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FAST6191 · Sep 17, 2014

Also on Rare most of what I ever read said it was hardly all peaches and cream during the "good" years.

General history

Stuff from the mouths of the developers of conker's bad fur day

There were a few pieces from the earlier days of Free Radical but I am struggling to find them right now.
Edit. A bit later than the ones I was looking for but http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-free-radical-vs-the-monsters has some more.

WiiCube_2013 · Sep 17, 2014

Foxi4 said:
Rare was given a fair chance at developing games from their core franchises. Perfect Dark Zero, Conker: Live and Reloaded, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts or Viva Piñata are all games Rare developed as a Microsoft subsidiary, unfortunately their sales were underwhelming. The "collapse of Rare" is perpetuated by gamers who simply have their panties in a bunch over the fact that they're now owned by Microsoft. Yes, they make Kinect games now, but that doesn't mean that they won't be developing any full-scale games in the future.

Didn't the original Rare team split up? Yeah, good luck making a game without the original team who had the ideas for the games.

Foxi4 · Sep 18, 2014

WiiCube_2013 said:
Didn't the original Rare team split up? Yeah, good luck making a game without the original team who had the ideas for the games.

People come, people go, but that doesn't mean that there are no creative minds left.

Hells Malice · Sep 18, 2014

Tom Bombadildo said:
I also think all this bitching is absolutely pointless, but Microsoft has screwed up a few things in the past

Like Rare, I don't think I really need to say anymore than that, I mean they pretty much ruined a great studio.

And the problem with GFWL is that it's buggy as all hell and fucks up in nearly every game, not so much that it's a "thing". For example, GTA IV. There were thousands of people unable to play because GFWL would freeze up, randomly delete saves, wouldn't save at all, would glitch out and force-close the game/take you out of the game without saving etc. The same thing would happen in other GFWL, I think Fable 3 had similar problems as well. I know in Dark Souls 1 I had tons of problems getting it to even download my profile so I could actually play the game. I ended up having to transfer my GFWL profile from my laptop to my desktop, which managed to work for a bit until it became "corrupted" and I had to repeat the process three times so far. But bitching about it at this point is just plain dumb, since even games published/co-published my Microsoft are switching to Steamworks and aren't using GFWL. But hey, most gamers are ignorant whiny crybabies

Microsoft didn't really kill Rare tbh. Rare's roll had pretty much stopped and all they were doing was diddling out crappy cash-ins or ports. They actually made some pretty good games under microsoft. At least, they were well received. Grabbed by the Goulies, Conker Live and Reloaded, Kameo, Viva Pinata...some others i'm forgetting.
Honestly i'd say Microsoft got them to do some great games where their last really good game was like...2001 under Nintendo.
The Banjo series was a bit of a cock-up, but it was dead to begin with. honestly. Tooie came out in, what, 2000? Nuts and Bolts was 2008.

Kinda sucks Rare fell when it used to make such amazing games (Banjo Kazooie/tooie and DK64 are still 2 of my all time favorite games), but meh. Happens to all studios eventually. I find it hard to blame Microsoft entirely for that.

EDIT before post: aaand I totally got ninja'd by Foxi since I AFK'd instead of posting.

Gahars · Sep 18, 2014

Tom Bombadildo said:
Like Rare, I don't think I really need to say anymore than that, I mean they pretty much ruined a great studio.

To be fair, all the best people had already left for Free Radical.

...And now Crytek owns them.

yoyo · Sep 20, 2014

Lovely. Now every upgrade will mean a downgrade, like Skype. Wonder if a pop-up ad will show up every two minutes.

Guild McCommunist · Sep 22, 2014

yoyo said:
Lovely. Now every upgrade will mean a downgrade, like Skype. Wonder if a pop-up ad will show up every two minutes.

Holy shit I've been using Skype for like 5 years and I've never really noticed any huge differences. I mean I mostly use it for group text chat but even for the rare video calls or voice calls it's been the same.

What's the big deal with Skype now?

endoverend · Sep 22, 2014

Guild McCommunist said:
Holy shit I've been using Skype for like 5 years and I've never really noticed any huge differences. I mean I mostly use it for group text chat but even for the rare video calls or voice calls it's been the same.

What's the big deal with Skype now?

