Hacking Has anyone proven that Sky3DS is an exact replica cart?

[w0dash]

Why the hell should they fight Gateway but not Sky3D if Sky is as easy to fix as you are saying the whole time?

 

[OuahOuah]

I don't agree about Nintendo not bothering about Sky3DS.
They sued french physical stores about R4, and won.

They tried to block DS linker from beginning 'til 6.x firm. and then after fought about Gateway and Ninjhax.
Ninjhax even doesn't launch ROM but they "bother" to block it.

And not Sky3DS ?

That's strange enough.

And GW is blocked from 5.x firmware.
4.5 users are less and less as time goes on.
Finding a good used (or new) 4.x 3DS is difficult and expensive.

Finding a PAL N3DS with Sky3DS ok on it is easy.
They will lost more money with pirated New 3DS/linker than 4.x 3DS / linker.

Of course, 9.x support for GW might be a threat for Nintendo, but... it is a vaporware for now.

Nintendo is fighting more hardly against warez than Sony/MS...

 

[Maximilious]

Dec 12 23:40:09 <duo8>    neimod how easy it is to patch? do they have to redo the gamecard system or just patch some bugs?
Dec 12 23:40:20 <neimod>    very easy
Dec 12 23:40:31 <Jdbye>    i wouldn't say that, since ninjhax is already patched
Dec 12 23:40:31 <neimod>    like 1 line of code
Dec 12 23:41:04 <duo8>    oh so it's an exploit sky used??
Dec 12 23:41:11 <neimod>    no
Dec 12 23:41:25 <duo8>    a loophole?
Dec 12 23:41:35 <neimod>    nope
Dec 12 23:42:13 <duo8>    so it's an imperfection in the card emulation?
Dec 12 23:42:18 <DarkKaine>    of course it is
Dec 12 23:42:54 <neimod>    it doesn't behave like a genuine gamecard

Gotta love this guys lack of explination, one word answers and vagueness prooves all you're right I guess. I'm not saying what he says is or isn't true, but just being more critical of his responses.

 

[OuahOuah]

In another way, neimod is not a real noob in 3DS things

 

[gamesquest1]

I don't agree about Nintendo not bothering about Sky3DS.
They sued french physical stores about R4, and won.

They tried to block DS linker from beginning 'til 6.x firm. and then after fought about Gateway and Ninjhax.
Ninjhax even doesn't launch ROM but they "bother" to block it.

And not Sky3DS ?

That's strange enough.

And GW is blocked from 5.x firmware.
4.5 users are less and less as time goes on.
Finding a good used (or new) 4.x 3DS is difficult and expensive.

Finding a PAL N3DS with Sky3DS ok on it is easy.
They will lost more money with pirated New 3DS/linker than 4.x 3DS / linker.

Of course, 9.x support for GW might be a threat for Nintendo, but... it is a vaporware for now.

Nintendo is fighting more hardly against warez than Sony/MS...

its one of them, they had ssspwn to deal with too, now ssspwn you block and move on, with sky3ds, i imagine they will probably need to vet the update to make 100% sure its not going to effect legit cards in any way, so something that could potentially effect peoples abilities to play legit games would need to be done more carefully than "patch exploit, release update".....but im expecting nintendo will probably be back with another update soon to tighten up the card authentication checks

 

[garbanzox]

It's amazing how quickly the internet spawns experts. So many experts...

 

[gamesquest1]

It's amazing how quickly the internet spawns experts. So many experts...

we even have experts on judging experts apparently

 

[Kylecito]

It's amazing how quickly the internet spawns experts. So many experts...

He's renowned as a knowledgeable person here. Are you new?
Do you go to the doctor and say MAN I DONT BELIEVE YOU, ARE YOU REALLY AN EXPERT? YOUR DIPLOMA MIGHT BE FORGED

 

[Thirty3Three]

People can stretch it as far as they want, but the answer is NO.

 

[tony_2018]

Gotta love this guys lack of explination, one word answers and vagueness prooves all you're right I guess. I'm not saying what he says is or isn't true, but just being more critical of his responses.

You gotta learn to decode shit like that. I love the IRC days.....

 

[Arithmatics]

its one of them, they had ssspwn to deal with too, now ssspwn you block and move on, with sky3ds, i imagine they will probably need to vet the update to make 100% sure its not going to effect legit cards in any way, so something that could potentially effect peoples abilities to play legit games would need to be done more carefully than "patch exploit, release update".....but im expecting nintendo will probably be back with another update soon to tighten up the card authentication checks

Speculated to be blocked on a major 3DSOS release 10.x

 

[tony_2018]

He's renowned as a knowledgeable person here. Are you new?
Do you go to the doctor and say MAN I DONT BELIEVE YOU, ARE YOU REALLY AN EXPERT? YOUR DIPLOMA MIGHT BE FORGED

With the shit storm that happen in Dallas,Tx and Ebola....I think its bout that time we start questioning all Degrees. I even heard in China they were cheating on the pharmacy certification exam, people got fined, had to retake and if they failed they were screwed for lyfe.

