Hacking [Release] NTR CFW 2.0 for New 3DS

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From one reverse-engineer to another, I really like how you all implemented this! You guys are super clever. (Just wanted to look for fun, no worries)
 
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Too bad all it does is region free, and only for Japan. Hopefully the forthcoming version of rxTools that can be run via CN will include some happy side-effects. I hate to say it, but if an rxTools-grade CFW hits for the N3DS, it's over for Gateway (at least when it comes to the N3DS market). People have already resigned to getting a Sky3DS just to boot GW mode. A good no-swap EmuNAND will be enough to convince most people to leave the GW at home with their old 3DS. DLC and CIAs are nice, but not nice enough to offset the swap penalty (on a handheld at that, especially with there not even being that much DLC in the first place). This won't be a rehash of Rebug vs. iXtreme. Gateway is in trouble. Especially with Europe having so many good games as legit CIAs (install once, place gateway back in old 3DS). I was thinking about selling my Aus N3DS. But with the current GW loading method being so cumbersome, all of those legit CIAs Europe got that the US did not have made it worth holding onto. Especially considering many of them are popular online titles like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 7. I mean, just turn it on and play a perfect signed copy of Smash Bros, and no worries about getting banned. This thing's a keeper alright.

It's kind of funny how we have all of these subjective moralists keeping the cart sellers going (an objective moralist considers copyrights and patents an immoral regulation of free markets, thinks being first to the market is the only right you deserve, and knows that the real pirates are Microsoft and Apple -- plundering Xerox's ship thoroughly, yarrr). You're only hurting sales, btw. So-called "piracy" (formerly known as "fair use" before the media decided to demonize it) increases sales. Case in point, I probably bought more music CDs last year than I have in a long time. Why? Because I was rebuilding my MP3 collection in lossless format (said MP3 collection has been long since surpassed by said lossless collection, I re-ripped it as .ogg recently with no artwork and it just barely managed to stay under 288 GB -- just narrowly avoided needing a 10th 32 GB card for my Sansa Clips and Cowon Z2) Besides, implying that only pirates use backups is a very narrow, closed-minded, media-brainwashed viewpoint. You have a right as a consumer to make a backup to protect your investment. Many parents use backups to keep their kids from scratching the original for example. Many people use the mass storage these devices are capable of for the convenience alone. Who wants to swap discs when they can just have it all on a MyBook or two? If there's any money to be saved by downloading and placing onto your own media, you're being gouged anyway. I have 3 MyBooks full of Blu-Ray ISOs. They're all ripped from discs I own. I just hate getting up and digging through a stack of discs. Thanks to PS3 CFW (and it's defeat of countermeasures like Cinavia), I don't have to deal with a bunch of unnecessary BS.

Saying you're not going to add certain features just because they will be used by freeloaders to get things for free, is like saying you're not going to show people how to use a copying machine because they might use it to copy books (I actually have done that -- Deities & Demigods 1st printing, it had to be done, it's not like my copy has any legit value either, I just don't have to make up stats for things like Cthulhu, because I actually have them right here). It's not like a freeloader was ever a potential customer in the first place. So, why worry, when you can just let them do their thing, knowing that if even one of their friends isn't a freeloader, you've broke even. And any non-freeloader is going to buy sooner or later out of feelings of guilt and obligation (assuming your game doesn't suck). Blizzard prevented many Diablo 3 sales by going client/server. I'd have been showing my friends Torchlight 2 instead, but I thought I could finally get paid to do something I enjoy doing. Should have known they'd sabotage it with fixed per-transaction costs instead of a percentage-based take of the proceeds. Bastards. At least the console version was good. If they want to sell me Starcraft II though, or another WoW expansion, they'd better bring them out for the PS4 though.

You want to know what a market looks like where copy protection succeeds and piracy fails, look no further than the Amiga. Enough said.
 

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Too bad all it does is region free, and only for Japan. Hopefully the forthcoming version of rxTools that can be run via CN will include some happy side-effects. I hate to say it, but if an rxTools-grade CFW hits for the N3DS, it's over for Gateway (at least when it comes to the N3DS market). People have already resigned to getting a Sky3DS just to boot GW mode. A good no-swap EmuNAND will be enough to convince most people to leave the GW at home with their old 3DS. DLC and CIAs are nice, but not nice enough to offset the swap penalty (on a handheld at that, especially with there not even being that much DLC in the first place). This won't be a rehash of Rebug vs. iXtreme. Gateway is in trouble. Especially with Europe having so many good games as legit CIAs (install once, place gateway back in old 3DS). I was thinking about selling my Aus N3DS. But with the current GW loading method being so cumbersome, all of those legit CIAs Europe got that the US did not have made it worth holding onto. Especially considering many of them are popular online titles like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 7. I mean, just turn it on and play a perfect signed copy of Smash Bros, and no worries about getting banned. This thing's a keeper alright.