There isn't a big deal. Honestly the quality of Skype was pretty bad in the first place and it's gotten marginally better/worse depending on how you look at it, but nothing significant.

Sporky McForkinspoon · Sep 22, 2014

endoverend said:
There isn't a big deal. Honestly the quality of Skype was pretty bad in the first place and it's gotten marginally better/worse depending on how you look at it, but nothing significant.

Unless your prefer that your conversations not be delivered directly to the NSA.

ZXDunny · Sep 26, 2014

What's with all the whining about Rare? After what Rare did to Ultimate: PTG, those fuckers deserve all they get.

D.

Foxi4 · Sep 26, 2014

Sporky McForkinspoon said:
Unless your prefer that your conversations not be delivered directly to the NSA.

Some thinks his/her conversations are actually interesting enough to be spied on.

Sporky McForkinspoon · Sep 27, 2014

Foxi4 said:
Some thinks his/her conversations are actually interesting enough to be spied on.

They don't have to be interesting. If you've paid any attention to the Snowden leaks, you know that the NSA spies on anything they can get their hands on, relying on algorithms to search through that information. Whether or not a human ever reads those conversations doesn't matter, Skype users are still being spied on every time they use the program.

Hells Malice · Sep 27, 2014

Sporky McForkinspoon said:
They don't have to be interesting. If you've paid any attention to the Snowden leaks, you know that the NSA spies on anything they can get their hands on, relying on algorithms to search through that information. Whether or not a human ever reads those conversations doesn't matter, Skype users are still being spied on every time they use the program.

Probably best that you get you and your tinfoil hat the hell off the grid if you think that way.
You think they stop at skype? Oh no no. Every single letter you type is sent directly to the NSA.

All that pony porn you jack it to? Yeah the NSA knows all your secrets.

gbbst · Nov 24, 2014

any news about minecraft lately? i want to open a server but i don't know is worth

war2thegrave · Nov 25, 2014

Hells Malice said:
Probably best that you get you and your tinfoil hat the hell off the grid if you think that way.
You think they stop at skype? Oh no no. Every single letter you type is sent directly to the NSA.

All that pony porn you jack it to? Yeah the NSA knows all your secrets.

This.

Your ISP sends that shit directly to the government before skype can even touch it.

Sporky McForkinspoon · Nov 25, 2014

Hells Malice said:
Probably best that you get you and your tinfoil hat the hell off the grid if you think that way.
You think they stop at skype? Oh no no. Every single letter you type is sent directly to the NSA.

All that pony porn you jack it to? Yeah the NSA knows all your secrets.

So your point is that I'm right that the government is illegally wiretapping every US citizen, which therefore means I'm crazy for thinking the government is spying on me?

Hells Malice · Nov 25, 2014

Sporky McForkinspoon said:
So your point is that I'm right that the government is illegally wiretapping every US citizen, which therefore means I'm crazy for thinking the government is spying on me?

If they wanted to, they certainly could. But they don't, of course.

The reality is, no one gives two fucks about your porn habits. No one fucking cares about your cat Mittens you posted some pictures of, and they sure as hell don't care that you like'd your friends dinner on facebook.
People are fucking boring. It'd be the biggest waste of time this world has ever seen to monitor basically anyone on earth that wasn't leaking government or military secrets.

I'm basically just saying if you think you're safe by picking and choosing what services you use on the internet, you're not. There is absolutely no way for you to hide what you're doing, aside from never using the internet. So if you think the government would actually care about your mundane useless life, pull the plug on your internet. That's the only way.

Sporky McForkinspoon · Nov 25, 2014

Hells Malice said:
If they wanted to, they certainly could. But they don't, of course.

The reality is, no one gives two fucks about your porn habits. No one fucking cares about your cat Mittens you posted some pictures of, and they sure as hell don't care that you like'd your friends dinner on facebook.
People are fucking boring. It'd be the biggest waste of time this world has ever seen to monitor basically anyone on earth that wasn't leaking government or military secrets.

I'm basically just saying if you think you're safe by picking and choosing what services you use on the internet, you're not. There is absolutely no way for you to hide what you're doing, aside from never using the internet. So if you think the government would actually care about your mundane useless life, pull the plug on your internet. That's the only way.

