snugglevixen said:
So from a gaming point of view I'm obliged to downgrade to W10.

Downgrade? Save for Cortana needing some tightening up, my preview build has been a much better experience than my 8.1 machine, or even my 7 install, when I had that. Anyone can sign up for the preview builds, people should give them a try. A copy of Rufus and a spare hard drive or partition and you're set.

porkiewpyne · Jun 2, 2015

Got the popup yesterday. I will probably wait a little bit before jumping on board. I like 7 as it is right now. I'll just give them a little bit of time to iron out any kinks.

Deleted User · Jun 2, 2015

Arecaidian Fox said:
Downgrade? Save for Cortana needing some tightening up, my preview build has been a much better experience than my 8.1 machine, or even my 7 install, when I had that. Anyone can sign up for the preview builds, people should give them a try. A copy of Rufus and a spare hard drive or partition and you're set.

I do like it better than 7 but I'm finding some Windows 8 features are harder to use with 10.

blindseer · Jun 2, 2015

The cancerous get Windows 10 app finally appeared on my Windows 7 machine, but after reading a bit on the Microsoft discussions, it sounds like after the first year if you need to reinstall windows 10 you need to buy a new license. So imma gonna stick with 7 for now, if in the future I can grab a 10 key and installer media instead of just a upgrade then I might consider it, but upgrading a Windows 7 system is just asking for trouble.

Kioku · Jun 2, 2015

weatMod said:
then adding stupid useless features and never EVER fixing stability and bugs EVER
i only use 8 8.1 for mobile ultrabook and it sucks for that
and i see no reason you would want it on a desktop it's only really a benefit if you have a touch screen

always bugs, taskbar autohide never works right,neither does wireless display
also mandatory reboots are pain in the ass after a while sometimes you get restart notifications you can't even opt out of "your PC will restart in x amount of time" WTF
they just add stupid shit all the time nobody gives a shit about instead of just fixing the bugs first nobody uses snap
nobody will use most of that crap , task menu, who cares it's redundant thats what the (broken) taskbar is for
just fix that instead of making new useless redundant crap "features" nobody cars about
it's like have no good ideas so they just toss out useless crap ideas to make it look like they did something

I use snap. There are no mandatory reboots... I haven't experienced any of these problems.... and I've been using 8 since the beta. The wireless display issue was fixed a while ago.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience which seems like it was way early on.. but, again.. Those issues? I haven't experienced recently. Snap is a feature I use daily. Task menu? Task manager? What are you talking about here?

Also, the misconception that 8 belongs on a touch screen bothers me. There's nothing wrong with using a KB/M. I've personally found it much easier to maneuver and access what you're looking for on it. My job has 7 on the computers and honestly? I despise it. It feels sluggish.

Deleted User · Jun 2, 2015

Arecaidian Fox said:
Downgrade? Save for Cortana needing some tightening up, my preview build has been a much better experience than my 8.1 machine, or even my 7 install, when I had that. Anyone can sign up for the preview builds, people should give them a try. A copy of Rufus and a spare hard drive or partition and you're set.

Isn't Cortana only going to be available to some countries at launch?

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