 

[gamesquest1]

With the shit storm that happen in Dallas,Tx and Ebola....I think its bout that time we start questioning all Degrees. I even heard in China they were cheating on the pharmacy certification exam, people got fined, had to retake and if they failed they were screwed for lyfe.

yeah, but lets be honest, someone who many regard as one of the top 3DS scene devs makes a statement....i would go with that, its not just some random gbatemper like you or me spouting speculation...when it comes from the dev camp its as good as confirmed, and really they dont really have to prove anything to any of us......people can just sit there saying "lalalalalalala ill believe it when i see it lalala" as much as they like.....but ill trust them on it , its not like it effects me anyway i wouldn't buy a sky3ds regardless, but i dont think just random people should be going around saying "ITS INVINCIBLE, GO BUY IT NOW IT CAN NEVER BE BLOCKED*"

"*unless we see it blocked in the future"

 

[tony_2018]

yeah, but lets be honest, someone who many regard as one of the top 3DS scene devs makes a statement....i would go with that, its not just some random gbatemper like you or me spouting speculation...when it comes from the dev camp its as good as confirmed, and really they dont really have to prove anything to any of us......people can just sit there saying "lalalalalalala ill believe it when i see it lalala" as much as they like.....but ill trust them on it , its not like it effects me anyway i wouldn't buy a sky3ds regardless, but i dont think just random people should be going around saying "ITS INVINCIBLE, GO BUY IT NOW IT CAN NEVER BE BLOCKED*"

"*unless we see it blocked in the future"

It can be blocked in the future, and I can probably see why Nintendo is hesitating. To make sure they don't render there users 3ds useless. They have to plan this out and make sure that whatever loopholes they find they patch it but at the same time not effect there users. Damn people start using some thinking hats instead of spurring up more speculation....

 

[Lucifer666]

all right I keep seeing people making this mistake:

just because Sky3DS is detectable that's doesn't mean it's exploit-based or not a 1:1 replica

it is both. and it's pretty clear that it isn't exploit-based based on the fact that it works from the get-go with no setup, has no GUI, and the game swap happens in the actual cart instead of the system

 

[tony_2018]

all right I keep seeing people making this mistake:

just because Sky3DS is detectable that's doesn't mean it's exploit-based or not a 1:1 replica

it is both. and it's pretty clear that it isn't exploit-based based on the fact that it works from the get-go with no setup, has no GUI, and the game swap happens in the actual cart instead of the system

I hear you on that....

 

[gamesquest1]

all right I keep seeing people making this mistake:

just because Sky3DS is detectable that's doesn't mean it's exploit-based or not a 1:1 replica

it is both. and it's pretty clear that it isn't exploit-based based on the fact that it works from the get-go with no setup, has no GUI, and the game swap happens in the actual cart instead of the system

yeah its kinda like fake money rather than say hacking a cash machine, it tries to pass itself off as legit.....but as we all know replica's/emulation is never 100% perfect, so "experts" have looked into it and said "yeah its not perfect and is block-able" (which was to be expected), so now its just a matter of nintendo examining it, finding all the inconsistencies, and then their next FW will know exactly where to look to find out the fake vs the real....just because nintendo didn't do this like 2 hours after sky3ds was released doesn't mean they can't it just means they didn't.......truth is they probably want to do more than just block, they probably aim to make sure there is no future revisions to re-enable it with slightly improved to bypass the block they put in place

 

[tony_2018]

yeah its kinda like fake money rather than say hacking a cash machine, it tries to pass itself off as legit.....but as we all know replica's/emulation is never 100% perfect, so "experts" have looked into it and said "yeah its not perfect and is block-able" (which was to be expected), so now its just a matter of nintendo examining it, finding all the inconsistencies, and then their next FW will know exactly where to look to find out the fake vs the real....just because nintendo didn't do this like 2 hours after sky3ds was released doesn't mean they can't it just means they didn't.......truth is they probably want to do more than just block, they probably aim to make sure there is no future revisions to re-enable it with slightly improved to bypass the block they put in place

Not really....it just means they had to take proper action, again, to not render 3ds owners useless. R/D....every console company has it.

 

[gamesquest1]

Not really....it just means they had to take proper action, again, to not render 3ds owners useless. R/D....every console company has it.

yeah i said that in an earlier post

its one of them, they had ssspwn to deal with too, now ssspwn you block and move on, with sky3ds, i imagine they will probably need to vet the update to make 100% sure its not going to effect legit cards in any way, so something that could potentially effect peoples abilities to play legit games would need to be done more carefully than "patch exploit, release update".....but im expecting nintendo will probably be back with another update soon to tighten up the card authentication checks

...im just saying not only do they need to ensure its safe, they will also most likely want to lock it down for good rather than just quickly throw an easily bypass-able "fix" into the FW....i.e inb4 sky3ds green button edition

 

[tony_2018]

yeah i said that in an earlier post

...im just saying not only do they need to ensure its safe, they will also most likely want to lock it down for good rather than just quickly throw an easily bypass-able "fix" into the FW....i.e inb4 sky3ds green button edition

Got it.