It's kind of funny how we have all of these subjective moralists keeping the cart sellers going (an objective moralist considers copyrights and patents an immoral regulation of free markets, thinks being first to the market is the only right you deserve, and knows that the real pirates are Microsoft and Apple -- plundering Xerox's ship thoroughly, yarrr). You're only hurting sales, btw. So-called "piracy" (formerly known as "fair use" before the media decided to demonize it) increases sales. Case in point, I probably bought more music CDs last year than I have in a long time. Why? Because I was rebuilding my MP3 collection in lossless format (said MP3 collection has been long since surpassed by said lossless collection, I re-ripped it as .ogg recently with no artwork and it just barely managed to stay under 288 GB -- just narrowly avoided needing a 10th 32 GB card for my Sansa Clips and Cowon Z2) Besides, implying that only pirates use backups is a very narrow, closed-minded, media-brainwashed viewpoint. You have a right as a consumer to make a backup to protect your investment. Many parents use backups to keep their kids from scratching the original for example. Many people use the mass storage these devices are capable of for the convenience alone. Who wants to swap discs when they can just have it all on a MyBook or two? If there's any money to be saved by downloading and placing onto your own media, you're being gouged anyway. I have 3 MyBooks full of Blu-Ray ISOs. They're all ripped from discs I own. I just hate getting up and digging through a stack of discs. Thanks to PS3 CFW (and it's defeat of countermeasures like Cinavia), I don't have to deal with a bunch of unnecessary BS.

Saying you're not going to add certain features just because they will be used by freeloaders to get things for free (a freeloader never was a paying customer, so, why care, enjoy the free advertisement you get and consider that if just one of their friends isn't also a freeloader, you've broken even). Blizzard prevented many Diablo 3 sales by going client/server. I'd have been showing my friends Torchlight 2 instead, but I thought I could finally get paid to do something I enjoy doing. Should have known they'd sabotage it with fixed per-transaction costs instead of a percentage-based take of the proceeds. Bastards. At least the console version was good. If they want to sell me Starcraft II though, or another WoW expansion, they'd better bring them out for the PS4 though.

You want to know what a market looks like where copy protection succeeds and piracy fails, look no further than the Amiga. Enough said.


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If it is, has it been patched?
If it is, has it been patched?

I just downloaded it again in emuNand and went back to sysNand. It was there and all pevious exploits still work on it. Not sure if I'm only able to download it because I had bought in the past and if another version exists that is patched but I'd doubt it.
 

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Sorry if that was a bit much, but I'm seeing way too many promising projects like this fall short of their potential just because doing this or that could potentially be used "the wrong way." Banning knives because so many people are killed with them might sound like a good thing -- until that next package from Amazon arrives and you spend half the day just getting it open.

No CIA means no SaveDataFiler. No SaveDataFiler in CFW means still no converting any save that uses the 6.x key. I beat Zelda: ALBW on my Aus N3DS because the N3DS finally made the 3D fun to use, not a hassle trying to position the device just right. I own both the US cart, and the gold system that came with it as an eShop download. I think I should be well within my rights to convert my EUR save to my purchased eShop CIA, now that I could run said CIA on the N3DS. I mean, I've only paid for the game twice. But no one wants to make a CFW for 9.x that has CIA patches, because of how some people would use it. So, I'm stuck using the European ROM on my Sky3DS.
 

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Sorry if that was a bit much, but I'm seeing way too many promising projects like this fall short of their potential just because doing this or that could potentially be used "the wrong way." Banning knives because so many people are killed with them might sound like a good thing -- until that next package from Amazon arrives and you spend half the day just getting it open.

No CIA means no SaveDataFiler. No SaveDataFiler in CFW means still no converting any save that uses the 6.x key. I beat Zelda: ALBW on my Aus N3DS because the N3DS finally made the 3D fun to use, not a hassle trying to position the device just right. I own both the US cart, and the gold system that came with it as an eShop download. I think I should be well within my rights to convert my EUR save to my purchased eShop CIA, now that I could run said CIA on the N3DS. I mean, I've only paid for the game twice. But no one wants to make a CFW for 9.x that has CIA patches, because of how some people would use it. So, I'm stuck using the European ROM on my Sky3DS.

