Bring the hate on, but I'm ok with that. I'm saying my point then shutting up to keep this thread from derailing, so PM me or start a blog if you wanna discuss this... Ever hear of an atheist running into a crowded area, blowing himself up and screaming "FOR SCIENCE!!!!" Did atheists ever have a crusade? Sorry, but religion is outdated and causes a lot of problems with a lot of really stupid people. Ever hear of the Westboro Baptist Church? Fun group of people they are...
I'm not saying religion in inherently bad, I was giving extreme examples, but you have to admit that believing has caused infinitely more problems than NOT believing. Just saying.
Quick thing to note: If you're going to quote me, do it once.
"Ever hear of an atheist running into a crowded area, blowing himself up and screaming "FOR SCIENCE!!!!" Did atheists ever have a crusade? Sorry, but religion is outdated and causes a lot of problems with a lot of really stupid people"
This is always the copy and paste argument.
It's ideology that leads people to blow themselves up. Not religion. Try to pull up a quranic/biblical verse that allows for violence under any circumstance.
Ok, let me explain to you how posting on a forum works. In order for me to quote and reply to what you said, I have to read it first (that includes the quote in your post too). This is how language works, we don't just shout random words and assume they will fit. So yea, I did read it, thanks for the tip.
Then you'd know that I didnt mean the US is a failed state. I was merely discussing what I thought was a hypothetical rather than a real world example. So no you clearly did not.
The link you gave me in this quote is about black and white, giving only 2 options when there are, in fact, more possibilities. I was not doing that in the least. I gave an example of a government I'm familiar with (you know, where I freaking live). Me mentioning my own government doing exactly what I said was the risk of something like your suggestion in no way, shape, or form says anything about any other country. Just because I don't specifically give examples about them and call them by name does NOT mean that I'm acting like they don't exist, its just hard to give an example about a government you know nothing about, right?
That's the thing though, if it fails because of the way your government works it doesnt make it a failed concept since we're discussing the UK not the USA.
So it is a logical fallacy, it doesnt need to be intentional.
"The sheer audacity of you linking this site to everyone here."
This is a good laugh. I've only done so twice and yet you claim I've been doing so all the time.
get over your own ego please.
And I'm arrogant because I pointed out something? I think you're the thin skinned person here seeing as how you're clearly flustered.
You don't even understand what you're linking.
I don't think you do.
. For that reason I believe we should ban 'organized' religion.
I thought you were against censorship?
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I think people who are prejudice are scum, but if they say, I hate "x" people, they can say it. Although if they got shanked in an alieway for it, it's there own fault.
The reason why I'm defending it is because it's a slippery slope. If the government takes away something from someone, they will have more power and use that power to take more. I will protect whatever rights the people have, even if I disagree.
But that's why protest exists, we're still the ones who put them in power are we not?
So they are here to serve us not the other way around. Simply put, all we have to do is protest and remove them from power.