As it happens, my issue is not that I believe I am an interesting enough target to need a human being's attention. However, I care greatly about my constitutional rights, particularly those granted under the First and Fourth Amendments. As such, I try to avoid patronizing companies that actively assist the U.S. government in violating those rights. It is unfortunate that I do not have a choice in ISP, but I use a VPN services to make it more difficult to attack my rights under that particular vector. If the government claimed the right to search your home at any time without probable cause or a warrant, or even notifying you that they broke into your home, would you simply trust that no police officer would ever abuse that ability? The United States' government's actions are not a personal outrage, but they are outrageous nevertheless.

Arras · Nov 25, 2014

Guild McCommunist said:
Holy shit I've been using Skype for like 5 years and I've never really noticed any huge differences. I mean I mostly use it for group text chat but even for the rare video calls or voice calls it's been the same.

What's the big deal with Skype now?

I know this is an ancient post, but... try updating Skype now.

Foxi4 · Nov 25, 2014

Hells Malice said:
If they wanted to, they certainly could. But they don't, of course.

The reality is, no one gives two fucks about your porn habits. No one fucking cares about your cat Mittens you posted some pictures of, and they sure as hell don't care that you like'd your friends dinner on facebook.
People are fucking boring. It'd be the biggest waste of time this world has ever seen to monitor basically anyone on earth that wasn't leaking government or military secrets.

I'm basically just saying if you think you're safe by picking and choosing what services you use on the internet, you're not. There is absolutely no way for you to hide what you're doing, aside from never using the internet. So if you think the government would actually care about your mundane useless life, pull the plug on your internet. That's the only way.

...and eeeeven when if s/he does that, there's always a myriad of other surveillance methods, so I suggest dropping credit/debit cards to avoid leaving a paper trail, discontinuing any services that require paying a bill for the same reason, never communicating via cellphones and landlines alike, never sending any mail lest someone intercepts it at the post office and reads it, wearing a balaclava 24/7 since the world's covered in CCTV cameras, digging up a nice hole somewhere in the Himalayas and removing yourself from the civilized worlds.

Point being, if the government will have a reasonable suspicion that you're up to no good, they have both the methods and the authority to put surveillance over you and in many cases that's not really a bad thing. I can't help but wonder how come people are always up in arms when they hear about the evil NSA having access to their information, but whenever the law enforcement arrests someone for, say, distributing child pornography, everyone congratulates them on a job well done. Well, how do you think they catch those people, with the help of the Child Porn Fairy? :rofl2:

Guild McCommunist said:
Holy shit I've been using Skype for like 5 years and I've never really noticed any huge differences. I mean I mostly use it for group text chat but even for the rare video calls or voice calls it's been the same.

What's the big deal with Skype now?

To be fair, Skype ads are becoming increasingly annoying and it's slowly becoming tricky to block them. There was a point in time where I was actually beginning to look for alternatives that'd use the same protocol, but a different client entirely.

Sporky McForkinspoon said:
As it happens, my issue is not that I believe I am an interesting enough target to need a human being's attention. However, I care greatly about my constitutional rights, particularly those granted under the First and Fourth Amendments. As such, I try to avoid patronizing companies that actively assist the U.S. government in violating those rights. It is unfortunate that I do not have a choice in ISP, but I use a VPN services to make it more difficult to attack my rights under that particular vector. If the government claimed the right to search your home at any time without probable cause or a warrant, or even notifying you that they broke into your home, would you simply trust that no police officer would ever abuse that ability? The United States' government's actions are not a personal outrage, but they are outrageous nevertheless.

The first amendment concerns freedom of speech, the fourth concerns unlawful searches and seizures. I'd like to underline that to be specific, the first amendment
guarantees that the Congress will not restrict what you can and cannot say - any other institution can and will. For instance, if you start using racial slurs in a restaurant, you will be kicked out of said restaurant and this is not a limitation of your freedom of speech, this is the owner of the restaurant laying down the law in his establishment. In addition, nobody restricts your freedom of expression - to the contrary, you can freely express whatever you want, including things that are incriminating you. As for the fourth, surveillance does not a search make and no seizure of property takes place, so you have no point. You could argue that this violates your right for privacy, but the constitution? Nah.

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