I think the only thing you should be able to do is take a step back and realize that we're not entitled to a damned thing, especially when we're not capable of doing these things ourselves, and these projects are entirely community efforts. You can always suggest features, sure, but the developers have already decided against CIA and backups, illegitimate or otherwise. So, you really shouldn't bring down projects like these because they don't conform to your needs and wants.
 

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I think the only thing you should be able to do is take a step back and realize that we're not entitled to a damned thing, especially when we're not capable of doing these things ourselves, and these projects are entirely community efforts. You can always suggest features, sure, but the developers have already decided against CIA and backups, illegitimate or otherwise. So, you really shouldn't bring down projects like these because they don't conform to your needs and wants.

Assume much? How do you know I'm not capable? Ever seen any of my projects? Speak for yourself, pal. You've got a problem with a little constructive criticism, so be it. You want everyone to just say nice things because everyone's so fragile? Grow a pair, already. If a radar detector doesn't tell me the cop's there until he's already got my speed, it's not "a good detector that's slightly deficient in the range department", it's a lousy radar detector. I refuse to sugar-coat my assessments. This really isn't all that helpful in its current form. Most of us with any common sense didn't buy a Japanese unit to begin with, because we don't speak the language, and knew region-free was not a guarantee, especially with Sky being the only device that worked with it at the time. If you bought a Japanese N3DS and sat around waiting and hoping some niche-filling code like this would eventually surface, that was short-sighted on your part. I made sure mine was in English, because taking such risks just made no sense. This bails out a few fools. That's it. RegionThree was at least all-region, and it didn't claim to be a CFW either. If it has a use in the future, I'll revise my criticism. I'm not going to say something's great when it's not though. Respect is not something a piece of code deserves just for existing.
 

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Same issue with the other region free hack. The game doesn't have the language file or something. I don't remember offhand exactly.
Ah. I thought it was interesting that in the home menu before launching the game, the Majora's Mask icon and title and everything was in Japanese. But in A Link Between Worlds it displays regularly instead of saying "A Link to the Past 2"
 

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Assume much? How do you know I'm not capable? Ever seen any of my projects? Speak for yourself, pal. You've got a problem with a little constructive criticism, so be it. You want everyone to just say nice things because everyone's so fragile? Grow a pair, already. If a radar detector doesn't tell me the cop's there until he's already got my speed, it's not "a good detector that's slightly deficient in the range department", it's a lousy radar detector. I refuse to sugar-coat my assessments. This really isn't all that helpful in its current form. Most of us with any common sense didn't buy a Japanese unit to begin with, because we don't speak the language, and knew region-free was not a guarantee, especially with Sky being the only device that worked with it at the time. If you bought a Japanese N3DS and sat around waiting and hoping some niche-filling code like this would eventually surface, that was short-sighted on your part. I made sure mine was in English, because taking such risks just made no sense. This bails out a few fools. That's it. RegionThree was at least all-region, and it didn't claim to be a CFW either. If it has a use in the future, I'll revise my criticism. I'm not going to say something's great when it's not though. Respect is not something a piece of code deserves just for existing.

Honestly, my statement about not being capable of a developing such a project was very broad and general, so I apologize if I struck a nerve. That said, no, I don't believe there's a problem with constructive criticism, but I must've missed it in your entitled rant about the morals of piracy. As for requiring a Japanese N3DS, if you read the first post you'd note that other regions and O3DS support are planned. My point is that it's already decided that the feaures you want aren't going to make it, so why beat a dead horse with this tired argument? Also, take it down a notch, yeah? You've cajones, I get it.

That said, I'm sorry for derailing this thread, so I'll refrain from engaging in any further arguments or debates of the sort. I appreciate the efforts here, and between KARL3DS and NTR, I can't wait. :)
 

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I just downloaded it again in emuNand and went back to sysNand. It was there and all pevious exploits still work on it. Not sure if I'm only able to download it because I had bought in the past and if another version exists that is patched but I'd doubt it.

Nope, it only lets you redownload it.
I went into eShop and it says "this software is not currently offered" where the purchase button would normally be.
 

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Has anyone tried Smash Brothers? I only have a Japanese cartridge so I'm not sure if it's because I'm trying to run it after booting NTR but I just get the "Nintendo 3DS" logo loading screen. I'd like to dump some of the processes so I want to use NTR but it doesn't appear to be working. My only guess is because Smash uses more memory than normal games that it is causing an issue.
 

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Idea for NTR 2.1: Patch the "nim" service to not care about system updates, which would allow the eShop to work.
 
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