Interesting. I was kind of asking myself why the USA doesn't get rid of the southern border altogether. I guess the ruling class want a certain amount of national integrity, but again where it is at now, what is even the point upholding national integrity?New York City's City Council approved a measure in January to give non-citizens the right to vote in local elections. But after a suit was brought by the GOP lawmakers, the New York Supreme Court ruled that no, non-citizens do not have the right to vote.
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The news is not related to people that entered the country illegally.Good. We don't need people who entered the country illegally deciding what happens in our cities. What needs to happen is they need to be arrested and deported for breaking the law.
Good. We don't need people who entered the country illegally deciding what happens in our cities. What needs to happen is they need to be arrested and deported for breaking the law.
Good. When they become citizens, they can vote to their heart's content.
when your desperate to throw someone you hate under the bus, and do no reading.AOC desperate for votes since she fucked up NYC.
I know exactly who it pertains to. Noncitizens do not have the right to vote in the US. They can vote in their home countries still, just not here. It doesn't matter if they are here legally or not. I can guarantee that US citizens in almost every other country are not allowed to vote in their elections. Why should we be different?wouldn't it suck if you didn't do any investigating or reading?
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/new...-citizens-to-vote-in-new-york-city-elections/
"With a vote of 33 to 14, the City Council passed the "Our City Our Vote" legislation Thursday, granting non-citizens who are either legally authorized to work in the country or have legal permanent residence status the right to vote in municipal elections - not federal or state."
So in other words, people who aren't citizens, but authorized to be here.
when your desperate to throw someone you hate under the bus, and do no reading.
So what exactly is preventing permanent residents from achieving citizen status to be legible for voting?wouldn't it suck if you didn't do any investigating or reading?
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/new...-citizens-to-vote-in-new-york-city-elections/
(that article is directly linked to the one in the OP's post)
"With a vote of 33 to 14, the City Council passed the "Our City Our Vote" legislation Thursday, granting non-citizens who are either legally authorized to work in the country or have legal permanent residence status the right to vote in municipal elections - not federal or state."
So in other words, people who aren't citizens, but authorized to be here.
when your desperate to throw someone you hate under the bus, and do no reading.
Is it? This is only in local elections. Not federal. or state. So in other words voting for the president? not happening. Senators? also not happening. just local elections, so in other words, the city, and only the city.No matter what way you put it, this is just a political move to gain more voters.
Haha, no, no you don'tI know exactly who it pertains to. Noncitizens do not have the right to vote in the US.
you liked this comment. I can infer that your thinking "people here illegally"Good. We don't need people who entered the country illegally deciding what happens in our cities
There's more power to be held locally. The federal government has issues influencing on states and individuals, but at a municipal level it is much easier.Is it? This is only in local elections. Not federal. So in other words voting for the president? not happening. Senators? also not happening. just local elections, so in other words, the city, and only the city.
Worker treatment. Let me explain.In any case, you still haven't answered my question, if this isn't a political move to grab votes, then what exactly is it for?
so if you work here, legally, you shouldn't have any say surrounding said work? Sounds pretty supportive of big businesses to me, who like to take advantage of workers from other countries in general. Larger pay gap, worse conditions etc. It's only adding local voices. not to the overall federal, nor state.Yeah em.. this seems pretty damn obvious. If you're not a citizen you shouldn't be able to vote lol
Not really, since those people who did become citizens, get full access. Federal, State, and Local. In this case, it's just Local, down to the exact city. and that's just looking at it from a voting perspective. your still heavily limited as to what you can do.If anything, this is a middle finger to all those inmigrants that follow the rules and laws, and wait their due time to absorve the culture and language until they are ready for the citizenship.
it's more immediate say, citizenship takes a while, and the United States isn't exactly known for it's speedy processes regarding that.Permanent residents can access citicenship, and the same for legal workers, they can eventually opt for it.
so if you work here, legally, you shouldn't have any say surrounding said work? Sounds pretty supportive of big businesses to me, who like to take advantage of workers from other countries in general. Larger pay gap, worse conditions etc. It's only adding local voices. not to the overall federal, nor state.
No matter what way you put it, this is just a political move to gain more voters.
... you may want to reword that statement. Sounds pretty xenophobic.Why would I want someone who's not even an American to have a say in how we run any form of government?
You do realize that there's plenty of countries that will revoke their citizenship if you have multiple citizenships. There are valid reasons not to do that. Again, we're only talking local elections, using the classroom example, I think that's fair. Your only getting to influence that class. Nothing outside of it. Not the overall school. Not the school district.Why would I want someone who's not even an American to have a say in how we run any form of government? Go get naturalized first, then you earn that privilege.
Actually, this statement is now very interesting, now that I think about it.
Are you implying that POC are more likely to vote democrat? Is that because the Republican voter base is mostly white people?
Because gaining more voters isn't inherently an issue, that's kinda needed for a democracy. Just where we start the standard is the question. Your afraid they would vote in a certain way.
It kinda implies that those people are treated poorly by Republicans, hence why they would vote Democrat. Since nothing is exactly stopping them from voting Republican, unless, well, the Republican party wasn't favorable to them or something.
Sir. I'm Hispanic and latino your attempts to paint people that don't agree with you as racist is just sad.... you may want to reword that statement. Sounds pretty xenophobic.
I would want them to have their voices heard for local elections since they are a honest working person. They deserve to have some say in things. And that some is local elections. It's like attending a class from another country, and they democratically vote on which project to do next. It's pretty rude to exude them, they contribute to their peers. (taxes, economy) but get no say in what they do? feels a bit wrong if you ask me.
You do realize that there's plenty of countries that will revoke their citizenship if you have multiple citizenships. There are valid reasons not to do that. Again, we're only talking local elections, using the classroom example, I think that's fair. Your only getting to influence that class. Nothing outside of it.